Pardon my ignorance, but is wearing a shirt with the word Palestine on it and arrestable offense in England?
[Video] Cops not sure whether to arrest man with "Plasticine Action" shirt for supporting terrorism
Submitted 3 weeks ago by IndustryStandard@lemmy.world to maliciouscompliance@lemmy.world
https://i.imgur.com/EJjLUa8.mp4
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ExhaleSmile@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Acamon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Pretty sure that’s Scotland, not England (Glasgow to be specific). But yeah, the British government decided carrying a Palestine Action sign was basically terrorism.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It is now!
Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
But it doesn’t even say that.
ExhaleSmile@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m aware. He was being harassed for something similar which was why I asked
GraniteM@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’ve got a friend trying to move from the United States to England to escape our current shit show, and I’ve been telling him that England tends to do what America does, just with a posh accent to give it an air of legitimacy.
huppakee@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
If you think they do it with a posh accent you’ve not been to England lol
GraniteM@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m mainly thinking of Tony Blair making the same case for invading Iraq that George W. Bush was, just with the accent.
cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
in US english posh is a synonym for british
/s (½)
Echolynx@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Nowhere is truly safe at this point. Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
I’m currently working out moving to Jamaica. Got a friend there to help, but he says it ain’t all sunshine and cheap pot like the movies.
Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
Didn’t /u/flyingsquid move to England? He hasn’t posted in 6 months :o
WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah, he moved into the badlands near Manchester. Ever seen the movie “The hills have eyes”? Its like that up there.
Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Oh, as not great as they are, they aren’t even close to being as bad as US.
jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
You’re both selling them short. The UK is awful in ways that the Americans can only aspire to. They are each doing their own horrible things, just trading a bit of horrible culture now and then.
Kage520@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think he is saying they are following the same path, just a few steps behind. So if the US is running over a cliff, the UK will probably consider that a blazed trail and head in that direction too.
So yeah, the US sped up. Doesn’t mean the UK isn’t trying to follow.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Modern history, maybe not, but historically, the British Empire was the worst.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
At this point, leaving England for America is the saner choice…
I mean unless you’re brown, then ICE will just lock you away if you try
Crashumbc@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t know, we locked up an extremely white new Zealander for 3 weeks at the border recently…
echodot@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Nah. It’s not great here but that’s like leaving the frying pan and jumping into a volcano that’s actively erupting. ICE aren’t just racist, they get off on hurting people and they’re really not bothered who they are.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
They’ve got better Healthcare (for now). Other than that, yeah I don’t think they’re doing much better. In a lot of ways they’re worse. It could be argued either way which is worse, depending on your opinions on a few things.
bignate31@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
eh, we’ve got pubs and chips.
oh also went back to the States last week and was appalled that a pint can cost upwards of $10 when a decade ago it was only $6 (London prices have stayed around £6-7). throw on the whole tip racketeering insanity and I’d much rather be in England.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s already working. Due to the terrorism claims, each of these arrests requires a special review, and the system is being overwhelmed. Get a few more hundred or thousands of people to get an arrest for this, and the whole government scheme will have to be abandoned, because there will be no practical way for system to follow the required procedures for each case.
Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Fascists get pretty clever at solving that problem. They create these camps where they can just concentrate them in one place.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The British invented them in fact!!
echodot@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
It can’t be any worse than Butlins
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Oooh they should come up with a clever name for them… Focus Groups? Nah that doesn’t quite work…
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
See how that worked out for USA, when push came to shove - the law was abandoned.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yes, and that will be an important lesson to people. Then we can move to the next step to topple the capitalists.
SippyCup@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
laughs in American prison system
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
There isn’t enough prison places in the UK. They’d have to let actual criminals out early so they can arrest a grandmother. I don’t think even they are insane enough to actually do that the media would eat them alive.
LampKraft@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
so then they declare martial law
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 week ago
and then the mask is off
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
Every city has had the capacity to bus a few thousand people to a holding facility since at least the 2000s
Banzai51@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
You have the right to free speech…as long as… you’re not dumb enough to actually try it.
jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Can’t waste a day when the night brings a hearse
So make a move and plead the fifth 'cause ya can’t plead the firstechodot@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
I’m giving hope by the fact that the police clearly don’t know what to do with the situation. So they’re not automatically arresting everyone in the street the disagreeing with them. Probably because they realise they get lynched if they tried that
Metostopholes@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
Not fans of claymation, I guess.
Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
We need the Pingu version of V for Vendetta.
Noot noot!
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I swear to god Pingo used to speak English. I have very clear memories of episodes with dialogue. I think I may have somehow transferred from another universe some point.
callouscomic@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
In what other profession are you allowed to just stand there in public with a constant hand on someone?
JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Who is Donald Trump on Jeffrey Epstein’s island, Alex.
Woht24@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I mean… The act of not allowing you to leave is the problem here not the fact he is maintaining contact with his forearm.
callouscomic@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I take offense at the unwanted contact.
