bearboiblake
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- Comment on Tulsa police pepper sprayed children for walking out/protesting 1 day ago:
ACAB. Cops are on the side of the ruling class. Expect to see increasing violence from them as we push back more and more against the Epstein-supporting ruling class.
For any cops out there, you should resign and get a job which actually helps society.
- Comment on Mike Hardaker accuses Reddit of holding organic posting ‘hostage’ unless he buys ads, shares email screenshot 2 days ago:
Yeah, moderators can’t do sitewide bans, only Reddit administrators (employees) can do it.
- Comment on Stereotyping is wrong. 2 days ago:
Yes, I understood the joke, my comment was also a joke that it could be interpreted as “my sister and my husband”
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 2 days ago:
Yes, obviously, we all agree on that today, but at the time, that wasn’t widely accepted.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 2 days ago:
Yep, nazi shit. Fuck off.
- Comment on So... which one do I choose? 2 days ago:
Just a heads up, you may wanna reconsider this well-intended comment because it kinda reads like you’re suggesting that child abuse is top tier at first glance
- Comment on Mike Hardaker accuses Reddit of holding organic posting ‘hostage’ unless he buys ads, shares email screenshot 2 days ago:
Oh, no, I didn’t give a shit, I burned through Reddit accounts like nobody’s business. The fact that the admin was so triggered as to sit there, banning and unbanning me, just to spam me with notifications, was the greatest possible reward I could have ever asked for.
First thing I did on the new account was report the exact same post. Didn’t get banned.
- Comment on Stereotyping is wrong. 2 days ago:
They made a lot of those T-Shirts, they were on sale at Walmart, twenty for $3.
- Comment on Stereotyping is wrong. 2 days ago:
I think he means his sister reads salon and his husband is racist and also his husband and his sister are in a relationship too, it’s a classic polycule isotope.
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- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
I am honestly and genuinely trying to help you out here. I used to struggle to accept when I was wrong about something because it made me feel stupid, but in reality, people actually respect you a lot more when you demonstrate that you can admit when you’re wrong about things.
You don’t need to concede the whole argument, just a simple “oh yeah, you’re right, the first part was definitely wrong, but I stand by the second part” would be a solid step in the right direction.
Anyways, feel free to take my advice or not, I don’t really care about the thing you’re arguing about, I just saw someone who I thought I could maybe help avoid some of the problems I had in life.
All the best!
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
They’re more than welcome to reply and correct the record if they disagree with my assumption. I am very comfortable with my arguments, I think they’re very compelling and persuasive, but I appreciate the candid and constructive feedback. All the best! <3
- Comment on Political leaning 3 days ago:
Looking forward to US’s cultural revolution and the Great Drive Forward.
- Comment on Mike Hardaker accuses Reddit of holding organic posting ‘hostage’ unless he buys ads, shares email screenshot 3 days ago:
Once I got banned like a thousand times within the span of 5 minutes because I reported a pro-Trump post as child abuse. I assume it really triggered some admin.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
Wait, are you saying that earth is overpopulated, now? I didn’t realize I was in conversation with a nazi, but honestly, it explains a lot. Which ethnic group do you want to exterminate?
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
I appreciate you dude
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
Thanks for the reply and for your ongoing civility, I really appreciate that you seem genuinely interested in having a conversation about this.
You don’t need to explain to me about the horrors of the electronics industry, I’ve been an activist opposing extractive industries since my teen years, but of course I’m glad you’re raising awareness of it. Heck in my recent comment history I was talking about how I am opposed to EV vehicles and advocating for (green) hydrogen fuel cells due to rare earth extractionism.
I believe that extractionism can never be perfect (i.e. it will always cause some harm) but it’s possible to have a mining industry without slavery, murder, etc. and which is ran as ethically as possible to minimize harm on individuals and the environment. As I mentioned in my last comment as well the disposal and recycling of electronics is a massive issue which also needs to be addressed, as well as disposable/single-use electronic products and planned obsolescence.
On the other hand, animal agriculture NEEDS animals to die, and it needs them to die on such a scale that we NEED an industrial approach. I think you could make a pretty compelling argument that an individual hunting animals to feed their family is somewhat ethical (this isn’t my position btw, just making the point for the sake of discussion), but that can’t really scale up and remain ethical. At a certain point you need to keep the animals in shitty living conditions because otherwise the supply/demand curve would make animal products inaccessibly expensive for regular consumption.
My main question is how do people seem to be able to decide they can live with limbless kid electronics but slave labour clothes are too far, cartel avocado’s are an unfortunate necessity but meat is monstrous.
For electronics, I think the biggest reason is the second one I mentioned: it’s not really possible to avoid them. Personally I always try to buy everything second hand that I can, especially electronics, but I don’t think it’s really fair or sustainable to expect everyone to do that, someone has to buy it new to begin with.
