What is the actual point of a bra?

Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨EABOD25@lemm.ee⁩ to ⁨nostupidquestions@lemmy.world⁩

Let me preface this by saying I am a man, and smoked a little too much, so I’m sitting here thinking… what is or was the original purpose of a bra? Weight support? Vanity? Covering the nips so people’s eyes met your eyes? Like what’s it all about?

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db2@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Large breasts are heavy. Redistributing the weight helps the back.

Also for some people seeing nipples is scary for some reason.

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- andrewta@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Ewww… Nipples
  
  Which reminds me, I need to get milk on the way home.
  
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  - Potatisen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Kekekekeke
    
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  - xavier666@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Milk industry: We need to resume the bra burning movement
    
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  - hakunawazo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It’s ok, Homelander.
    
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- StaySquared@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  This. At least that’s my understanding. When I lived in South Florida, one of my friends said she was going to try going braless for the summer, a few weeks later she complained that going braless made the under part of her breasts chaff / irritate. Heat, humidity, and skin friction is bad mmmmkay.
  
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- joyjoy@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  seeing nipples is scary for some reason.
  
  Scary nipples
  Image
  
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- actionjbone@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Nipples killed my dad :(
  
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  - thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    are they single?
    
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  - Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    100% of people who have ever come into contact with a nipple have died. Scary stuff
    
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That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I have 38C and I wear a bra for a variety of reasons. It does help with support, they weigh a lot and having them bounce freely hurts. It’s like having two large water balloons taped to your chest. Every slight bump or jolt pulls on the skin.

It also helps with sweating. Underwood sweat is a real thing and just as uncomfortable as armpit sweat or thigh rub sweat. A bra helps to absorb sweat and moisture under there.

A bra also acts a a sort of “armor.” My breast’s are rather sensitive, and rubbing against my shirt or other stuff can be painful. Having a bra layer protects them from chaffing and rubbing.

There’s also a bit of vanity to it, depending on type and style of bra. Some are utilitarian and functional only, some are stylish, and some are designed to show off in low cut blouses.

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- plumpfella@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Every slight bump or jolt pulls on the skin.
  
  this sounds like hell
  
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- iamanurd@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Underwood sweat!
  
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  - That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Auto misspeller strikes again.
    
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  - captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Spent a lot of today in 90 degree heat and 90% humidity out in the wood shop. I know all about underwood sweat.
    
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  - FiniteLooper@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Frank Underwood for re-election
    
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- EABOD25@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I completely understand and respect all statements beside the nipple rubbing thing.
  
  We have no comparison to who’s nipples are more sensitive, but raw nipples are the worst. Especially when sweat and exertion are the worst.
  
  IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, nipples are just sensitive matter who you are. Weight distribution and jiggle control is something I can’t relate to though
  
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  - Alimentar@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Damn you really did smoke a little too much
    
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  - GamingChairModel@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Weight distribution and jiggle control is something I can’t relate to though
    
    It’s not hard. Put on a really heavy backpack and leave the straps super loose, and go try to move around, maybe a few athletic moves that involve changing speed or direction. Compare to a tight backpack with a waistband and shoulder straps properly strapped to your body, and try to move around again. The straps help control the extra motion so that you’re in better control.
    
    Or run around in shoes 5 sizes too big. Or go for a run with your arms loose and intentionally left limp, swinging around like pendulums.
    
    The whole world has a million examples of why providing bracing and support makes for more efficient and comfortable movement.
    
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  - That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Weight distribution and jiggle control is something I can’t relate to though
    
    Well, you can try a little experiment in the privacy of your home. Take two water balloons about the size of softballs and tape them to your chest. Spend the whole day wearing them around the house.
    
    It’ll quickly become something you can relate to 😀
    
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  - fogstormberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    We have no comparison to who’s nipples are more sensitive
    
    trans person here. girl nipples are way way way more sensitive. its not even a contest
    
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  - ChillPenguin@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Asks for women’s opinion in the purpose of bras. Ignore major parts of the women’s answers. Bruh
    
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  - Live_your_lives@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’m a fellow man, but I assume the primary difference between our nipples and theirs is not sensitivity so much as it is that theirs will swing around and rub against things a lot more.
    
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- hoss@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I wish my wife could explain things as well as you did
  
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gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’ve got a childhood friend who got a reduction because she had back problems after she went through puberty, and it basically led to her having chronic pain for a while in college. She’s WAY happier at a C-cup than whatever size she had before.

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- ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Probably because it does nothing to answer the question and the only relating component is that your talking about boobs.
  
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  - gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I intended on tying that into weight support, but I suppose that wasn’t terribly clear
    
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  - Hawk@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    My favourite part of threaded platforms is the arbitrary and tangential discourse
    
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- ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  People down voting you? Do they not realize this is a serious medical condition and does create back pain?
  
  Horny porn brain mfers who don’t know how women’s bodies work.
  
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- EABOD25@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Upvoted, friend. And happy your friend is doing better and is happier, but if a C is her happy place, how big were they? That sounds sucky
  
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  - volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Friendly reminder that C cup has no meaning without a band size.
    
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- AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I had a gf like that. It made total sense to me even though I never saw her before the reduction. She was quite happy with it as well.
  
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- Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  BOO
  
  /s
  
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  - xorollo@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Ackushually it’s Boob/s
    
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frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
My titties hurt when they bounce too much during hormone shifts. Plus the nipples are really irritating in A/C when they stiffen and feel wormy (dunno how to describe, like a small boner demanding attention) and I also accidentally scratch them without a bra to cover them. Was especially important to have some sort of coverage when I had piercings in them because I almost tore one out brushing my hair. Never healed right after that.

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- yum@lemmy.eco.br ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Ouch!
  
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- Timely_Jellyfish_2077@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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  - frankspurplewings@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Bruh we are here 😂
    
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- KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  dunno how to describe, like a small boner demanding attention
  
  as a guy i would imagine it’s much like that weird stage between semi chub and flaccid where your dick is just annoyingly erect.
  
  Just kind of happens sometimes.
  
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frankspurplewings@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’m a 36G and wear the bra because it’s super annoying to have them sway when I walk. That’s the main reason for me. I find it more comfortable to be braless, but I really shouldn’t do it in public. It’s attracts more attention than I usually want.

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- Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Without a bra, you risk getting a harmonic resonant swing and toppling over like the Tacoma Narrows bridge.
  
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  - frankspurplewings@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Good thing I live the desert. Not many bridges around here.
    
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- RebekahWSD@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  This is why I prefer winter, I can wear my bulky coat and go as braless as I want, despite the 40J I’m suppose to wear
  
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  - bibliotectress@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    38H (UK sizing) here.
    
    I still don’t go braless even in winter because they hang low, and that embarrasses me. Existing at all embarrasses me, so take that with a grain of salt.
    
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- Sensitivezombie@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Having 36G breasts, does it cause back pain? If so, how do you manage it?
  
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  - frankspurplewings@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It caused more paint when I was wearing ill fitting bras in both size and shape. I found r/abrathatfits in my mid-twenties and it changed everything for me. I mostly wear unlined mid coverage demi bra shapes now.
    
    I do still get back pain like just below the shoulder blades in the center of my back. But that’s been there for years and I’m used to it now
    
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I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’m a small breasted woman who does not wear a bra. The reasons of practicality and comfort are described below for bigger chested people (I didn’t see mentioned that if they are really big and you try to run without serious, sometimes two sports bras on they can fly up and hit you in the face). I do sometimes accidentally hit my nipple on something, which I don’t like.

But in my experience, people get upset at seeing boob shaped boobs. Strangers tell me I should be wearing a bra. They want bra shaped boobs. Nipples are scary.

I haven’t worn one since middle school when it was new and fun and made me feel “grown up” (but uncomfortable). But some years back I got shingles and apparently permanent nerve damage on the nerve group that would be right under the bra band on my back and anything irritating it makes me feel like I’m on fire so it’s just not going to happen. Certainly not in the name of sparing the general public the scandal of seeing boob shaped boobs in a loose T shirt. At the very most I will use silicone tape to hide my nipples in very formal situations.

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- Shou@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’m not busty either, but I hate the feeling of my chest moving around or hanging. Sport’s bra’s are the only thing I wear. Even while sleeping.
  
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  - TheDoozer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’m a man, and that’s how I feel about boxers and being nude. I don’t like that dangle feel of uncontrolled swaying on a sensitive part.
    
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- EABOD25@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Ngl. I’ve hit my nipples on things and it sucks. My dogs have ran their nails across them and they burn for the rest of the day. I totally feel that pain
  
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  - Trail@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Curious why you don’t just ask your wife.
    
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- 1984@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It’s very sexy to see nipples through clothes. I don’t know why but it’s just much hotter than seeing bare breasts.
  
  Maybe people ask you to wear a bra because it’s making guys get distracted.
  
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  - Jikiya@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    They do, but they shouldn’t. You should not ask a stranger to change their behavior because you cannot control your own. Maybe family would do it for you, but even then it’s can be a shitty thing to do.
    
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Mothra@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Yes yes that’s exactly it. You see nipples are sensitive and boobs tend to jiggle and sway around when one moves, it can get very uncomfortable. So a bra reduces friction and accidental brushing against objects and clothing, helps support the weight and yes also helps shape the bosom. All that.

The original purpose of the bra was to let women move freely without fearing their breasts might pop out of their dresses iirc. But I think women used to wrap their chests with a tight cloth if they had to heavy physical work before bras as we know them today. Take this with a grain of salt, I didn’t fact check any.

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- bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Similar to why many men wear boxer briefs
  
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- scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Right, like if you just rephrase OP’s question as what’s the point of a sports bra, it becomes more obvious. Everyone knows what a sports bra is for, right? Well with significant enough breasts, virtually all movement benefits from some support.
  
  The weird thing to me is how women with very small breasts can still sometimes adhere to a strict bra regime. Some of it is cultural programming, including the terror that your nipples might show through a shirt. This IMO is not worth the cost and maintenance and restriction of a bra.
  
  When people poop on Muslims for covering their women or wonder how some women could ever want to wear a veil, I like to remind them that we do exactly the same thing in the West. It’s just that our bar is set at a different level. No we don’t lose our shit if women show their faces but we still lose our shit if their nipples show.
  
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  - Mothra@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yes you have a point with that but it really does help reduce friction and sensitivity in the area. I think I’d still wear one if I was more on the flat chested end just because of that reason. Everyone is different
    
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sentientity@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
So there is a fascinating historical rabbit hole here that I went down a few years ago. I think it is Nicole Rudolph who did a deep dive video into the history of bras and other shapewear. If you smoked a lot and like history I recommend it.
Bras and similar garments give the proper ‘shape’ for the clothes and cultural norms of the moment, and give people comfort and support if they need it. Lots of people need something sturdy to keep everything in place, but it’s also still a very grey area of social acceptance to choose not wear one.

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- OceanSoap@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Also when I run they bounce in a constrained manor.
  
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sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Yes, all of those things. Also it makes exercising more comfortable.

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xe3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Make: Bouncy things less bouncy Pokey things less pokey Gravity less gravit-y

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- Gingernate@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’m thinking this guy has never seen real tits in real life, a teenager, or both. Or just blazed, that I can respect hahahah.
  
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  - xe3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I got stoned enough to forget my age a few months ago… not like for a moment… I consciously focused on it for 5 minutes, couldn’t figure it out, and couldn’t remember until the next morning…
    
    I am old enough to occasionally forget my age, not to literally not be able to recall it… so I can empathize if bro is just waaay too stoned to comprehend the concept of a bra haha
    
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PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I am also reliably told that the removal of a bra - particularly a tight one - at the end of a working day is almost as wonderful as the feeling of taking your socks off when you get home.

Bliss.

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- SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It is a great, great feeling.
  
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- CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Wait what? I wear socks at all times unless I’m in water or asleep. Mostly because my feet are always cold.
  
  I do enjoy the ski sock peel at the end of a day on the slopes though!
  
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  - BlackPenguins@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I think taking off a pair of jeans is a better equivalent for guys.
    
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  - 1984@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I have also never even considered taking my socks off when I get home. But if I lived in a warm country, I would.
    
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henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Every woman will be different but according to my wife it’s mainly for the support. I appreciated this more when I had a testicular injury where I needed underwear that lifts holds and prevents unnecessary movement.

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- mojo_raisin@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  A ballsière
  
  Image
  
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  - knacht1@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Over the shoulder boulder holder.
    
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- SteefLem@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  And now im holding my balls for emotional support pain… damn
  
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  - henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You didn’t ask, but I was wearing some jeans and somehow one of my ‘kids’ got stuck in a pant leg and as I yanked it off it became hyper extended and tore some ligaments.
    
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Bilbo_Haggins@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Advantages of bras: Look nice (if you’re into that look, which many people are) Keep your nipples from chafing Support/containment for larger boobs Keep prudish people from being mad at your nipples Can be worn without a shirt for sports if they cover enough real estate When breastfeeding, help catch/absorb leaks

Disadvantages of bras: Uncomfortable if not fitted right Sweaty as fuck on hot days Expensive Many have to be hand washed if they are fancy

I would say I wear bras about 30-50% of the time and it’s usually for either support/chafing prevention or looks. The rest of the time I can’t be bothered. I’m also lucky to not have super large breasts. I know women who do may find a good fitted bra to be more comfortable than no bra.

When I was breastfeeding I wore them all the time though because it is super awkward to leak through your shirt in public.

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- AplasticAenima@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Just wondering, but why did you use punctuation in the last half of your comment, but not the first?
  
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RBWells@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I have never needed one for support, but for the past 20, 30 years the US has had some sort of weird rule that only smooth lumps are professional, no hint of actual breast shape. That’s easing in non-professional public life, finally, so I don’t wear one a lot of the time, but at work wear something with light padding to make that weird Barbie doll lump shape.

Sports bra for running, yes that serves a practical function - holds the boobs still so they don’t bounce and hurt. So if one is more endowed and bouncing in everyday life, I imagine that a bra with structural support would be more comfortable than nothing.

