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'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

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Submitted ⁨⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.ign.com/articles/my-advice-to-users-is-to-accept-reality-and-tune-or-to-not-play-randy-pitchford-is-at-the-get-a-refund-from-steam-stage-of-the-borderlands-4-pc-performance-backlash

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  • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How is it on console though? Better on PS5 or Xbox?

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    • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ve seen multiple people report they have to reboot after an hour or two or play because it has memory leak issues.

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    • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      insider-gaming.com/borderlands-4-console-performa…

      Take from that what you will.

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      • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        DF is who I’m waiting on, but from what I’m hearing, they didn’t send reviewer codes so it’s all delayed and that’s never a good sign.

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  • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is this not the third tabloid style headline here about essentially the same thing?

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    • CidVicious@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well it shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone, but Randy Pitchford is really good at providing ammo for these types of headlines. Guy needs to learn to keep his mouth shut sometimes.

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    • tidderuuf@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s 100% an astroturfing campaign. Doesn’t matter if it looks good or bad, it’s still getting awareness out there about the game which generates clicks and probably makes more money than the game itself.

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That would have to be the weirdest advertising strategy in the history of all advertising.

        My our game, it’s really shit

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      • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That would be hard to believe, because the game already conservatively made tens of millions of dollars in a few days.

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  • NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I accepted and just didn’t buy it to begin with.

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    • Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      After the borderlands 3 trainwreck it seems weird that people are apparently buying BL4

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      • CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I honestly don’t know what this “trainwreck” talk is. BL3 was passable. I didn’t like the antagonists, but the game played fine if purples dropped way too much and the new guns weren’t great. People make it seem like it was the Worst Game Ever and I don’t get it. The pre-sequel was hot garbage, but 3 was fine.

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      • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        From what I hear from people actually able to play the game, it’s better than 3.

        Something like:

        2 > 4 > 1 > 3 > Pre-Sequel

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      • ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s hard to consider an 81 on OpenCritic to be a trainwreck. People tend to buy games that review well, especially when it’s a co-op shooter with basically no competition.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Was going to say… Who is out there buying games way outside their machines’ specs? Seems pretty straightforward.

      I do get a little annoyed at the folks angry at BL4 using a higher end engine. Like, it does look a lot better than previous iterations. That engine upgrade wasn’t for nothing.

      There are a ton of looter shooters floating around that aren’t using the Unreal 5 engine. Just play one of those instead.

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      • Killer@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        UE5 can run fine on older hardware, but most devs either aren’t given the time to properly optimize or don’t give a fuck about it and would rather rely on upscaling and frame gen tech.

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      • CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I have a 3090 in a 7800x3d box with 64 gb ram and I had to drop from 7680x2160 to 3840x1080 to get decent framerates. I get better performance in Star Citizen. After a few CTD’s I just went ahead and got a refund.

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      • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There’s a difference between a game being way outside of your specs because it’s graphically very advanced and your hardware is old, and a game just being unoptimized slop that expects its users to deal with by throwing higher specs at a fixable problem.

        I have a brand new 5070ti that can play all kinds of UE5 games with much better graphics than BL4 at 4k resolution with ray tracing at a decent frame rate without relying on frame gen. And I’m in the top few percentiles here.

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      • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This game does into the twenties on a freaking 4070 at 1440 on high settings and doesn’t even get 60 at medium settings

        Now let’s take a look at the “recommended specs” Randy put out there

        NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 / AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT / Intel Arc B580

        Sorry but when I’m the world is that even remotely acceptable that you consider last Gen was outside machine specs when the developers said sure two generations ago is perfectly fine, which btw, holy crap it’s not.

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