Also listed here: store.steampowered.com/sale/hardware
Valve has already sent support for the new Steam Controller upstream: www.phoronix.com/news/New-Steam-Controller-SDL
Time to sell my never used old steam controller
Valve Announces New Steam Machine, Steam Controller & Steam Frame
Submitted 4 months ago by jcs@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
skaffi@infosec.pub 4 months ago
Never fear! I will happily spare you the trouble, and take that old thing off your hands - free of charge! ;D
I loved that controller. Best damn gamepad I ever had. It was a sad day when it finally gave in, and broke, last year.
taygaloocat@leminal.space 4 months ago
Glad Valve is making a console but that’s an ugly fucking controller
AldinTheMage@ttrpg.network 4 months ago
It does look very chonky, and not very aesthetically pleasing.
However, as a heavy user of the steam deck over the past year, I am super excited. The track pads and the extra inputs on the steam deck give so much flexibility to play games that otherwise wouldn’t work well with controller at all. I’m just hoping it feels better (or at least not worse) than the steam deck in terms of ergonomics. I plan on getting one for my desktop PC.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Try using Steam link with a regular controller, and put it in mouse mode. You’ll be wishing for those touch pads.
Jax@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Why would I ever do that? Ever?
Frigidlollipop@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Am I the only one who preferred the “skinnier” style of controller like the old GameCube or even N64 controllers? I loved that grip control, now it feels like we’ve been either trending towards bloated controllers like this one that suck for people with smaller hands or those tiny little joycons that hurt to use long term.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
Wii classic controller was very nice.
notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I give 0% of shit how it looks, all I care about it ease of use and performance. Track pads at your finger tips takes getting used to, but it’s a game changer for any game that isn’t classically easy to play with a controller.
LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 4 months ago
If a game isn’t easy to play with a controller then I’m probably just not going to play it with a controller to begin with honestly, track pads or no. If I have to mess with stuff in desktop mode on my steam deck then I use the pads but otherwise, I haven’t really found them useful.
melonhusk@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
it’s always a good day when valve actually releases hardware. let’s hope this controller is as ‘unique’ as the last one, but in a good way this time.
Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 4 months ago
This is an LLM bot.
ChetManly@lemmy.world 4 months ago
FEX is the most exciting thing for me!
Baggie@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Right? It’s a huge bridge between x86 and ARM, it just opened up a potentially huge market for lower power consumption gaming devices. You could have like a Gameboy that runs silksong or something.
Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
I hope this somehow manages to convince fortnite / ea to support it or support linux. I want to get rid of my xbox so bad.
also i am excited for the headset, i am wondering how open source it is going to be and depending on that i definilty get one (Since it runs steam os, linux is possible atleast definitly)
nforminvasion@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It will be able to run android apps, any steam games, and because it’s going to run Steam OS, you can run lutris or heroic launcher as well. So emulation and a whole variety of older games.
Also because it’s a stand alone, but can pair to a pc, you will be able to work straight on it with KDE desktop and whatever applications you want to run.
skulkbane@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Im hyped for a new vr headset.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Yeah, I’m debating getting this one as my first headset. It looks dope.
skulkbane@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Dooo it! If you can afford it, it will probably be a little pricey.
lobut@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Me too. I bought the first quest before Facebook acquired it. Now that Facebook/Meta own quest and stuff … I’ve been staying away from VR for now.
I’ll definitely be doing my best to get one as soon as it’s available. Everything about it sounds hype.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 4 months ago
FYI, technically Meta/Facebook had already owned Oculus for something like five years before the original Quest came out. They just started getting really blatant about the branding shortly after that time, probably to acquiesce to Zuck Zuck and his huffing of his “metaverse” crack pipe increasingly frequently.
scarabic@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’m curious about the “it’s a PC” aspect of the Steam Box. Because a device that plays all Steam games but isn’t a Windows computer is extremely appealing, but I admit if I can’t install a few non-Steam games on it, that’s a spoiler for me. But if the whole “it’s a PC” provides some avenue to that, I’m definitely ready to stop building a gaming PC every 5 years.
Archr@lemmy.world 4 months ago
If you are looking to get it or try linux gaming in general then I would recommend looking at heroic games launcher which supports games from epic, gog, and Amazon. Past that there is always a huge list of other games (and applications) available for install from lutris’ website. And bottles for specific things, but that is a bit more advanced/nuanced to setup.
racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
Allow me to be pedantic here. What you were referring to here, “PC”, stands for “personal computer”. It’s a device on where you can perform computation. Sometimes that computation is to render video streams encoded in H.264 onto the screen, and sometimes it happens to take in your control signal to alter that video stream, like video games. You are free to perform any kind of computation on it.
“PC” has no implications of Microsoft or Windows.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Insufficient pedantry detected.
The PC platform is an extension of IBM’s Personal Computer architecture, which was not a description of what it was so much as it was literally the brand name. It’s long since been forgotten that this is now a shorthand, and the full name of the platform arguably out to be PC Compatible. Unless you bought your machine from IBM, anyway, which these days would be quite the trick.
Being PC compatible was a big deal back when the original PC was also a big deal. Probably slightly less so now, since it’s the assumed default.
It should go without saying that the original IBM PC, model 5150, did not run Windows… Because Windows did not yet exist. It didn’t even necessarily run the then-nascent PC-DOS provided by Microsoft, because IBM also supported running CP/M and and UCSD Pascal on it.
The whole Windows-as-default thing didn’t happen until well after the appeal of the PC specification had escaped containment at IBM and x86 had handily taken over the desktop computing world.
A personal computer is basically anything you can stick on your desk (or lap) and doesn’t require hooking up to a mainframe to run. But a Personal Computer, capital P and C, implies an x86 compatible platform with architecture designed such that it is technically still capable of running all those decades old 8086 programs and operating systems. (Just, several orders of magnitude faster than their designers ever envisioned, and probably only by sticking your UEFI BIOS in legacy mode first.)
scarabic@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Allow me to match your pedantry.
A “denotation” is an exact, codified definition of a word, commonly thought of as a “dictionary definition.”
A “connotation” is a less official but culturally understood meaning of a word, often dependent on context or setting.
“PC” connotes Windows in the gaming world. But thanks for taking time out of your day to tell me what it stands for, etc 🙄
Twongo@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
it’s an arch linux machine. with proton and some tweaks to steamos you can run any game without a kernel level anticheat.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Steam Box
Ahem, it’s a GabeCube.
ygurin@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It’s going to be like the steam deck, I’ve yet to find a old Non-steam game that I couldn’t run on the steam deck.
46_and_2@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’ve found some, but they’re mostly obscure and older out-of-support stuff. But anecdotally something like less than 5% of my library didn’t work with it.
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
Do the kernel level anti-cheat windows only dev guys support steam deck running official steamOS?
offspec@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Short of explicit developer lockout
dev_null@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
I’m sure it will be like the Steam Deck, meaning you can absolutely install non Steam games on it, but they still have to work under Proton (meaning the vast majority of games work, except ones requiring kernel anti cheat).
kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
Yeah, you can. SteamOS is basically just a customized arch Linux. It’s what runs on the steam deck, which you can install no astral games on. They integrate really well into the console experience as well.
Toes@ani.social 4 months ago
I’m really hoping that the price of the car headset meets or beats the Facebook models.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I do too, but I’d highly doubt it will. It’s well known that Meta sells every headset at a loss and funds the expenditure via revenue from their gargantuan advertising and spy network, specifically to squeeze out competitors and make it harder to enter the VR market as a newcomer. