EA flop Immortals of Aveum reportedly cost around $125 million, former dev says "a AAA single-player shooter in today's market was a truly awful idea"

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• chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Big “no one understands my art” vibes coming off that dev. You made a mediocre game for an outrageous amount and released it in one of the heaviest gaming release years in recent memory. Sorry, this year a new IP with a 74% on metacritic doesn’t cut it. They say EA dropped 40mil on the advertising for it, but this is litterally the first I’ve heard about it, and frankly I’m the target audience for this game. I bet this shit was shoved down the throats of Fortnight and Valorant players via tiktok.

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  • Jaysyn@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I had never heard of it either until this post.

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    • snooggums@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is the first time for me as well, and it sounds likely to be the last.

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  • tomi000@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Same. Those 40mil probably went into someones pocket, not surprising noone is playing the game

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    • M137@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No one is playing it because it’s very “meh”, but it has absolutely been widely advertised and also talked about a lot (for being not so good).

      I really doubt any of you who replied here saying you haven’t heard about it ever interact with gaming journalism and community. It has been just as visible as most other AAA games.

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  • loobkoob@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I heard about it when Skill Up, whose YouTube channel I have notifications turned on for, posted his review of it. Before that, I'd seen absolutely nothing about it, and I heard very little about it after that, too. I was shocked to find out it was an EA game - partly because it didn't look (visually) polished enough to be an EA game, and partly because of the complete lack of marketing I'd seen for a major publisher game.

    Finding out it was an expensive flop and not just a smaller AA game they decided to put out on the side is a surprise, too.

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  • M137@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m not really the target audience and I’ve come across it what must be hundreds of times. It has been talked about a lot on anything gaming. Most if the big gaming journalism (good and bad) websites, youtube channels etc has made articles and videos about it.

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• technomad@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Trying to act like it flopped because it’s single player… What a joke.

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  • FMT99@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think BG3 showed conclusively that no one will ever play single player games no matter how great they are. /s

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    • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      but that was like 6 whole months ago. the market is totally different now. /s

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  • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I get what you’re saying but FPS specifically are mostly played competitively, so a single player game in THAT specific genre in 2023 sounds like a very bad idea.

    Every other genre than FPS needs more games where you’re allowed to only play single player and use tons of mods if you want to without risking being locked out of playing, though.

    Fallout New Vegas, Skyrim, The Outer Worlds and the older Bioware games are where it’s at for my favorite genre, to name a few examples.

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    • vexikron@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yep, nobody enjoyed playing through Half Life 1/2, or FEAR or Deus Ex, or the early Medal of Honor or Call of Duty campaigns, or the Doom series or Battlefield Bad Company or the Wolfenstein Series.

      Just because most modern popular FPSs are basically cartoony tf2/overwatch clones/derivatives and there are a lot if highly competitive multiplayer FPSs doesnt mean theres no market for a single player FPS.

      It means that making a single player FPS game these days is apparently too hard modern game devs to figure out how to do.

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    • flamingarms@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m not sure that’s really true that you’re saying about single player FPS games being mostly competitive or that it’s a bad idea. See: Doom, Metro, Ghostwire, Dying Light, System Shock, people seem stoked for Space Marine, etc.

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• rustydrd@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The development cost was around $85 million, and I think EA kicked in $40 million for marketing and distribution.

  Apparently, $40 million doesn’t buy you much in today’s market, because I’ve literally never heard of this game until now.

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  • p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Probably spent it all on cable TV ads, where their audience ain’t at.

    Or just blow and hookers.

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    • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “I’m telling you, the cocaine and hooker market is ripe for a AAA single player FPS game.”

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  • Decoy321@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It was actually quite fun! I rented it off Gamefly and enjoyed it for about 30-40 hours. It’s basically an action-adventure shooter like Metroid. It’s a decent game, not groundbreaking, but definitely doesn’t deserve the hate people give it.

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    • guacupado@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      but definitely doesn’t deserve the hate people give it.

      I don’t think it’s getting hate. I think it’s getting indifference because no one knows what it is.

