todd, you’ve done it again
If you haven’t already bought a switch 2, just get a Steam Deck if you want another handheld.
Valve also won’t remotely brick your entire device if they think you got an unlicensed cartridge.
Skyrim on Switch 2 ships with severe input lag and a huge 53GB file size despite being capped at 30FPS
Submitted 4 days ago by simple@piefed.social to games@lemmy.world
https://spilled.gg/skyrim-switch-input-lag-filesize/
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Broadfern@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
In fact, you can emulate every other console with pirated ROMs without anyone batting an eye
CaptainBasculin@lemmy.bascul.in 3 days ago
Bethesda, you have ported this game to fucking PS3, how do you fuck it up this badly?
stringere@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Lots of Switch 2 ports have had problemd. My MIL had to stop playing Tales From the Shire because it kept wiping her progress.
ceenote@lemmy.world 4 days ago
… How do you fuck this up?
winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
Sell product based on IP and brand name while delivering the bare minimum of product. Nintendo’s MO for 10+ years now
CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 4 days ago
[deleted]popcar2@piefed.ca 4 days ago
How is this Nintendo’s fault lol
The Switch 2 could absolutely handle Skyrim at 60fps if not 120, it’s not their fault Bethesda half-assed the port.
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
yes but have you considered that:
nintendo bad 😡
dimjim@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
And they’re STILL charging $60 bucks for this fuckin game? Todd it’s been over a decade bro
ameancow@lemmy.world 3 days ago
The year is 2064. The world outside is fire and riots.
A new life is brought into the world, the hospital lights flicker. The doctor, dirty and worn out, pushes the new parents a form on a battered clipboard.
“Congratulations to you both, now please sign this release to bring your baby home, but not before you designate which formats of Skyrim your child will inherit, please understand this is not optional, and we no longer take Bitcoin to pay the mandatory $60 Skyrim Fee, so please use cash, credit or ration cards to pay.”
EarMaster@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Why is everyone bashing Nintendo for this? I mean I get it that Nintendo is not to be liked, but this is clearly Bethesda’s fault. They did a fast and cheap port and failed hard with it.
mycodesucks@lemmy.world 4 days ago
So, par for the course for Bethesda then?
Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 days ago
They really do have a habit of just barely making it work on every platform, no matter how powerful.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu 3 days ago
How much do you want to bet this is emulated
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
How can’t it run a 14 year old game?
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 days ago
Bethesda special ability. How’d they get a 14 year old game almost 60G
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Wasn’t that already a pretty normal size back then too for large games?
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
damn near 2026 and new releases are still shipping with a 30hz target lmao
untorquer@lemmy.world 3 days ago
The labor cost though, it’s at an all time lo… Wait no that’s gone up… What are they even doing?
Something like business metrics being measured in board salary $/frame-hour?
MeatsOfRage@lemmynsfw.com 2 days ago
The bigger issue is this game is 15 years old now. Modern hardware should crush this.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 4 days ago
You can install this game as a multiplayer RPG suite with cloth physics, frame generation, and a decade of fan content pushing that medieval engine to do things that shouldn’t even be possible.
But somebody out there still wants to buy it in potato.jpeg resolution and run it on a kid toy
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 days ago
multiplayer RPG suite
Are you talking about Skyrim Together? How’s MP work now?
I’ve been out of the modding scene forever, and last I heard there was no “massively” multiplayer and only a coop demo.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 4 days ago
Not “massive” at all. But it’s not a demo anymore. I haven’t looked under the hood in a while since back when it first came out but it used to just create NPC’s mirroring your other players actions. That was a long time ago though, I can’t imagine it working this well still using that method
BroBot9000@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Vibe coded port… sigh
dukemirage@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Let’s not push the myth here that over dependence on LLMs is the only source of bad code. In the past it’s almost always been management constraints, probably the case here, too.
flowers_galore2@lemmynsfw.com 4 days ago
It quickly is becoming the primary source for bad code though.
brsrklf@jlai.lu 3 days ago
It’s Bethesda we’re talking about. They can definitely reach that level of incompetence without AI being involved.
Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 3 days ago
If only there was another way to play Skyrim
stringere@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
_______ ships to Switch 2 with _____ issues seems t be pretty common.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 days ago
“It just works!”
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 4 days ago
I bet an open source emulator in pre-alpha stage would run Skyrim at 120fps on Switch 2 ez.
Goretantath@lemmy.world 4 days ago
It wouldn’t, the problems are on Bethesda’s side.
Rooty@lemmy.world 3 days ago
The original switch was for me a 300$ indie machine. I have no idea what niche is this console supposed to fill.
PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 3 days ago
The niche of “I have to play the latest Legend of Pokemario game and nothing else will do”
muhyb@programming.dev 3 days ago
Even Intel Iris Xe can play Skyrim (Special Edition) at ~45 FPS.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
severe input lag and a huge 53GB file size despite being capped at 30FPS
I’m not sure how being capped at 30 FPS should change any of those. Probably they went too ambitious with texture resolutions, etc. Which explains 53 GB AND the need to cap it at 30 FPS. And 30 FPS probably has MORE input lag than 60 FPS as most things only get polled every 33.333 ms instead of 16.666 (both repeating of course)
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Is skyrim the new doom?
Rooster326@programming.dev 3 days ago
Nobody is paying Todd to play Room on their Washing Machine
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
They are both the new crabs
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I do find it perplexing that other companies can also release a game like this, fix it, and then everyone basically forgets and treats the developers like buddies again (like CDPR did with Witcher and Cyberpunk, or Obsidian with KotOR2, or Hello Games with No Man’s Sky).
