Valve Announces New Steam Machine, Steam Controller & Steam Frame

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Also listed here: store.steampowered.com/sale/hardware

Valve has already sent support for the new Steam Controller upstream: www.phoronix.com/news/New-Steam-Controller-SDL

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CaptainBasculin@lemmy.bascul.in ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Ah yes, the gabecube

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- victorz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Me in 2001 with a stuffed nose:
  
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  - SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Stuffed because that cute person didn’t like me back cause they were busy blowing all their inheritance from their estranged uncle that died when the towers fell.
    
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- samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Steam Deck was the Gabe Gear, this is the Gabecube, all we need now is a smaller Steam Deck - the Gabe Boy.
  
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  - 1Fuji2Taka3Nasubi@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Well, you do have the Gabe Virtual Boy.
    
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- Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  They really need to sell these in Walmart next to the Playstation. It’ll be the year of the Linux desktop!
  
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  - Minnels@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I am European but no. That would increase the price and i believe valve wants to sell as cheap as possible.
    
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- rindo25@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I thought it was the okama gabe sphere. It’s spherical!
  
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GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The announcement did not include Copilot? No mention of 300 useless AI features being shoved down our throats??!

It’s wild how by virtue of the fact that Valve isn’t a publicly traded company beholden to shareholders, Valve which has a history of putting out half-baked goods, Valve which has an always-on DRM client called Steam, seems poised to surpass most of its competitors both in the user privacy and hardware hardware space with just straightforward products.

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- halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  That’s because they make an insane amount of money by taking 30% of every sale on their platform, which nearly everyone uses because they’re a near monopoly and the alternatives are terrible. Around $3.5 Million per employee, nearly 5x the next highest company, which is Facebook at around $780,000 per employee.
  
  pcgamer.com/…/valves-reported-profit-per-head-fro…
  
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  - ysjet@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I should note that 30% is incredibly standard in the industry, and Valve offers a LOT more for that 30% than literally any other digital publisher. Physical publishers take substantially more, and the only digital store that offers less is EGS, which is simultaneously absolute dogshite and also has been trying very, very hard to astroturd the ‘30%’ thing for ages.
    
    Nintendo, Sony, and Apple all take 30%. I think MS does as well, but don’t quote me on that one.
    
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  - JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It’s fucking wild. Like, I love Steam, don’t get me wrong, but holy shit just suck less and charge less and you could gobble up a lot of that market share. But none of them do.
    
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  - WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    Around $3.5 Million per employee, nearly 5x the next highest company, which is Facebook at around $780,000 per employee.
    
    that’s a bullshit metric only useful to incite hatred. why the fuck do you want to say that valve is “this many times worse than facebook!”? it is obviously false.
    
    only thing this proves is that they have relatively few employees. which also probably means that most of them do real work instead of being overloaded with managers
    
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  - CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    You‘re getting downvotes for no reason. Also anyone who ever had to contact Steam support felt how criminally understaffed they are so it makes sense they make tons of money per employee I guess.
    
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  - Lfrith@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    As if normal for companies to say you know what we are getting enough profits lets not monetize things even more.
    
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- explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It feels like just yesterday that VR was the big hype tech.
  
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  - Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    VR is so fucking cool tho
    
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  - noxypaws@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    VR has actual staying power though. It genuinely adds a lot to a game or a simulation. VRchat especially is like a deeply emotional thing to folks who don’t feel like they belong in their real bodies and can exist in VR a more true representation of themself
    
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- brachiosaurus@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  They need their products to be as clean as possible to hook people into microtransactions and their proprietary platform. Valve is a for profit company and the ceo owns a fleet of mega yachts
  
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Donjuanme@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The VR headset is going to be standalone??

That’s pretty nuts right?

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- Blaster_M@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  even more nuts is that it will support pc games via FEX, an emulation layer that runs x86 windows games on ARM in Linux
  
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  - Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Crazy…
    
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- iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Any ideas on Linux support?
  
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  - vodka@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    They talked about streaming VR games from the SteamOS based steam machine to it.
    
    So with that I’d assume we’re finally getting some much needed progress to SteamVR on linux.
    
