One death is coincidental, two is suspicious, any more and it’s gonna become plainly obvious, and now there’s 10. That’s just delicious. They can’t silence them all.
Is Boeing in big trouble? World's largest aerospace firm faces 10 more whistleblowers after sudden death of two
Submitted 6 months ago by Dragxito@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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ramble81@lemm.ee 6 months ago
magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 6 months ago
1 dead whistleblower is a tragedy. 10 dead whistleblowers are a statistic.
bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
It certainly warrants investigation, but the way the second guy died is actually not particularly suspicious. He got pneumonia, then he got MRSA in a hospital. 50,000-100,000 people every year get MRSA in a hospital setting, almost always people of his demographic with pneumonia, and it is incredibly lethal. We have upwards of 10,000 deaths a year due to it. Again, almost all casualties are his demographic.
octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
So in other words, very plausible deniability.
allthatsinteresting.com/heart-attack-gun
We had that tech in 1968. I’m pretty sure it would be a matter of a phone call and some change from the couch cushions for Boeing to create that outcome.
Does this mean they did it? No.
Does it warrant the reaction folks are having about it? Absolutely yes.
Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 6 months ago
And it is suspected that thousand of elderly people are murdered every year, but it is ruled as a natural death, because the demographic is prone to natural deaths and nobody bothers to check further.
At the very least demanding a throughout investigation in both cases is absolutely reasonable.
fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 6 months ago
The first wasn’t coincidental. He said “hey they might murder me” then he died right before testifying.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Well, iirc he didn’t show for his deposition, or the day after, or the day after that, at which point the lawyers sent people to find him and found he “committed suicide”.
This is after he said “I am absolutely not going to commit suicide over this. If I die and people say it was suicide, I was killed.”
unreasonabro@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Even one death under these circumstances is not a coincidence, and that ought to be coded into law. You’d better fucking well hope the person who blows a whistle on you is healthy - that’s the world we should move into.
agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 6 months ago
Can’t or won’t?
Seriously, though, I wouldn’t be surprised, if a bunch of suicides or “retractions” are happening soon.
How about 2 million if you shut up? No? How about we publish this dirt on you? Would be a shame, if some nameless robber orphans your children.
Veneroso@lemmy.world 6 months ago
How is your polonium tea comrade?
Got_Bent@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Planely obvious
PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Any serious issue should have a paper trail of some sort. Emails, meetings, part rejections, that sort of thing. There are processes in place to allow anonymous reporting of some of these things.
Siegfried@lemmy.world 6 months ago
But you wont argue that 10 dead whistblowers can still be a tremendous coincidence, right?
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I still don’t see why they can’t.
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Gotta love my fellow millennials - battered old souls that only the offer of getting murdered gets us properly motivated.
Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
Most of us see that as a perk. “Wait, I can die right now, painlessly? Like totally painless? Where do I sign up?”
pachrist@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I mean, if the choice is instant, painless death or decade after decade of your parents asking why you don’t own a house, I guess death is fine?
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I mean, I dont care abut pain as much as time - like I would settle for something interesting, like getting sucked off to death … into a jet engine at max speed.
Shou@lemmy.world 6 months ago
This seems to be a recurring trend. Human rights took more blood than ink to write.
MrBusiness@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 6 months ago
The hitperson is the only competent employee left at Boeing.
applepie@kbin.social 6 months ago
That guy is booked through year end now.
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Overbooked. This is the airline industry we’re talking about.
Assman@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
He’s out there playing whack a mole
gregorum@lemm.ee 6 months ago
You could just say ‘assassin’
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 6 months ago
“Hitperson” makes it sound like some HR-designated position, awkwardly titled in some neutral, milquetoast way as not to offend anyone.
That was intentional, I’m happy someone noticed.
cornshark@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Senior PR executive
sparr@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Article author seems to have completely fabricated the “10 more”. There are no quotes from anyone even hinting at more whistleblowers existing, let alone ten more.
Serinus@lemmy.world 6 months ago
hindustantimes.com
Is not a source I’m familiar with. But everyone wants to believe it, so upvotes it is.