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    • joe_cool@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It has Denuvo, and runs like crap even on $1500 hardware.

      I don’t know what kind of sales they expected when they don’t test it on lower spec PCs.

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  • Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I saw one YouTuber that I follow play it. It looked kinda interesting from his video, but he also has the same criticisms.

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• twoface_99@feddit.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The issue is not the genre “single player (shooter)” itself, but that these big companies just churn out the same generic bullshit and then act surprised when no-one plays it.

  AAA studios just don’t have the balls anymore to take a risk and develop something unique. And this is their downfall.

  Titanfall 2, Metro Exodus, Ghostwire Tokyo, Doom (to name a few) are all excellent first person shooters. All of them have something unique about them that makes them worthwhile.

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  • Hyperreality@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Goes to show that making a good game is still more art than science.

    Hell, make a broken or buggy game, if it has the special something it'll still likely become a classic.

    Eg. Fallout New Vegas or Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines.

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  • Damage@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Titanfall 2

    Titanfall 2 had one of the most acclaimed single-player campaigns, with it being only a few hours long and mostly a showcase to get people on multiplayer, and it was still enough.

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    • vexikron@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Quite seriously I am actually looking to attempt to solo indie dev a sort of fps/tactics/management hybrid FPS that would at least start out as single player, and titanfall 2’s is something I am drawing inspiration from.

      My basic idea is: What if you had the squad management and mission planning depth of basically Xenonauts, but you actually played out the missions in first person, with combat systems and load outs and player (and enemy) capabilities that resembled titanfall2’s mix of athletecism and gunplay?

      Im in very early stages, but yeah basically titanfall2/xenonauts hybrid with (this is likely the hard part) procedurally generated, 3d levels, strung together with a kind of narrative generation engine, something sort of like rimworld’s system that simulates world conditions and then generates certain events based off of them, but also responds to certain specific things you do or do not do in mission, or what missions you choose to embark on over others.

      Probably Im gonna focus on core gameplay systems and not really worry about graphics or assets at all until I can get any of this to an actual working concept level.

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  • yamanii@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Titanfall 2 also bombed, even a good game can flop if your marketing sucks or if you release it next to other massive hits.

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• cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I would eat up a single player story driven fps no problem.

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  • Archelon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Doom (2016) and Wolfenstein TNO both proved that AAA single player story-driven fps can be hugely successful.

    They just need to, y’know, not be shit.

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    • Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Doom eternal was amazing.

      I never even heard of this, but I wouldn’t buy it anyways because EA.

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    • Paradachshund@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      These studios can’t quite wrap their heads around that last part.

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    • MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thanks!

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  • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    exactly. maybe you guys just made a shitty game and can’t accept that.

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  • Fish@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cyberpunk 2077 exists, though it may not be the best example.

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    • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I enjoyed that one

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    • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s excellent. Seriously a great RPG after 2.0.

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  • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I guess Cyberpunk was a truly awful idea. Who knew?

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  • n3m37h@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ma just go back and play through Mass Effect series again

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• TIMMAY@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I play a lot of games but Ive never heard of this game before this post

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  • rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Nobody bought our game we didn’t market. Guess we’ll stop making an entire genre of games.”

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    • Damage@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I mean, it’s my favorite genre, so if EA can stay the fuck away from it, that’s not a bad outcome

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    • JJROKCZ@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They claim to have spent 40 million usd marketing it, I saw some people on twitch playing it when it first came out but it looked meh and was priced way too high so I didn’t watch much

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    • DrQuint@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They did market it. A lot.

      It’s just that the game’s trailers were wildly forgettable.

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    • Salix@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      From the article:

      “At a high level, Immortals was massively overscoped for a studio’s debut project,” the former employee said. "The development cost was around $85 million, and I think EA kicked in $40 million for marketing and distribution…

      They must have done extremely bad marketing because I’ve never heard of this game

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    • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There are many genres EA needs to stop making, but I doubt they’ll take the right lesson from this

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  • dan1101@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Same. This seems to be getting more common with various media and products. Too many choices which is a good thing for consumers but not good for publishers.