A better comparison is blood diamonds. They’re entirely optional and the ethical alternative is widely available and cheaper. I think you’d be well within your rights to say that a vegan who insists on blood diamonds is hypocritical. I don’t think a vegan using a second-hand cellphone is hypocritical. If they always buy the latest phone I would say that’s back to being hypocritical again.
And yeah, scale is a big factor. Over 150,000,000,000 animals are slaughtered in the animal agriculture industry every year. The scale is beyond staggering. Since becoming vegan nearly six years ago, according to the Cowculator app, my personal consumption has resulted in:
- 8,727,645 fewer litres of water used
- 42,783 fewer kilograms of grain used
- 5,842 fewer square meters of deforestation
- 19,015 fewer kilograms of CO₂
- 2,096 fewer animals slaughtered
The animal agriculture industry is one of the most polluting, most wasteful industries on the planet. It’s absolutely mind-warping once you get into the numbers.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
Vegans don’t want to force anything on anyone. What we want to do is to persuade people to change their minds. I believe wholeheartedly that veganism as a majority position is inevitable. In the past, the idea that black women would be allowed to vote was more unthinkable than majority veganism is now. History trends towards progressivism.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
You wrote
vegan diet is literally making people crazy
You were wrong about that, just walk it back dude, it’s not a big deal, it’s okay to be wrong about things.
Also, people with anxiety and depression aren’t widely considered to be “crazy”.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
in a few million years vegans are going to be too stupid to make the choice for themselves and will return to consuming meat because they’re omnivorous.
You need to go back in time and eat more meat so you can be smart enough to not comment stupid shit. I love the idea that millions of years of eating a vegan diet humanity wouldn’t evolve to adapt better to the vegan diet. It’s very funny.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
L + ratio + touch grass
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
I did make an assumption that if you asked them if it’s okay for someone to rape their dog, they would have said no.
I thought that was a pretty safe assumption to make, as I personally would like to believe that being opposed to raping dogs is a shared value for humanity.
Is having cognitive dissonance somehow worse than being a dog rapist to you? I genuinely don’t understand what you might be trying to get at, here.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
Did you know that one of the common methods of turning pigs into pork is to lower them into a chamber filled with carbon dioxide so that the pigs asphyxiate to death? They scream out in agony while dying. Pigs are as intelligent as dogs, if not moreso.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
I’m not fooling myself into thinking that eating vegan or growing my food organically means nothing or no one suffered.
There isn’t any vegan out there who believes that. The point of veganism isn"t to be perfect, it’s to reduce harm as much as practically possible.
Of course I am in favor of sustainable farming practices and minimizing use of fossil fuel industry products, but even with all of that factored in, the social/environmental impact of a vegan diet is hugely reduced, compared to a meat-eater’s diet, and significantly healthier with massively reduced risk of heart disease and cancer among other conditions. That’s not really a solid reason to go vegan IMO, I think animal welfare is the only reason that matters, but it’s a nice bonus I guess.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
I am, the comparison is extremely apt. An entire group of thinking, feeling, sentient, living creatures, exploited for profit. We look down on them as being beneath us, and a culture that normalizes beating, raping and killing them. Living beings, treated as property. They are slaves. Lots of people like to believe that if they had lived during slavery, they would have been against it. This is the modern equivelent.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
Dude, I never, ever wrote that there would be no competition for resources like land. That’s fucking obvious. That doesn’t make life a “zero sum game”, a zero sum game means that every gain is someone elses’ loss, and that at the end of the game there are no new resources created. That is strictly not true. We can take actions in life which benefit us without harming others.
In real life, humans have rights, but we also take a balanced view of rights when there are conflicts. For example, if we need to build some important infrastructure, that takes priority over the rights of whoever is living where that infrastructure needs to go. My argument is that the rights of animals not to be killed is more important than our desire to have a tasty meal. I’m not out here arguing we shouldn’t build wind turbines because of their negative impacts on wildlife, because I know the positive impacts on countering climate change is better overall.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
It’s amazing what people will refuse to comprehend when their salary depends on them not understanding it, isn’t it?
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
I advocate for humanity to live in harmony and balance with our environment, that is why I am anti-imperialist and anti-capitalist as well as vegan. Our history is plagued with exploitation, that can’t be denied, but I am trying to change it and you are arguing that it cannot be changed and that we shouldn’t even try.
Humanity’s relationship with animals and nature has historically been exploitative but it doesn’t need to be that way.
We have vastly increased our ability to produce food. There are ample resources available on the planet for all of us to share and live in abundance. Human greed and selfishness is rewarded by our society.
I reject your argument that life is a zero-sum game. My happiness does not need to come at the expense of another’s unhappiness. We can all work together to create a better future for all living things on our planet.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
That’s exactly how people justified slavery in the past, and it is how the person I replied to justified their argument. That’s my entire point. It’s the same argument.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
Oh yeah, I’m sure the entire meat industry would continue to produce meat that nobody paid for just so they could let it all rot. If you want to eat meat, go ahead, but stop fucking lying to yourself about what you are responsible for. Every time you eat meat, a living creature suffered and died for it. That is the reality and you should accept it.