Shialac@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Its one of the largest Indian Newspapers
GladiusB@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Probably because quoting them would be a preemptive death
Agent641@lemmy.world 6 months ago
octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
How do I so strongly recognize this but can’t recall what it’s from!!??
loutr@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
It’s a pretty popular GIF taken from the movie Hot Fuzz.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Wow, ten more suicidal people that really want to off themselves and also suddenly all started talking about Boeing, all at the same time. They’ll also all off themselves in the coming weeks.
What are the chances of that happening?
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Boeing deliberately on hires people with suicidal tendencies. It’s a non-negotiable character trait.
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Isn’t there a 100% correlation rate previous to these 10?
medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
For real. If ever there were a time to hop on an Amtrak, I think this would be a good one.
thescoutisaspy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s okay, they are all going to commit suicide by jumping off together. The plane will have no issues.
yamanii@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They can’t possibly kill them all right?
rustyfish@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Hold on! A SECOND whistleblower died?!
Wiz@midwest.social 6 months ago
Boeing: “Two down, ten to go!”
JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“what are they going to do, kill all of us?” - dead whistleblower
blazera@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Goddamn when are investigators gonna hear these whistles?
Hector_McG@programming.dev 6 months ago
“the sudden announcement of Boeing CEO Dave Calhoun’s resignation by the end of 2024 was interpreted as a response to the company’s persistent safety issues.”
I hope Boeing has serious bonus claw-backs in their contracts, because this idiot’s “cost-savings” have actually cost Boeing a fortune, and destroyed their reputation. The entire board should go.
Onii-Chan@kbin.social 6 months ago
It'll be such a surprise when it turns out all 10 have been suicidal for years and/or extremely susceptible to infection.
Shadywack@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I remember thinking movies just had absurd sensationalized plot lines and that our societies were past that shit. Then I saw former soviets killed by alpha particle emitting pills, whistleblowers dying, and now I’m thinking the truth is stranger than fiction.
Hang in there Edward Snowden, it’s amazing that fucker threaded the needle and still lives.
prettydarknwild@lemmy.world 6 months ago
whistleblower hunting season for boeing
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 months ago
If we had a functioning government they’d already be bankrupt or in the hands of a legit oversight authority, rather than allowed to continue to run a blatantly corrupt and dangerous enterprise.
EvilEyedPanda@lemmy.world 6 months ago
If you see something, say something… and get shot.
rem26_art@fedia.io 6 months ago
at this point, Boeing's gonna need a defense contractor's worth of weapons to deal with all of these whistleblowers... oh wait.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
They are just looking to open some doors, mid flight.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“Cut off one head and FIVE more will take its place.”
Boeing is about to engage in the most desperate game of whack-a-mole ever.
egeres@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I feel terrible for all the work boeing’s hitman is going to have to do this week 🤦🏻♂️
Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 months ago
“A lot of holes in the desert, and a lot of problems are buried in those holes. But you gotta do it right. I mean, you gotta have the hole already dug before you show up with a package in the trunk. Otherwise, you’re talking about a half-hour to forty-five minutes worth of digging. And who knows who’s gonna come along in that time? Pretty soon, you gotta dig a few more holes. You could be there all fuckin’ night.”
Audacious@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I hope there won’t be a series of unfortunate accidents…
PenisWenisGenius@lemmynsfw.com 6 months ago
Death by cop is getting replaced with death by corporation.
reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 6 months ago
10 more whistleblowers
My condolences to their family in these trying times.
My condolences to their family in these trying times.
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My condolences to their family in these trying times.
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My condolences to their family in these trying times.
My condolences to their family in these trying times.
My condolences to their family in these trying times.
My condolences to their family in these trying times.
My condolences to their family in these trying times.
moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
You can’t fly over a Streisand effect.
argh_another_username@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Hey, I heard Boeing is hiring assassins. It’s in high demand!
CodeHead@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 6 months ago
If you ever hear anyone talking about how humans suck and we’re all terrible and will definitely destroy ourselves, just think about the fact that killing whistleblowers was quickly followed by more whistleblowers. Not just lone heros, but ten fucking people said, “hey, fuck you, are you really gonna kill me too?” knowing that the answer could well be “yes”.
EatATaco@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Funny, just yesterday probably I was arguing with someone in another thread that was saying the people here don’t actually think Boeing had these whistleblowers killed, it was just making “implications and jokes.”