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  - aski3252@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    The headset itself is running linux and it is meant to be used with the steam machine, which also runs on linux.
    
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  - chrash0@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    pretty sure it’s SteamOS, an Arch Linux derivative, on a fairly popular Snapdragon platform. probably not too difficult to hack on it.
    
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  - echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    My understanding from the video is that the headset will run SteamOS itself.
    
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  - Euphoma@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Its a standalone headset that runs steamos.
    
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Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
There are a lot of specs missing from what the streets were hoping for from the holy grail of VR headsets, but I’m starting to believe that they are not going for that. It seems they want to win in the mid-range market competing directly with Meta. Honestly, “Quest 3 without Meta” is already very compelling. I guess it’s not all down to how competitively they decide to price it. “Cheaper than Index” is already good news for my wallet at least.

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- melfie@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I believe the cost of Meta devices is also subsidized by surveillance capitalism, so if this costs more, doesn’t spy on you, and lets you do whatever you want with your own hardware, then it’s worth voting with your wallet. If Valve somehow is able to price this similarly to a Quest 3 while having better specs and without exploiting their customers like Meta does, then all hail the great and mighty Gabe.
  
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  - e461h@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Personal privacy is always worth the cost. The ‘subsidies’ can go away anytime, so better to not be locked into an expensive spyware platform to begin with.
    
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- magic_lobster_party@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  ”Quest 3 without Meta” is what I’ve been dreaming about. I feel like Steam Frame could be my entry to the VR space, if the price is decent.
  
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- Randelung@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I just recently upgraded from my OG Vive because I didn’t want an inside out tracking or wireless, but… let’s see what the price is and if the thing is actually as good in real world conditions as Linus makes it look. I might just try those pancake lenses (because the Vive Pro 2 lenses are bad).
  
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- Cooper8@feddit.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I don’t see it in the hardware design, but from a software perspective the groundwork is there for modularity. Offloading the core compute to the PC frees up onboard processing to run peripherals like full color front cameras (onboard are black and white / IR) and more advance proximity detection, hell hook up lidar and go nuts with full body tracking.
  
  That said, all of that would depend on decent I/O. 2x USB4 ports would go a long way.
  
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  - Cooper8@feddit.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    https://youtu.be/dU3ru09HTng?si=PieCP6UcXKjk_Q0w
    
    Welp, looky there, an expansion port right on the bridge of the headset with PCIE compatibility.
    
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binarytobis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I used to work with a guy who worked at Valve prototyping stuff like the steam controller. He was a boomer so he complained about how people were always playing games in the break room and what not. Said he hated that job, his reasons might as well have been a wishlist for my future career. If he wasn’t so damn helpful I would probably hate him to this day.

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MashedTech@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Fuck you Microsoft!

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- richardwallass@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Less concurrent is never a good thing. Steam already got too much power. xda-developers.com/valve-steam-monopoly-real-game…
  
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  - dogs0n@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Luckily unlike monopolies in other sectors, Steam doesn’t involve itself in evil oractices that more or less stops others from competing.
    
    Someone just needs to make a better store, but they can’t because no company big enough to compete is willing to be as user friendly.
    
    Epic, probably the second biggest store people thing about, can’t even make a good platform. They try underhanded practices like bribing developers and customers… maybe they should make their store work properly first.
    
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  - Corridor8031@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    this only applies to capitalists
    
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Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
2026 Year of the Linux desktop?

Surely this will bring over a lot of people to Linux

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- MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Year of the Linux living room
  
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IzzyJ@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
They missed the chance to call the machine the Steam Engine

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- theherk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I thought the GabeCube was even better.
  
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  - bigbabybilly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Aaaaalmost shot coffee out my nose. Almost.
    
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- favoredponcho@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  But they did name it after a daft punk song
  
  youtu.be/0sa2R-PM0Uk
  
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  - daggermoon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    banger
    
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  - IzzyJ@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Huh, neat. Til.
    
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- Amir@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  That would be impossible to search online
  
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- InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Fuck, they did! 😫
  
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CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Not gonna lie the controller looks ass but maybe it feels fantastic so I‘ll wait with my final judgement. I‘m interested to see how they will try to push VR since most users are still incredibly uninterested in it.

