Lol we got affordable multi terabyte SSDs before HL3
A 2003 complaint about Half Life 2
Submitted 2 months ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to retrogaming@lemmy.world
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9point6@lemmy.world 2 months ago
msage@programming.dev 2 months ago
I haven’t bought a non-NVMe drive in the last 5 years.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Me neither, haven’t bought any drives
Ugurcan@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Well, Petabyte drives are out there for a while. I think their price drop is imminent.
9point6@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Oh really? I’m assuming not in a consumer form factor? If so that’s completely passed me by
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 months ago
Not in a single drive yet, but very viable in a single server these days.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This is as much of a valid complaint now as it was back then.
There is absolutely no excuse for games now to be over 100GB in storage space. Unless you have the longest game ever that span across like 1 and a half “normal” game lengths. The biggest games now should be 60GB or less. So many developers refuse to do.press things that could be compressed with zero noticeable loss in quality except for maybe a camera being really close to an object with an 8k display resolution.
At the absolute worst, do what games used to do for like 6 months before not caring: make the game for 1080p players, compression and all, then offer a free DLC with all the uncompressed stuff. At least make the storage feast optional.
Womble@piefed.world 2 months ago
The most annoying thing is there is a trivial to implement way to close to halve these stupidly inflated sizes: make the highest resolution of textures a free DLC that you optionally install
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 2 months ago
/c/YourCommentButStroke
qarbone@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I mean, if the base game folder is .8 Gb, then aren’t their 3 mods the 1 Gig culprit? That’s a moddev issues and not many are concerned about optimizations.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You did misread but you’re probably also still correct. The modded game files are 1.82 total while the previous version of the game was 0.837, while I don’t know for sure what the newer version filesize was it was still an odd complaint for them to make.
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 2 months ago
A lot of that is shadows and lighting data, sometimes in unusual data structures without readily available compression methods. Compressing textures also impacts load times, obviously decompressing 10gb of jpgs could take a while. Still probably there are good compression methods and good tradeoffs to make, if any AAA studios actually cared about storage space (They do care a lot about GPU memory, just not storage space).
ICastFist@programming.dev 2 months ago
I wish games would release with low/medium, up to 1024x1024 textures and stuff by default and let people choose to download/install higher res stuff. If I’m not going to use the 4k pack, I don’t need it sitting on my hard drive
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Reminds of the those shitty Battlefront Remasters with upscaled 8 or 4k texture or whatever it was. Games went from being less than 5gbs to being 60 gb or something like that.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
even 60GB is absurd, tons of games get by just fine with like 10GB while having no lack of content and graphics.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Nah, I understand a AAA game being up to 60GB. Sometimes the amount of content really is that big. Elden Ring, for example. Its a big game with a lot of content, and its pretty close to 60GB I think. And yes, Morrowind has explorable space probably equally as big as Elden Ring for just 1GB. But compared to Elden Ring, Morrowind is like an empty barren wasteland. Maybe Elden Ring’s landmass data could have reduced filesize if it used prodecurally generated mesh if it doesn’t already, but in the end I think 60GB and under is fine.
While indie games can easily fit under 10GB because they are tiny or 2D, I get why bigger AAA games can’t.
KingOfTheCouch@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I was about to say, I recognize that name… Then I saw forum name and the year…
I was there Gandalf, 3000 years ago…
nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Kids these days don’t know how to have a proper brick party in forums anymore.
tehn00bi@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I hope 100 TB drives are out by the time HL3 comes out.
unphazed@lemmy.world 2 months ago
By the time H3 comes out your great great great grand children will be reminiscing about how games once were about gameplay and plot and not the 100th version of Call of Duty or Assassins Creed. I’d say Madden too but let’s face it no one will play it 150 years from now unless it’s VR.
nyctre@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Nah, I’m willing to bet HL3 will come out (at the latest) 5 years after Gaben’s death. Not because he’s witholding it, obviously, but because whoever comes next will probably try to make as much money as possible and that’s an easy first way to do it.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
unless its VR
I thought the same thing about touchscreens when they first came out. I really did think they were the future of gaming. Seemingly limitless buttons in limitless combinations. Touch and drag game pieces directly, action and vision in the same place.