I really wanted to answer that the point is right at the front of each cup!

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NarrativeBear@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Have you ever tried running balls free, same idea.

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2ugly2live@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Can’t speak for all, but back pain and comfort. Also, large breasts can have difficulty getting air under there which can cause irritations. Sometimes it’s just to keep your breasts off your stomach. I wear sports bras and have “special” bras, but my hatred of bras has really dimished when I accepted sports bra life.

I also just don’t like them “loose?” Like, I don’t want to bend over and have them go awol, even if I’m at home. Also, can store stuff in the bra and I have dropped my phone on the floor thinking I had a bra to catch it 😭

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Pandantic@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I am someone who has had very large breasts and fairly small breasts in my lifetime. When my boobs were big, wearing bras was manageability and comfort. They were heavy and hurt my back and were always in the way. In addition, it was hard to do any sports or be active without being, what I called, double strapped: having a bra with a sports bra over the top. This is how I got through high school.

Now that I’ve both had a breast reduction and lost a lot of weight, my boobs are smaller and I don’t wear a bra often. When I do, it’s a vanity thing, I think my boobs look better under my clothes when wearing a bra, and a utility thing, like when I’m working out or doing something strenuous. Also, I wear one when I’m at work because it seems more appropriate.

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weker01@feddit.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’m actually quite interested in dress history. I’m an engineer at heart and clothing is fundamentally also an engineering problem (and design of course). It’s an area of engineering that was always dominated by women and you can sometimes see the novel approaches that brings.

For example historical corsets were actually quite comfortable when fitted right. One reason why is actually breast support. Predecessors to the modern Bra did exist but were not in fashion as a more compressed looking bust and later a shaped silhouette was in fashion.

Also it’s cool what tricks one can use to form the silhouette without extremely compressing the waist (which is how many modern people often think is the function of a corset).

I recommend Bernadettes channel on this topic: link

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DessertStorms@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
A lot of replies here ignoring the obvious - patriarchy, religion, and capitalism.

There are plenty of examples of societies past and present, for the vast majority of the time humans existed probably, where breasts are free to exist as they are. The people those breasts are attached to do all manner of work and activities without hinderance, or chafed nipples. Just like those with flat chests do.

The reason that in (especially our western) modern world we are expected to wear bras has to do with puritanism, shame, control, and profiteering from all of the above.

Comfort is categorically not a priority of the billion dollar bra industry, the trillion dollar advertising industry, nor those who demand we wear them lest we “excite” their, or their son’s, urges or “distract” them from their important manly duties (and if we don’t, and they attack us, it’d be our fault for not being “modest” enough and “asking for it”).

When we have all been socialised with these demands and expectations for centuries, they become so deeply ingrained, it’s really hard to separate from our own free will, and yet ask any group of people who wear bras what the best part of the day is, and they’ll tell you it’s taking it off.

And to be clear - this isn’t a judgment of anyone who wears a bra, I wear an underwire once in a blue moon which I hate, but am usually in a sports bra because I feel more comfortable with everything held in place (and also have nosy neighbours I’m not that friendly with), it’s about questioning why I feel more comfortable that way, and how much of that is natural vs manufactured by a society that demands I keep everything held in place, and hidden (unless they’re “required” to sell something or entertain the mens).

Anyway, I’m stoned too and I tend to ramble, so I think I 'll leave it at that for now lol

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Nefara@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Breasts can get heavy, and the sensation of the gravity constantly pulling down on your skin and soft tissues can be very uncomfortable. If you get sweaty, moisture can get trapped underneath and cause rashes or fungal infections. Moving about, they can get in the way of your arm movements and if jumping or running the movement can be downright painful. Imagine piercing your ears with a heavy weight and then shaking your head. You would want to minimize their movement!

Historically, women have used woven cloth bandeaus, breast bands, belts, straps, stays, corsets, bralets, bodices and all sorts of things to try to minimize movement and support breast tissue. Bras are just the most common contemporary thing.

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RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
bras were a cheaper alternative to corsets. and yes, they were popular and not as oppressive as hollywood would have you believe, and they were considered good for back support. Bras didn’t need nearly as much metal or time. And since they were cheaper, they were more common. At least, from things I’ve heard elsewhere.

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NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I think it’s much the same purpose that underwear serves for the testicles (and penis). As a man, I honestly can’t remember any time I walked around without underwear, but I’m pretty sure it would be worse than without. Things would just flail everywhere.

Other answers about bras are great but I thought the male flip side ought to be mentioned.

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recursive_recursion@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
it provides support and helps prevent nipple chafing

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bear@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
sports: chest binding

aesthetics: style choices

modesty: cultural views
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UnRelatedBurner@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’m a visual learner btw

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shit_of_ass@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
boobies

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postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You mean where the tassel goes?

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