cross-posted from: discuss.tchncs.de/post/55430533
I mean, it’s not really bestiality if it isn’t sexual. A gynocological exam also isn’t fingering …
"Being vegan is unnatural"
Submitted 3 hours ago by nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de to [deleted]
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remon@ani.social 3 hours ago
nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 hours ago
A gynaecologist “treats” the patient, benefitting the patient.
Forcibly impregnating someone is also called rape.
Devadander@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Pretty fucked up to try to equate animal husbandry with rape.
Diddlydee@feddit.uk 3 hours ago
A cow isn’t someone, and treatment isn’t rape.
Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 hours ago
Aka the nudist defense.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
It is sexual, it sounds like they jack them off to acquire genetic material to impregnate the female livestock with
DahGangalang@infosec.pub 2 hours ago
Trying to be “facts forward” so make of this what you will. Source: I was in FFA in highschool in a beef intense-ish area.
The method of collecting semen I’m most familiar with is when they take a female cow in heat and tie her up, then bring a male bull they want to collect semen from into the same pen. The male will smell the female is in heat, gets erect, and will attempt to mount her.
As the male is trying to mount the female, people in the pen with the cattle will have a large rubbery “sleeve” on a pole (imagine a cow sized condom on a stick) that they will maneuver around the bull’s penis as it mounts the cow. He does his thing in the condom thinking he’s inside the female (usually less than 30 seconds) dismounts and then the ranchers have their semen for artificial insemination.
I’ve been out of that area for over a decade now a new method may have emerged since then, but in my Animal Sciences class, that’s how we were taught semen is harvested for most livestock.
remon@ani.social 3 hours ago
Unless they are jacking off themselves at the same time, it’s not sexual.
goedel@discuss.tchncs.de 2 hours ago
it’s a veterinary procedure
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 hour ago
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
Fruit is perfectly wholesome and natural though. Except they aren’t…
Corn is basically a bulge of semen because of how humans have bred it.
Bananas are incapable of reproducing. All bananans you find in the supermarket are clones. If men were to die out, so would the common (cavendish) banana.
Cows are bred for milk production. If it wasn’t for men, their milk production would be very different. It’s just as natural as a banana.
LSNLDN@slrpnk.net 10 minutes ago
Cows are just as unnatural as bananas, but the farming of animals is much more cruel, unnecessary, and destructive to the environment
sen@lemmy.zip 58 minutes ago
Wait which part of the man is the banana reliant upon
stiephelando@discuss.tchncs.de 27 minutes ago
the part where we use pesticides, fertilizer and other techniques to make sure these plants don’t die. they’re bred for usefuleness, not for surviving in the wild. this is basically true for all crops we farm
db2@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
“Farmers are weird therefore vegans aren’t”
🤦♂️
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
“this image clearly shows weirder things than any vegan does”
obre@lemmy.world 51 minutes ago
ITT: Animal abuse apologia
ghost@literature.cafe 56 minutes ago
The posters here are the same types of men who used to argue that enslaved human beings weren’t ‘people,’ merely property to do with as they pleased.
Yes, there are savagely callous, rather unintelligent and spiritually devoid humans who claim that cows - and by implication all other non-human beings - are not ‘people,’ but it doesn’t make it true. It just betrays their own barbaric stupidity.
The argument that non-human animals do not share some vague set of traits that make humans the only species worthy of being classified as ‘people,’ is small-minded and ignorant, and based on outdated, biased and anthropocentric beliefs.
Cows are beings - like all mammals - who share the same kind of social bonds, care and love for family and community that humans share. They live complex emotional lives. They ARE ‘people,’ just as whales (who ARE legally recognized as having personhood), dolphins, elephants and primates are ‘people.’
Unfortunately we live in a society that more readily ascribes personhood to a sociopathic corporation than it does living, loving beings who nurture their young, suffer and grieve, and deserve to live lives of dignity as much as any human does.
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MrSelfDestruct25@fedinsfw.app 2 hours ago
Serious question, wouldn’t cows and chickens basically become extinct if we didn’t use them for food? Cows can’t reproduce on their own and chickens would be easily killed by wild animals.
THE_World_Wide_Web@lemmy.org 3 minutes ago
I got predators all around me. Couldn’t keep guineas because of it. Most ducks don’t make it here either. But I have had plenty of chickens avoid predators and survive without my help. People dump their roosters here. And while they can’t typically fly, they can roost up in a tree at night for safety or hang out in a group and alert each other of danger.
gigachad@piefed.social 2 hours ago
Most of the animals are bred sick just to maximize production. The answer to your question is self regulation - the amount of animals we are producing is absolutely unnatural. It is not like millions of chickens would populate the world if we wouldn’t exist. They are artificially fabricated in factories.
Why should a cow bred for maximizing milk production should exist and what should they do, jump around in the fields? A normal cow from some decades ago could get older than 20, while they are nowadays bred to produce as much milk as possible and die within 5-6 years.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
They don’t die in 5-6 years, they stop producing milk in high quantities and are slaughtered and used as low quality beef.
astraeus@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
Well, would you rather go extinct or be born just to live a life of misery, forever
kilgore_trout@feddit.it 2 hours ago
There are more chickens on Earth than humans. I understand your question is hypotetical, but it is more likely we humans are going extinct before chickens.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Veganism is unnatural because we’re all omnivores, and evolved eating both plants and animals.
Impregnating cows this way is also unnatural.
Both can be true.
mech@feddit.org 3 minutes ago
Except, you know, the vegans.
bearboiblake@pawb.social 33 minutes ago
Fun fact, we evolved to eat raw meat, that’s why we have an appendix. Then, when we stopped eating raw meat, we started to evolve away from the appendix.
Evolutionary arguments don’t support the naturalist fallacy, because evolution doesn’t work like that. It responds to environmental pressures. It’s not some guiding light for what we’re “meant” to be doing, it’s the tools we’ve got to support what we already did.