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• FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I think EA makes games like this to reinforce THEIR notion that single player games are dead so they can use that as leverage to make more “games as a service”. If they made things people actually wanted to play, they’d find that single player (yes even shooter) games are still just as popular as they ever were and poorly thought out, poorly executed, and poorly marketed games still suck.

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  • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Case in point. Baldurs gate 3.

    Single player (with optional co op multiplayer) but massively successful.

    Not to beat a dead horse. Its just the first example that came to mind.

    A huge amount of very successful indie games are single-player and even other AAA games.

    They talk about the genre being dead but they forget that most games dont charge you to play them anymore. They make money through in game purchases selling cosmetics and battle pasees.

    These game genres could be described as dead by the same criteria if they cost actual money.

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    • guacupado@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Its just the first example that came to mind.

      Uh, in this case it’s a single-player, shooter, from a brand new IP. I’m probably just commenting just to argue but I don’t think Baldur’s Gate 3 is a good comparison at all.

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  • dumpsterlid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The thing that we all keep missing about this is even though the reason EA sucks is because of late stage capitalism hollowing out everything for profit, doesn’t actually mean the choices the idiots with MBAs from Harvard or whatever running the company are actually making intelligent choices about profit.

    The system of capitalism actually perpetuates itself better when things periodically catastrophically fail since it keeps worker power from organizing, wipes out competitors that aren’t also massive corporations that can be easily colluded with, and provides a perfect backdrop for the rich to say “sorrrrrry it all broke again, guess we are the only ones that can fix it, so we will maybe take this chance to buy up more of the economy :) “.

    So yes in a very real way I think EA functions as much to devalue the labor of game developers, keep competition of smaller game development studios categorically unable to create products like EA, and serve as a vessel to ritualistically dissect smaller game companies so that companies like EA have an infinite, desperate workforce and consumers have no better choice for video games.

    That is the thing about ideologies, whether they have any connection to reality or not is actually not very important at all.

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    • space@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s why AAA+ is failing and indie games are getting better than ever. It’s insane how good the tools and engines have gotten. Making games had become much more accessible than ever.

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    • ampersandrew@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      When a company like this catastrophically fails and Baldur's Gate 3 or Palworld do gangbusters, that signals to others who also want to make money what they should be making in order to make money. Where the money does go, like a Larian or a Pocket Pair, now has profit to spend on growing their studios and making more of what actually works. They end up hiring the talent that was let go. Not all of them; this is less efficient than if the first studio that imploded had instead made something that the market actually wanted, but this is not a situation so dire that the industry will feel it for decades like you say. New studios form all the time from mismanaged large companies that lay people off after making bad bets.

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  • space@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No, AAA+ blockbuster games are dead. The 150 million budget is insane. Spending that much on a game, you end up having to minimize the risks and having to cater to the widest audience possible.

    If you split that budget into maybe 2 larger and a few smaller games, you don’t put all your eggs in the same basket. You can take more risk, experiment with new mechanics and ideas. You can target different types of players. You can give a chance to smaller, lesser known writers who might have potential.

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  • HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Part of it is that modern games are getting too expensive to make, especially with all the assets to the fidelity given by current technology.

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    • c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I doubt it, this kind of logic is the same as “medical costs are insane because modern medical tech is expensive.”

      It completely ignores the entire economy all functioning under advanced technology to create and produce advanced goods more cheaply with the technology that costs money. It’s also mismanagement in the same way the movie and TV industry has seen, they don’t want to hire writers cause they don’t want to pay them, so instead they just spend hundreds of millions on reshoots because having a writer being paid 60k on staff 24/7 was too costly apparently and some suit got a promotion for “saving” that money.

      Someone made a better version of “the day before” with a few grand in purchased assets and a couple months using UE5. If you were creating your own resources instead of buying them and you had an actual vision then you absolutely can make a game for less than hundreds of millions that will return that money back to you. How much did pal world take in? How much is helldivers 2 currently making? What were their production costs?

