Doom 2016 was the peak. Eternal had that one song that kicked ass but that was mostly it.
‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game
Submitted 7 hours ago by Hubi@feddit.org to games@lemmy.world
https://www.404media.co/doom-the-dark-ages-drm-is-locking-out-linux-users-who-bought-the-game/
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vga@sopuli.xyz 55 minutes ago
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Yet more evidence that the smartest thing you can do if the game comes from a AAA studio is hold off on buying it for 6-12 months.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 30 minutes ago
If the game comes with Denuvo, never, ever buy it.
yesman@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Just another reason to wait long after release to buy a game. Denuvo charges games companies to administer the DRM infrastructure and most developers will strip it out of their games after it’s been out for a while.
Buying games on launch is one of the most anti-customer experiences you can get. And that’s saying something in our wonderful capitalist economy
piefood@feddit.online 1 hour ago
Patient gamers represent! The older I get, the less I care about FOMO. The less I care about FOMO, the happier I am. It's a beautiful cycle.
/me goes back to playing snes games on an emulator
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Yeah, there’s so many good games and so little time, I don’t understand how anyone wouldn’t have a big backlog anyway.
TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
Buying a game post-launch:
- Better prices; often on sale.
- Fixed and patched up.
- Extra content often included.
- DRM often removed.
No brainer, imo.
Agrivar@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
You forgot a bonus point:
- Hardware requirements are now easier/cheaper to meet/exceed.
endeavor@sopuli.xyz 2 hours ago
Preordering games: I need this digital product before jt goes up in price or runs out of copies!
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Pirating single player games is unfortunately the way to go, considering you BUY a single player game and STILL get fucked on it.
CybranM@feddit.nu 6 hours ago
Disagree, like yesman (lol) said it’s best to wait. I’m not that worried about playing games day one but I still want to sort the Devs, after they’ve patched out the bugs and removed DRM preferably
Sabin10@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
They also typically go on really good sales right around the time denuvo gets removed.
secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 6 hours ago
Refund and wait for a crack. Fuck Denuvo and fuck Bethesda for using them
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
That probably explains all of the crashes reported by windows users too. ID Software what happened? You were supposed to be the chosen one.
endeavor@sopuli.xyz 19 minutes ago
You must really fucking hate composers or not play games if you think ID is a contender for the best game studio.
Turturtley@aussie.zone 1 hour ago
Owned by zenimax, owned by microsoft. Same owners of activision blizzard. Shafted Mick Gordon. So this is kinda 100% as expected.
Jax@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
Gonna be honest, if Dark Ages represents the future of Doom: Doom died with Eternal. I’ve played probably 75% of the game and it’s enough to turn me off of every future title.
hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.org 2 hours ago
doom past doom 2 never felt like doom anyhow.
bassomitron@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Hard disagree. Doom Eternal was a rhythm game disguised as an FPS and I hated it. It’s crazy to me how widely acclaimed it was even over Doom 2016, which I thought was amazing. I’m glad they shifted back towards a more grounded FPS style that doesn’t force you to juggle your entire weapon arsenal nonstop the entire game.
Jax@sh.itjust.works 25 minutes ago
A rhythm game?
Who did you get that from? Doom Eternal is in no way a rhythm game, weapon swapping was no different from 2016 to DE. The only enemy that ‘requires’ it is the marauder and god forbid you need to switch between two weapons.
No, better to strip everything that made Doom good - down to the fucking double jump. Bad joke.
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
I really enjoyed 2016, couldn’t get into Eternal though. I’m definitely going to hold off on this new one until it’s been out longer and goes on sale, unless it gets standing ovations. Then, if I don’t like it I haven’t lost much.
Luffy879@lemmy.ml 51 minutes ago
Could you elaborate on the „rythm game“ part?
I get that eternal was way more saturated and faster, but Rythm?
nuko147@lemm.ee 43 minutes ago
I believe it depends on the player’s personal playstyle. I’ve played Doom 3, Doom 2016, and Doom Eternal. Doom 3 is for fans of horror-focused FPS games, Doom 2016 offers action at a normal pace, and Doom Eternal feels like a high-speed dance.
I’ll try Dark Ages next year, but I think if they had added even more mechanics than the Eternal had, the game might be more like an RPG than an FPS.
Jax@sh.itjust.works 24 minutes ago
Dark ages is a dumbed down version of doom 2016. That is the best way I can describe it.
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
Doom died with Ethernal. Dark Ages is just more of that decline.
slumberlust@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
What don’t you like about it?
Jax@sh.itjust.works 34 minutes ago
Every single encounter is braindead. There are like 8 true demons. There are 3-4 weapons (the others are worthless), and literally never a reason to use any of them but the impaler and the BFC (which is functionally completely different than the BFG).
I have not used my brain for any of the encounters. I throw my shield to deal with checks notes 80% of the encounter, spamming parry and impaler headshots to simply annihilate every boss or even remotely threatening enemy.
The game is fucking boring.
giacomo@lemm.ee 5 hours ago
anti-consumer feature is anti-consumer. more news at 11
tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 6 hours ago
Looks like sailing is back on the menu, boys!
ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 hours ago
It’s not, newest Doom has Denuvo
tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 6 hours ago
We’ll get it, comrade.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Sailing is back on the menu once Empress decides, I guess? Is Empress still the only one cracking Denuvo, or has the Denuvo Cracking scene changed much in the last 5-10 years? I don’t really keep up with it much.
newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Well cool, now I know not to pick up the game yet.
td_sp@lemmynsfw.com 5 hours ago
but the linux circlejerk swears game support is on par with windows!
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
And the windows circlejerk says private, secure, performant OSes that also play most games are trash not worth trying. Hm.
bassomitron@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
I’m not a huge Linux stan, but it’s pretty damn close to it. I rarely run into compatibility issues, and when I do, there’s a very high chance a workaround exists. Hell, there’s even times when a game actually runs smoother on Linux.
In regards to the topic at hand, Denuvo’s activation limit fucks over Windows users, too. It just happens far more often due to the compatibility layer (e.g. proton, wine, etc) making it look like it’s a new computer trying to access the Denuvo servers for a game each time you change it when testing (e.g. proton v8, v9, experimental, etc).
vividspecter@lemm.ee 4 hours ago
It’s because of testing the game on different versions of Proton, which is treated as a hardware change. The fault lies entirely with Denuvo, and with anti-consumer DRM in general.
catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works 2 hours ago
You seem like a sad and angry person
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Rule 1 of Lemmy: Worship Linux, or be subjected to poor treatment, unfortunately.
CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
It is, except for the ones that come with built in APTs.
zecg@lemmy.world 2 minutes ago
While it has Denuvo it can get fucked, they’ll remove it in a few years, I’m a very patient gamer with a family group that has 1.5k games in library.