Turns out gaming on mobile is shit. So so shit.
Maybe VR will end up the same way. Its pretty neat now while its still new and shiny, but maybe it never actually reaches potential.
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 2 months ago
I hope SSDs and NVMes are cheaper by the time HL3 comes out
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
I hope not
FrankFrankson@lemmy.world 2 months ago
1.82 GB out of 160 GB and they are worried. Imagine how they feel now with 500 gb and 1 TB drives with some AAA games being 250 GB.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’m old enough that I got HL2 in a retail box, when it was new.
and the fucking disks installed the game encrypted, and I could not use my computer until the next day, due to it thrashing my HDD and CPU so hard to decrypt the files that my computer was functionally useless that evening, and overnight.
theangryseal@lemmy.world 2 months ago
ICastFist@programming.dev 2 months ago
Congrats on finding your Civ2 disc! Do you have a drive to see if it still works?
BodilessGaze@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I remember when Steam came out and everyone hated it because of how slow and buggy it was. Crazy how times have changed.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Steam is still slow and buggy.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Steam used to be slick and fast before it changed over to chromium and started trying to become a social media platform
toddestan@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The client is still rather resource intensive, it’s just that computers have gotten so much faster that you don’t notice it.
Now, if Valve would ever deal with the download and sync issues, that would be nice.
Gloomy@mander.xyz 2 months ago
I installed Steam during a Lan party back in 2007 (i think to play Left 4 Dead) and remember thinking “Damn, not another bloody useless account”. Little did i know :)
tehn00bi@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I still have my 3 disk box
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I still have my original box/CDs too… i have no idea where they are, but I know i have them…somewhere.
Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 2 months ago
Why does she look much more asian than in the game?
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
did counter-strike 2 come with half life? i vaguely remember half life but i remember counterstrike 2 being played a lot in the dorm floor in uni. i feel like i remember them being connected some how but i can't recall.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No, Counterstrike 2 came out a couple years ago.
before that was global offensive.
the counter strike that came with HL2 was Counterstrike Source.
CS:S was such a phenominal game… So many years of nights spent staying up till 2am playing on the same server, with the same guys… and all of them gone now, like tears in the rain…
G4Z@feddit.uk 2 months ago
I got a code with my 9600XT, it was delayed so long the card was pretty much outdated by the time it came out, but I still had the code that came with it!
Pretty sure I was able to pre load it on steam before release day, I remember I took the day off work just to play it.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That bridge level still, to this day, fires every one of my acrophobic neurons.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Kinda miss waiting fucking forever for games with multiple CDs. I know I had a game that came retail with 5 discs, I just can’t remember which one. I remember KOTOR had 4.
ICastFist@programming.dev 2 months ago
I don’t personally remember any game retailing with 5 CDs, 4 was the limit, anything over that and they’d just go for a DVD instead
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 months ago
We’ll have petabyte drives for $50 before HL3 appears.
chocrates@piefed.world 2 months ago
Most of the people that made half life 1 and 2 are gone I think. Even if they made half life 3 it likely wouldn't be the game we wanted all those decades ago
weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
People really liked Half-Life Alyx so whoever is in the development team is still capable of making a game people love. Though, ultimately, whether a hypotetical release of Half-Life 3 could live up to the hype or not is irrelevant since no such game will ever be released.
fluckx@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Half life 3 will simply never live up to the hype/fantasy people have for it ( I think ).
After all this time I feel they’re either never going to release it, or release it when the bar from the public becomes… Realistic.
neidu3@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
The reason why HL3 is not out yet is because valve is waiting for consumer adoption of 10TB drives
Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Gone are the days when a game delivered on seven floppy disks was considered “overblown”.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
I installed HL2 from five CDs back in the day
PraiseTheSoup@midwest.social 2 months ago
I can’t be certain but I seem to recall installing Unreal Tournament 2004 from seven CDs
kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Saaaame
TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 2 months ago
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 months ago
surprised there hasnt been a linux distro called SiskOS yet.
TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You know, I wouldn’t be surprised. Space Jesus needs his own OS.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
monkeys paw: it gets released but its named after the thong song guy
chunes@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Not many people these days understand that Steam used to suck bad.