      Just because some inept studio run by corporate bean counters can only churn out tech demos for millions of bucks doesn’t mean that’s the actual standard for cost and production of gaming.

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    • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s only expensive to make if studios decide to make them incredibly expensive. There are plenty of high quality indie games made by a single person.

      The problem here is they went all in on “THE BEST GRAPHICS EVAR!!!” And it flopped because of the lack of story and gameplay. The lesson here is to not make it incredibly expensive to develop by focusing all efforts on graphics, and instead focus on gameplay and story and people will tolerate much less flashy visuals.

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    • guacupado@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Games are getting too expensive to make because they’re adding extra shit that no one cares about, not because of the cost it takes to make a decent game.

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• TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The what of what now?

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  • EdibleFriend@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Literally the first I’ve heard about it as well. Maybe should have tossed a bit of that money at the marketing department.

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    • echo64@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They did, 40million of the budget went to marketing

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    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Disagree. The fact that I’m only hearing about it now that it’s flopped is a good thing because I might have given it attention before. Well, probably not because it’s EA.

      I just hope that companies that aren’t EA don’t take what they say about single player games at face value. EA games probably need friend group hype to succeed at this point. Or maybe that’s just wishful thinking that there are many others like me who want to avoid anything from that company and thus would only play when pressured by friends.

      But if EA does fail, there likely will be a period where they try to talk about it like experts and will just say, “oh, gamers must not like x genre anymore”, when gamers really just don’t like overproduced garbage games that are clearly tuned to sell MTX rather than be fun.

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• Toneswirly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Peak player count was less than 800 players on steam… Flop is an understatement.

  Those 100 workers EA laid off dont deserve to be thrown in the trash; why dont the execs take a nice paycut instead?

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  • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think companies that make profits should not be allowed to lay off people. You‘re welcome.

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• Chainweasel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Single player shooter’s aren’t bad or even unpopular right now. But I think people are beginning to realize that anything that has EA’s name attached to it is trash and just avoid it on principal.

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  • Badeendje@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Jup, even new iterations of their older IP seem to be bevolking instead of taking that which was fun and expanding on it.

    Maybe they should use all these behaviour experts to investigate why people keep playing games instead of figuring out how to maximally predate on your customer base.

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  • vexikron@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Everyone in the single player fps demo is replaying the old good games, or seeking out like custom doom wads or the occasional actually good indie fps single player game, having at this point long given up on large studios being able to make a compelling single player fps.

    Sure, a lot of us enjoy lots of other kinds of games too, but good lord is there an unscratchable itch for a new, compelling FPS campaign thats actually interesting and challenging.

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    • ampersandrew@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It's boomer shooters or nothing in that space right now. We're starving out here. On my radar in the coming year or two are Mouse, Core Decay, and Agent 64, but no one knows what kind of quality we'll get out of those. Also, is it a crime to just throw in some competitive multiplayer that's meant to be played a handful of times with friends instead of being the next e-sport?

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• stopthatgirl7@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Orrrr it was a mid game with almost no marketing.

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  • peak_dunning_krueger@feddit.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “a AAA single-player shooter in today’s market was a truly awful idea”

    store.steampowered.com/app/…/Immortals_of_Aveum/

    1.1k reviews 75% positive

    store.steampowered.com/app/379720/DOOM/ (2016)

    125k reviews 95%

    Git gud, EA, and make an actually competing product.

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    • TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah exactly, my first thought was “Doom is still in the public discourse.”

      Not to mention, oh what’s that game that broke earnings numbers on steam, oh yeah, Cyberpunk 2077? Rough launch aside, the game literally printed money, and is a great RPG and a great FPS.

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• _sideffect@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Of course, Doom doesn’t exist right

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  • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, but you see… Doom was a rare unicorn. It came with refreshing ideas, looked visually attractive, played good, and was fun.

    That’s a tall ask from EA.

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    • beefcat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It was also an established IP with name recognition.

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• SteefLem@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Is this a single player shooter? I thought it was multi player? And theres nothing wrong with single player shooters “in this age” look at jedi fallen order great game and singlr player. But a shit game is a shit game single or multi.