If I were to do this to someone, they would have me arrested for it in addition to restraining them. Therefore fuck these pigs. Why are they above that?
wulrus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
To be fair, the (good) British cops are by far not as likely to assault an innocent person as many others. But they do love to stop you and have a chat if even the tiniest thing stands out. I once walked around London, 15 years old, with toy handcuffs on one wrist. Cop came up to me and wanted to know the whole story, like one of those super-chatty people. Where are you from, how old, name, where are the cuffs from, why am I wearing them right now at this moment, …
He seemed happy with the answers, and we both moved on.
Well, it’s still a bother, especially when you are not free to walk away at any moment.
Doorbook@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If the toy looked like the real thing, You are 15, an underage with handcuffs, for all he know someone was trying to keep you captive and you manage to get out or you plan to cause damage and handdcuff someone. Good for him to make sure no one actually was hurting you…
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah before anybody spoke I was fairly clued in that this was not America by the fact that the cops were just standing there acting chill instead of holding him on the ground and screaming at him to stop resisting arrest.
echodot@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
It also helps that it’s in public and they are being filmed.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Pal,It’sTime ~for~ Action
Oh sorry didn’t see you there officer, I was just saying its time for my #sick dance 🕺 moves, is dancing a crime, officer? 😏
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Palestinian Faction is still allowed, no?
bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Would have also taken Pleistocene reaction.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 week ago
Palpitating Infarction
themaninblack@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
British authorities: you not only have to decide that approximations of a representation of an outlawed group are illegal, which is shaky ground at best, but you would also have to decide that open support of a group that is guilty only of vandalism of military assets is also illegal. To do so, without encroaching on the fucking Magna Carta, which y’all invented, would require an assertion that direct action on behalf of a subset of members of the group disallows the freedom of expression necessary to support the group writ large. Suck a fuckin dick.
Codandchips@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Are you sure it’s the T Shirt and not those socks they’re arresting him for…?
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Picture yourself in a train in a station
With Palestine porters with looking glass ties
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Someone should make a TMHT shirt with “Plastron Action” on it.
I won’t, 'cause I don’t live in the UK.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Haha, I’d almost forgotten the government made them rename it Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles, including the theme song.
Narauko@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Oh God, tell me that’s not real. That can’t be a real thing.
wulrus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s not just the two we see - they are apparently in radio contact with additional tax fraudsters / wasters, probably of higher rank or even with a law degree.
Never let them tell they need more funds. Could defund plenty without affecting any actual service one bit.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I mean at least they are actually discussing if this is arrestable, in the USA, cops would just shoot you.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Why do these deep-fried rectums need to be in quasi-military garb and high-visibility vests?
Knightfox@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m all for saying fuck the police, but what are you talking about with quasi-military garb and why are you bashing them for wearing high-vis vests?
These look like the worst equipped cops I’ve ever seen. I’m from the USA and I’ve seen Italian Police look harder than these guys, they at least had cars and sub-machine guns. These guys have boots, handcuffs, pepper spray, a fucking belt mounted medkit, a collapsible billy club, a baseball cap, cheap-ass-commercial-laundry-uniform-contract cargo pants, a black t-shirt, and a stab vest. The pigs don’t even have guns and they are wearing “please-don’t-run-me-over” safety vests.
PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Dude, the Carabinieri are fucking SCARY. I’d rather face a US state trooper and a Canadian Mountie at the same time.
viking@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
That’s a British police uniform, standard issue.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
All black with a high visibility vest, arresting people for words. Nice country.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Anyone else clueless as I am? I’m not in a position to turn on sound if there is any
ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
They aren’t saying anything. The UK criminalized pro-Palestinian slogans in public. Namely the “Support Palestine Action” slogan. This guy has a shirt that says “Support Plasticene Action” which, notably, does not reference Palestine at all though the words have an aesthetic similarity to the Palestine slogan. So the pigs are trying to see if they can arrest him for hate speech or not.
AlDente@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
This is close, but it is specifically in regards to a group called Palestinian Action, not Palestine or Palestinian people in general. The British government declared the group Palestine Action a terrorist group, and there is a preexisting law from 2000 which makes it illegal to support ‘terrorist groups’.
Of course the whole thing is ridiculous (Palestinian Action has never even hurt anyone), and many people have been publicly supporting Palestinian Action in protest. Over 500 people were arrested at a protest on the 10th.
arin@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
How is supporting a victim of war crimes ‘hate speech’?
Professorozone@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m sorry, I just see a bunch of people standing around.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
combining words of the pleistocene and Palestine.
creamlike504@jlai.lu 3 weeks ago
What’s going on with the guy with a plaid shirt and baseball cap?
sirico@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Why not just get a load of stickers and slap em on every car bus etc flood the streets
Trebuchet@europe.pub 3 weeks ago
Scot Squad in action
blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
This guy got de-arrested
theguardian.com/…/protester-arrested-wearing-plas…
Hopefully everyone will buy these t-shirts just to take the piss
whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
The officer seems to understand his mistake at least
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
The poor copper lost all that time arresting a guy with Plasticine Action on his t-shirt when he could’ve been arresting an old lady with the words “Palestine Action” written down on a piece of paper.
It’s making it hard for him to make his quota of arrests for that week.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Start a glassware company called Pal-3 Steins