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- explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’ve wanted to get into VR for the longest time but they all seemed like extremely walled gardens. This sounds awesome to me.
  
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  - Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    For most of my life VR has been, ‘VR is a great way to experience shitty games and you just have to pay a grand or more for this interactive tummy ache, and your unit may not be supported next year! Buy!’
    
    I’m going to hold out until I can pick up one of these at the pawn shop for a bill.
    
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  - oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    The problem is to really make an informed decision you have to try it first-hand. The sensory experience unlike any other device, so descriptions aren’t super helpful, video doesn’t convey what it’s actually like, so you really have to experience it to understand it.
    
    Also given how common it seems to be anecdotally to get sick from it, no one wants to jump in just to have to jump back out.
    
    And unless you know someone that already jumped in and can try theirs, a lot of people like me just don’t want to commit sight unseen. (I mean I’m also broke, but this would be true anyway)
    
    I don’t have a way to try it out, so until I do it’s not on my radar to care. I’m very curious about it. Even if I don’t like it I do really want to see what it’s like at least once. But I’m not gonna pay for that chance. It’s gotta impress me without effort on my part (more than driving to it anyway).
    
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  - Ftumch@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’ve got a Meta Quest 2 as a hand-me-down and yes, it’s extremely locked down. It’s possible to use a third-party app store, but to make it work you have to get a developer account with Meta and enable wireless debugging.
    
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  - FatVegan@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I really want to love VR, but it’s just not for me. And i don’t think i’m alone with that. To me, VR is something you try in a mall for 20min and think it’s cool and not something you want to play around with home.
    
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  - Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I mean, you can certainly pick up a used Quest 2 if you wanted to try it out. There’s a handful of exclusive stuff in the Quest store you’d be able to use, but not much of value. Resident Evil 4 VR is about it for the Q2. I think there was a Batman game for the Q3. You’d have access to anything the Steam Frame has access to if you’re streaming from a PC.
    
    I think the PSVR2 works as well, but it’s wired only.
    
    Half Life Alyx is certainly worth a blast through.
    
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- SeventySeven@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Looks can be deceiving. Coming from someone who uses the steamdeck, that layout looks exactly how I hoped and imagined it would be. The steamdeck is incredibly comfortable to hold and this looks like it would be the same!
  
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  - CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It definitely reminds me of that Steam controller someone on Youtube built by sawing a Steamdeck in two and gluing the ends together so to speak. They said it‘s their dream controller so I‘m sure this controller already has some fans. I just can‘t tell by looking at it.
    
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- D_C@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The first controller looked the same, but was very good to use once you got used to it. The build quality, though, was…fucking terrible.
  
  I had to fix my controllers so many times that in the end I was swapping them out almost weekly. Still, felt great in the hand.
  
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  - Nalivai@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It might be you just got unlucky. Mine is still going strong all this years, and I use it often.
    
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  - titanicx@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I have the first controller, just dug it out the other day because I thought I was going to be able to use it on my new tablet, it still sucks. I never could get used to it, but it’s a far sight better looking then this thing.
    
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- nialv7@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It’s basically steam deck minus the screen. If you are used to the steam deck it’ll be fine.
  
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cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
As a Mac user with an Xbox, this thing looks like a breath of fresh air! My Xbox (Series X) is still running well, so I continue to use it, but I kinda want this Steam cube thing, if the price is right. I don’t want to buy any more products from Microsoft, and while I tolerate Xbox, I do not like Windows. (I tolerate it at work because I have to, but I’d prefer not to have to mess with it.) I could hang with Linux if I wanted to go down that road, but it looks like this will be a suitable alternative for gaming… if the price is right.

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- SacralPlexus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Steve from Gamers Nexus has a solid video where he met with people about Valve and goes into a lot of details on the announced hardware. He reported that they told him that the Steam Machine is not aiming for a console price. This made sense to him as he pointed out it’s basically an ITX computer and you can do computer things with it. Anyway I don’t know what it will cost but I’m guessing north of $500 easily.
  