Acidbath@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I have heard that people used to be super PISSED that steam is required for valve games. I guess it makes sense now considering hdd sizes back then.
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 2 months ago
Now what sucks is that people are okay with underaged kids gambling because, come on, it’s Steam!
TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 months ago
Lol next thing you know they'll sneak HL3 into a VR game
... oh
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 2 months ago
HL:A isn’t bad though
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 months ago
Wait until they get to the end of level one and have to turn the tape over and press play.
Doorknob@lemmy.world 2 months ago
When I was young, I was not allowed to install anything on the family PC whatsoever. I had a 100MB Zip disk and was told anything that I wanted to keep, I could keep on there. That disk got a big workout. Had Duke 3D and the Half-Life Uplink demo on there, plus about 30MB to spare! Great days man.
icelimit@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Man I was jelly green over classmates that could afford zip drives. They’d bring it to school retiring computer class, whip it out, both showing off and fake-lamenting that oh they didn’t know the school didn’t have zip drives.
EitherEther@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Hah I was the same. Downloaded demos (happypuppy.com, gamesdomain.com), installed on a Jaz drive.
Those iomega devices had a pretty awesome design.
WereCat@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I still remember when I had to reinstall my WindowsXP from the 3GB HDD onto my 1.5GB HDD so I could install The Sims 2
Nikls94@lemmy.world 2 months ago
And now 1.5GB RAM won’t even load Windows.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
So. 1 TB drives indeed were out before Half-Life 3.
But I’m nostalgic over a simpler time when 1 GB for a game was a lot.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 months ago
just cause they were out doesnt mean people had them.
Theres 30tb hard drives today.
You’d be hard pressed to find anyone that had them in their gaming rigs.
npdean@lemmy.today 2 months ago
The lack any comment saying “Half life is not retro gaming” is concerning to me.
scholar@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Half Life came out in 1998 (27 years ago) and this post is from 2003 (22 years ago). Half Life is retro gaming.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 months ago
I feel like gaming generations are distinct from hardware generations, and we mostly haven’t moved on much from whatever gaming gen Half Life is in.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 months ago
Reminds me of the time I had checked my TF2 folder after IDK how many years of playing, and the folder was like 500GB because of temp cached files not being deleted.
yarr@feddit.nl 2 months ago
I remember buying a 100MB hard drive and thinking how hard it was going to be to use all the space. It really was…
Times have changed.
Etterra@discuss.online 2 months ago
Oh that poor innocent soul. They must not have been old enough to remember needing boot disks because your 90s jalopy couldn’t handle Warcraft or Myst.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Looks at 500 gb New Vegas install
Yeah I don’t see the problem here.
JakoJakoJako13@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Lol those were the days. I remember Simcity 4 releasing back then and how quickly my mod folder blue up. Then by the time that game was old it was only 2.15gb and that was nothing. The jump from >10gb to 50gb games was insane. Now the jump to 100+ Gb hurts a lot. Any time a game is iN MB I do a little happy dance.
BabyVi@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Damn I miss half-life mods.
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
This is funny on so many levels, also a vit bitter as well…
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Lol.
I’ve now got Steam games spread across 5 hard drives. One of which is a 5tb old school disk drive for the games I have A LOT of user made content for. I’ve gotta be in the terrabytes range at this point.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Fortunately, HL2 mods were/are nowhere near that big, even the vast majority of total conversions.
Go play Minerva if you never did.
SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Why were drives 160GB? This doesn’t really follow the 2^x pattern…
Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They are out… They are out before Half-Life 3…
stupidcasey@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Fun fact:
There was actually 4 games planned with the fourth one being an epic End Game style cross over finally of Portal, TF, Left for Dead, CS, and Half Life all coming together to fight the combined But unfortunately the series only had a Half Life and decayed down to 2 games in each series.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I want this to be real
TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 months ago
People getting whoosed by this is hilarious. Nicely done.
papalonian@lemmy.world 2 months ago
When I die, I’m gonna close my eyes and dream of this.
S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Narrator: Then while Casey sips his tea, dozen of lemmy users think for themselves “heh… stupid casey made me chucke…”. As he puts down his tea he winks, and everyone had a moment there…