And here, very clearly, with a massive number of upvotes we have someone claiming that Boeing had them killed and that resulted in brave souls coming out afterward. lol
However, this also exposes another huge complaint I have with your typical lemmy-er (lemming? lemmite? what do you call a user of lemmy?): Almost no one reads the fucking article.
This isn’t about new whistleblowers coming out, but their lawyer claiming he is afraid that current whistle blowers will be “scared away.”
But, of course, what I’ve learned on reddit and even more so on lemmy is that the facts don’t matter, only the narrative.
natarey@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You are describing the human species.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Same as it ever was
Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yes, varying people have different opinions on subjects. It is easy to think a comment with upvotes is the way the hivemind goes, but the hivemind has multiple factions.
I, personally, hace no opinion on the matter. The dude was septic and had a stroke. While it seems unlikely that was murder, I guess it is possible if you have infinite resources to make it look natural. But that is one HELL of a coincidence to have two whistle-blowers die . … like. … pretty fucking insane. Watch these next ten all die and no one important bats an eye.
Rookwood@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yes but our current society vests power in the corporation doing the killing. It’s a problem as old as civilization, but one we still haven’t solved. The problem is that these institutions and the technology they wield has never been greater.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 6 months ago
We need an impartial lawnmower. Something external to the species that comes in and cuts the biggest ones in half. And it needs to be incorruptible and powerful enough to do this.
Damn, I think I just invented god again.
Tja@programming.dev 6 months ago
I invite to read history. Roman generals, European kings…
bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
The tinfoil hat quantity on lemmy is almost as bad as /r/conspiracy. Yall need to stop parroting this nonsense without evidence of foul play.
parpol@programming.dev 6 months ago
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
There is plenty of evidence of foul play you smartass. They willingly risked lives over many years and are still currently flying many planes with defective unsafe parts. Going from that to assasination is not a big leap.
Multiple of the whistleblowers and their colleagues have also independently said that their workplace was directly and deliberately sabotaged in order to continue using defective parts.
Rooskie91@discuss.online 6 months ago
Even if the dude that “killed himself” did do it to himself, he did so because he was harassed by a company for doing his job. Even in the non conspiracy version of the story, the corporation still acted in bad faith and should be held liable for it’s actions. Why is this the hill you want to die on?
Hegar@kbin.social 6 months ago
It's very naive to think that a weapons dealer who also kills it's commercial airline passengers for profit isn't also killing whistleblowers.
rusticus@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Nice try Boeing
woop_woop@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m on your side dude, the response here is kinda nuts.
the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Bolexforpoop back wih pigshit again. The reason i don’t block you is your neverending entertainment value. Keep posting king.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
2 people dying is kind of fishy.
Cheskaz@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I needed to see this, just in general, today
EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I mean If it was an organized thing then I’m not sure it’s so dumb
They can kill two people but if ten more people die it would look really bad on there part and would become undeniable
tonyn@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
It already looks really bad
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I don’t know seems like everyone I know is convinced that the first two murders were coincidence. What is keeping 10 more being that way?
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I was talking to someone the other day who was really bent out of shape over an extremely unpleasant customer. The kind of interaction that sticks with you for years.
I told my perspective on people. We tend to remember remarkable things - stuff that really stands out from the normal. The news media does the same thing. Normal, everyday stuff isn’t “newsworthy.”
So when an asshole customer stands out that much, it’s because it’s such a rare experience. People are mostly good, so the goodness doesn’t stand out.
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 6 months ago
Yeah, bad customers can ruin your day, but I remember doing customer service that one good customer with a nice smile can make your day good again. That’s why I always make an effort to be as nice as possible.
systemglitch@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Anyone saying humans suck and are terrible is likely a terrible person themselves. Decent people tend to see the better aspect of humanity.
Sanguine@lemmy.world 6 months ago
This is a leap. You can be a good person and also see that people as a whole can be both wonderful and absolutely terrible. This is a story about a mega corp murdering two whistleblowers, so far. In this case, the people involved in making this a headline suck and are terrible.
pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Counterpoint. There was one whistleblower killed, there are lots of people on this case like Boeing staff, government employees, the police, senators, the president, who haven’t done shit. Now there are two murders. Any of the people who SHOULD be doing something about it doing anything? No. Now there are 12 brave people against the thousands of shit people.