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- piyuv@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’m in a similar boat. I have both PS5 and series X. Consoles are getting enshittified at an increasing pace. I welcome valve improving Linux compatibility as they invest more in their devices. I don’t think I’ll be getting Sony or Microsoft’s next consoles.
  
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- explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’ve been an Xbox user for the longest time and have been dreading them losing the latest console war. I’ve never been a huge Nintendo fan, and fuck Sony. This sounds like it’ll be my next big gaming platform.
  
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- echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  There isn’t really any point in comparing this to a games console. There would be no real point valve developing a console because pretty much all of the games on their platform expect to run on a PC so they’d end up having to emulate keyboard inputs as a lot of their library won’t really work with a controller in any logical sense, so they might as well just make a PC.
  
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MoonlitSanguine@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Hopefully the Frames can compete with the Meta Quest in both price/performance. It will be good to have relatively affordable VR headset not made by Facebook.

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- hitwright@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Considering that Quest is sold at a loss and tries to make money forcing you to buy games, I don’t think it’s likely
  
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- SeventySeven@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Wish I didnt have to wear glasses, otherwise I’d use my Index alot more.
  
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- Rooki@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It will be priced as it isnt locking you into a ecosystem like meta, so it will be of course a bit more pricey. ( rumors say roughly 1200$ )
  
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LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Valve really listened to Saejima’s advice:

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Steam Synapse when?

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Viirax@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Finally, another worthwhile controller with symmetrical sticks. Now to find out how to get my hands on one…

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- LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I typically just have one hand on each side
  
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AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I don’t like the look of this controller… I’m still gonna get one. Everything else I love.

Especially that SteamOS is apparently going to become available on ARM devices.

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nuko147@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Since the Steam Machine is more like an entry PC and not a console (and will be priced as that), does that mean that SteamOS for desktop will be officially supported?

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zer0bitz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I feel like if I use this controller those trackpads will go crazy because of my fat hands.

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AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I guess this would be the appropiate post to ask under, isnt the steam frame using a last gen flagship arm soc and running linux a huge thing? That seems like its pretty close to us being abke to run linux on a newer phone. Tho at the same time i know phones are unhinged so thats why im asking, whether this is actually a big thing.

Gabephone in 2027? /s

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GhostlyPixel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’d jump on a steam deck with updated hardware, too bad it looks like it will be staying the dame

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Corridor8031@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I hope this somehow manages to convince fortnite / ea to support it or support linux. I want to get rid of my xbox so bad.

also i am excited for the headset, i am wondering how open source it is going to be and depending on that i definilty get one (Since it runs steam os, linux is possible atleast definitly)

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Veedem@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Steam Machine is interesting. It feels like a solid time for someone to disrupt TV based gaming.

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SabinStargem@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Hopefully, this means an official release of SteamOS desktop. I want to switch away from Windows 11 IoT, if I can get a flavor of Linux with official backing from an 800lb gaming gorilla. While I can try out Bazzite or Cachy, I would prefer to have only one Linux for the rest of my PC’s life.

Would have stuck with Windows, if it weren’t for the fact that Microsoft has been channeling the spirit of an overly controlling parent.

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falseWhite@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Why does it look very uncomfortable to use? I hope it’s not.

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favoredponcho@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Steam Frame is interesting. Would love a non-Meta VR headset that doesn’t cost $1k and also doesn’t have a million wires and base stations.

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skulkbane@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Im hyped for a new vr headset.

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Toes@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’m really hoping that the price of the car headset meets or beats the Facebook models.

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ChetManly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
FEX is the most exciting thing for me!

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scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’m curious about the “it’s a PC” aspect of the Steam Box. Because a device that plays all Steam games but isn’t a Windows computer is extremely appealing, but I admit if I can’t install a few non-Steam games on it, that’s a spoiler for me. But if the whole “it’s a PC” provides some avenue to that, I’m definitely ready to stop building a gaming PC every 5 years.

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gerowen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Definitely will be grabbing the Steam Machine when it releases.

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SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Ok but HL3 wen

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hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
One question I have about the cube is will it be capable of doing full DRM streaming services like Netflix? Most living room systems have that, but doing it on an open linux system somehow would be novel.

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