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  • Hyperreality@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It's worse than shit, it's mediocre.

    At least people talk about shit games, which means some people buy a copy just because they're curious.

    Mediocre stuff? No one's interested.

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• Aielman15@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’ll go counter-current here and say that it was a fun game. IGN review sells it really well, and I had fun while playing it. I’d say the main problem of the game was releasing in a year already full of big-name releases, and a marketing campaign that was too quiet - I’m honestly surprised it cost $40 million, because I only heard of the game by pure chance.

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  • Carighan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah I will say, it’s painfully generic and I hate the MCU-style humor, but it’s not a bad game per se. It’s just in no way shape or form triple-A, except for looking rather snazzy.

    The worst offense to me though is how there’s no magic in the game. Just guns with weird graphics. They managed to not make the magic feel like, well, magic. That’s the big flaw of it to me. Everything else is minor by comparison. Still, not a bad game, just not a good one either. At least for me.

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    • TheLowestStone@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just FYI, the term triple-A doesn’t refer directly to the quality of the game. It simply means it was made by a larger, well-established company.

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• RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “a AAA single-player shooter in today’s market was a truly awful idea”

  Fucking what? Why? What in the actual fuck?

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• Defaced@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I tried the demo, it has a lot of problems outside of it being a AAA single player shooter. The “magic” system is just reskinned guns, the story is nonsensical at times, and the movement is stiff and slow. It’s like they never play tested the game and just said it was done one day. That’s not even mentioning the almost ten minute walk around the city at the beginning doing nothing but following what I will assume is a non critical character to the plot.

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• reverendsteveii@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I play a lot of single player shooters. One thing they all have in common is that I know they exist, which I’m thinking could potentially be part of the problem with this one.

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• Talaraine@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Someone stole $40 million of EA's money and didn't advertise another horrible cashgrab?

  "I'm not even mad, I'm.. impressed!"

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• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Because EA games is weak. It’s all retreads of ancient franchises or bloated games with no risks taken.

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• mrfriki@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m very into shooters and this was a hard pass because it looked like a generic and boring Call of Duty re-skin and I’m not into that game.

  Maybe the problem is not the current AAA or shooters landscape. Maybe it is more about the quality and the fun your games are.

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• Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I would love an AAA single player shooter. If it is done well and fun. So no chance EA could do it

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• JCreazy@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is the first time I’ve ever even heard of it.

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• Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  And I mean, that’s maybe where the problems lie. This game is all jank and all generics, with no specific thing to present except “OMG LOOK AT OUR GRAPHICS!!!”.

  This is exactly what AAA gaming is. Some guys in suits dictate projects to make money. There’s no passion behind them. They can’t do anything unique or interesting because it may not make money. They just make safe games, and they’re generic and boring as hell.

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• steeznson@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This game was the most AA shit I’ve ever seen. In the PS2 days it would have got a 7.5 average from most reviewers then it would have had a not-insignificant number of people pick it up.

  They are delusional for thinking a UE5 asset flip is a AAA game.

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• KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Not at that price point, of course. Ultrakill has a sub 2 million USD budget, its one of the most critically praised games on Steam, and its not even finished yet.

  Live service games are starting to turn into a very expensive scam and if you can’t make a good single player game, you need to cut costs somewhere. AAA production budgets are just too huge and the product isn’t good.

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• Mango@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If you don’t have a vision, don’t try to turn money into more money by making a game. Everyone loses. Dumping money on assets doesn’t make your trope copy/paste any better than the other million cheap Chinese clones on an app store.

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• Jaysyn@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Or maybe EA is just a garbage corporation that aren't actually good at making video games?

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• HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Maybe if you market it at all so that I’ve actually fucking heard of it that’ll help?

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• DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  A GENERIC AAA visually looking single player shooter was a bad idea.

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• elgordio@kbin.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Most notable thing about this game was it was one of the first to launch with FSR3 frame generation. Other than that I think I’d have completely forgotten about it.

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