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Yeah, agreed. Just seemed like this rant is preaching to the choir here.

Facebook and other mainstream social media is where all the most vile hatred spreads, so yeah. Water is wet.

Are people defending that on Lemmy?

I appreciate these tips. I’m gonna save this comment for the next time I circle back to Jellyfin.

Because I have friends and family that want access to some of the media I host. It’s a lot easier if I can just give them access and have it just work and whatever device they want to use.

I don’t know, and honestly that’s the beauty of it. It just works, and while I know every system is vulnerable to attack, I suspect it’s more secure than what I’d setup myself.

They provide super-simple access from outside your home without any tech knowledge. Automagically. It even works (albeit slowly) without port forwarding.

You may not need Plex to do anything, but it’s kinda disingenuous to say most people can easily and securely set up port forwarding and a DNS service/reverse proxy/etc to keep outside access working.

I am hoping that jellyfin gets better over the next few years. I keep trying it and it keeps feeling broken to me. Lots of people have the same experience it seems but then there’s also always a few people that act like I’m crazy. Nah, it’s still not there, unless things have changed a lot in the past year.

15 years too late and probably not what you’d actually want

… You just literally said hosting shouldn’t exist. You are using the Internet right now.

Gotcha. We’ll see, I guess.

Are you advocating for an self hosting to only exist locally. Or are you advocating for hosting everything on corporate servers?

Then they aren’t doing it correctly, or lying. That is an included/free feature. They advertise it that way and other users ITT say it works. I’ve no reason to doubt them.

I didn’t realize I did that. Given that my opinion on OSes is that “the larger the budget, the shittier it is”, I don’t knowingly do what you’re suggesting here. Linux over windows and macOS any day.

Yes, they changed the free featureset, and afaik those changes were fair. Providing a tunnel for remote streaming for free doesn’t seem like a good business plan. I mean, yeah they could always back out of the promise of what a lifetime pass is, and if they do I will find a new solution and hope they’re sued for it.

If they do back out of their lifetime commitment, I suspect that would drive some other similar apps to get better. Maybe I would even learn to live with jellyfin as it currently exists in that situation. But so far I don’t see a reason to, and that would almost have been true if I never paid for plex.

God I hate humans

Here’s a controversial and complex stance, but you may be able to understand it eventually:

Don’t buy it.

I am a proponent of FOSS too but that doesn’t mean anything built for profit is shitty, let alone “cancer”.

So don’t expose it to the internet

No

Thwres zero excuse for running anything exposed to the internet.

…except this entire thread is based on a use case for it

With Plex you get to pay for those bugs and still have software that depends on a connection even though you’re hosting and viewing your own media, locally.

You’re condescending dude. I wouldn’t be using Plex if I didn’t understand like 37 things you’re implying I don’t understand here. I paid for it once, it was a good value for me, and I find it pretty weird that you apparently want to admonish me for that. If you want to use jellyfin have at it. I found it buggy to the point of barely being usable. Just sharing that experience and I don’t need anyone to agree with that.

I understand there’s an explanation for it. Doesn’t make these things not things to consider when choosing one’s solution

That only addresses one of several items.

99.9% of the use mine has seen for the past several years has been to stream to my living room TV in the same house. But regardless, what point are you making? It’s commercial software. And btw the $85 I paid years ago to use it forever was more than worth it to me.

Imo Plex is worth the lifetime pass if you get it on sale.

All the comments saying Jellyfin is better always puzzle me. I’ve given it like three chances now and each time it feels just as buggy as the last. And that doesn’t even consider the fact that you’ll need more steps to expose it to the Internet for remote viewing or the fact that there’s literally a list of unaddressed security holes github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/5415

Ah the weekly “Plex should be entirely free even though it’s commercial software!”

Do we even need economists to see that keeping qualified workers out would hurt the economy?

You seem a little out of touch with how people think.

Gotcha. I read the tone differently, but all good.

Yeah, you have two options, as the server owner:

1. You can enter a user’s email from the Plex UI to invite a user to your library. The user then gets an email asking them to sign up if they don’t already have an account.

2. You can generate/send a link to join, any way you choose.

Once signed up, the user can accept the library invitation, then they login to the TV or other device. The code is used for the TV login process, like on other streaming platforms. But yeah, you could do an account-less version of this for Jellyfin, which I think laypeople would like.

As I said, most people don’t have that nor do they want to set it up.

No, Plex lets you invite friends to your server with a link they can click and sign up. Then they can type a code into their TV app or login to a browser and watch basically like a standard streaming setup they already probably have used.

Jellyfin is less familiar. Arguably not much more difficult but people aren’t always rational. The unfamiliar is often intimidating.