'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

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• NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I accepted and just didn’t buy it to begin with.

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  • Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    After the borderlands 3 trainwreck it seems weird that people are apparently buying BL4

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    • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      It’s hard to consider an 81 on OpenCritic to be a trainwreck. People tend to buy games that review well, especially when it’s a co-op shooter with basically no competition.

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    • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨34⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      From what I hear from people actually able to play the game, it’s better than 3.

      Something like:

      2 > 4 > 1 > 3 > Pre-Sequel

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Was going to say… Who is out there buying games way outside their machines’ specs? Seems pretty straightforward.

    I do get a little annoyed at the folks angry at BL4 using a higher end engine. Like, it does look a lot better than previous iterations. That engine upgrade wasn’t for nothing.

    There are a ton of looter shooters floating around that aren’t using the Unreal 5 engine. Just play one of those instead.

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    • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This game does into the twenties on a freaking 4070 at 1440 on high settings and doesn’t even get 60 at medium settings

      Now let’s take a look at the “recommended specs” Randy put out there

      NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 / AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT / Intel Arc B580

      Sorry but when I’m the world is that even remotely acceptable that you consider last Gen was outside machine specs when the developers said sure two generations ago is perfectly fine, which btw, holy crap it’s not.

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    • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨55⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      There’s a difference between a game being way outside of your specs because it’s graphically very advanced and your hardware is old, and a game just being unoptimized slop that expects its users to deal with by throwing higher specs at a fixable problem.

      I have a brand new 5070ti that can play all kinds of UE5 games with much better graphics than BL4 at 4k resolution with ray tracing at a decent frame rate without relying on frame gen. And I’m in the top few percentiles here.

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• rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world ⁨37⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  I have come to accept that this is a PR campaign to plaster the name everywhere all over social media and let it worm its way into currently pissed off gamers’ heads for a few months down the line when they’ve calmed down and inevitably buy the fucking thing.

  Pitchford is a slimeball. Rarely has a man who is allegedly not an insurance or used-car salesman given off such nakedly scummy vibes.

  We need to stop giving free publicity to this little marketing man, and to this poorly optimised, expensive game.

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• MudMan@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  I swear I have no idea why they let him talk. He doesn't even own the company, surely someone at Take 2 could just go... you know... shush.

  I don't even think the BL4 thing is that bad, on the face of it. There is really no need to make it worse.

  "We have been made aware of some performance issues in certain systems in our new release, we'll be looking into performance improvements in future patches". It's not that hard. At this point just copy/paste whatever the other thousand UE5 games said, go fix the wonky precompilation boot step and stop digging a hole.

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• cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Out of the loop, is it a AAA game drama?

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  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Apparently the graphics are basically the same as 3, but performance is dog shit on even the best hardware and crashes are unavoidable.

    When people complained, he said they need to use AI fake frame and upscale from 720. Which still wasn’t good performance.

    It might get fixed later in updates. But this guy is handling so badly he might legitimately be mentally unwell. It’s at the point it’s weird he still has a job

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  • PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, so it’s just the usual

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  • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Just your typical Randy drama you get at every BL release.

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    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      At least he didn’t punch anyone this time.

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  • SoupBrick@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    BL4 is running horribly, even on higher end PCs. I have a 4090 and a decent processor, but only getting 80FPS max with a good few settings on low or off and AI frame gen on (I would rather not, but performance is just that bad).

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    • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Holy shit you get 80 fps with frame gen on with a 4090? What resolution?

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• Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Say it with me now: “Fuck Randy Pitchford”

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The engine’s not the problem. Personally, I have only played a single game on UE5 that had shit performance on mh aging PC, and it’s an early access, independently made, survival crafting game. It was never going to perform well or even be finished.

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• ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Is this not the third tabloid style headline here about essentially the same thing?

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  • CidVicious@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Well it shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone, but Randy Pitchford is really good at providing ammo for these types of headlines. Guy needs to learn to keep his mouth shut sometimes.

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  • tidderuuf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s 100% an astroturfing campaign. Doesn’t matter if it looks good or bad, it’s still getting awareness out there about the game which generates clicks and probably makes more money than the game itself.

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    • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That would be hard to believe, because the game already conservatively made tens of millions of dollars in a few days.

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• BroBot9000@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Oh look the piece of shit opens its mouth again.

  We understand you stumbled dick first into your position of power. Now please shut the fuck up, you somehow sentient sludgeball.

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• Linktank@lemmy.today ⁨52⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  You got it!

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• Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  All this stuff sounds like Randy Pitchford building out his personal brand.

  I wish anything involving Pitchford was not reported on (at all).

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• jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  How is it on console though? Better on PS5 or Xbox?

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  • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    insider-gaming.com/borderlands-4-console-performa…

    Take from that what you will.

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    • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      DF is who I’m waiting on, but from what I’m hearing, they didn’t send reviewer codes so it’s all delayed and that’s never a good sign.

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  • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I’ve seen multiple people report they have to reboot after an hour or two or play because it has memory leak issues.

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