Bethesdas original release of Skyrim was exactly the same, and then they fixed it. Same.with Fallout 76, Elder Scrolls Online, etc. The difference is that it just seems like people really love to hate on Bethesda more than other studios when they don’t really do anything that different.
I mean, The Witcher 3 on Switch had a lot of bugs that “shouldn’t have been there” because the game was already in a good state on other platforms. But that isn’t how game development works because porting to a different console isn’t as simple as clicking one button, especially not for something like the Witcher that runs in a proprietary game engine. Shipping with bugs is bad, but Bethesda isn’t any better or worse than other beloved studios. They do seem to be publicly hated more than other studios, though.
gerryflap@feddit.nl 3 days ago
Yeah okay but Cyberpunk 2077 and No Man’s Sky were new games, not an ancient game that should easily run on a Switch 2 but somehow doesn’t. And even then it required an insane turnaround before people loved them again. Cyberpunk has undergone a crazy transformation since launch and it’s all for free (as should be expected when you release a dumpster fire).
This is not an easy thing, and not something you can keep doing constantly. Bethesda seems to be on a roll with releasing broken, overpriced, boring shit for a while now. And constantly milking Skyrim. There are plenty other games that I personally have played that aren’t there yet in this timeline either. Cities Skylines 2 just got a new developer and is still not that great, I don’t they’ll turn it around. Stalker 2 is on the right path (and I personally really liked it on launch and even more now), yet a lot of fans still seem pissed and the game is still properly janky. Pulling a Cyberpunk is the exception, not the rule
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Maybe theres confusing crossover?
I’m of the opinion that Starfield, in particular, is unreasonably tolerated even though (from what I played) it’s a dreadful, aged, boring game. I’m of the opinion that FO76 released in a particularly bad state, and that Todd behaved in a smiley “tech bro” kind of way over it. And will pound BGS all day over that.
On the other hand, yeah, I’m all for devs re releasing games. It gives them visibility! BGS does it so much it’s kind of a meme, but it’s not bad.
So, BGS deserves some skepticism. But not over Skyrim, really.
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 3 days ago
Lmao get fucked Nintendo
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
Zoabrown@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Feels like a straight
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Wasn’t this already on the first Switch? How did you fuck this up? It was already done.
Honestly, I’m kinda over the Switch 2 at this point. All of the games that have come out for it look empty and soulless, and there hasn’t been anything to make me truly want to spend $500 on another piece of kit. They’ve had long enough to put out some quality, and the promise of “$80 for a game ensure we can continue to deliver quality” is just the corporate bullshit we all knew it was. This is the WiiU all over again.
natecox@programming.dev 4 days ago
It’s frustrating that a small number of really good franchises are locked into the Nintendo bullshit business model.
Xenoblade Chronicles, Zelda, Mario, and a couple of other series running on Steam Deck without the emulation nonsense would make me tremendously happy.
Nima@leminal.space 4 days ago
wanna know something funny? I emulate totk on my steam deck. I stopped playing it on original switch because the load times on steam deck are speedy compared to on original switch.
I’m sure Totk runs fine on switch 2 if you pay 25 bucks for extra frames on a game you already paid 70 dollars for. but i don’t want to buy a console just for that.
but I do wish there was a future where nintendo would allow it on different platforms.
they won’t. ever. but it’d be cool.
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Zelda and Mario are first party, so I get that, but Xenoblade kills me. I need a rerelease of Xenogears, Xenosaga, and Xenoblade on PC.
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
The xenoblade game for the switch 1 was okay but the way all the women were depicted was fucking creepy and weird
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Zelda with a competent production company would be amazing.
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Emulators work really well and are very cost effective
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 days ago
I quit Nintendo ages ago. As a company, they’re assholes. Then they want to charge $50 for a game that’s 5 years old and 2 generations behind in graphics. Just can’t hold a candle to PC or even the other consoles. The only thing they have left is like 4 game IP’s
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 4 days ago
They just dropped a very mediocre Metroid title, and Mario Kart was middling at best, so they are down two franchises this generation already. If they make another clone of BotW then they are gonna be down a third, and they’ll have to make it up with Mario, but Donkey Kong didn’t inspire hope on that front, so I’m not sure what I have to look forward to…
Oh. Pokemon… Well, I’m not holding out hope there either after Scarlet/Violet.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Nintendo has made it extremely easy to boycott the Switch 2 so far. They’re hell-bent on releasing mid new games and tons of Switch 2 versions of Switch 1 games and acting as if they’re new. I’m a big fan of Nintendo’s games (well, I was, at this point) and the only exclusive Switch 2 one I have any interest in is Donkey Kong Bananza after the console being out for 6 months. That’s abysmal. At this rate there will only be a few Switch 2 games released over its entire lifespan that I’ll even want to bother emulating eventually.
Tattorack@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I only spent 99 DKK (Danish kroner) on a Switch 2 + Mario Kart World because a local company briefly fucked their pricing.
The system is certainly worth 99 DKK, that much I can say. Though… I find myself mostly still graviting to emulated MK8D.
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
Feels like the best meta for console purchasing is to only buy every other gen. I imagine the Sw2 is a blast for someone who didn’t have the 1 and now gets to play all those games at an improved quality/framerate
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
I played this on the Xbox 360
vogi@piefed.social 2 days ago
I was over the switch 2 when i saw the the bare switch OS only had minor changes.
Consoles are PCs without choice, but that is actually fine by me if they provide a fun experience not only in but outside of games as well.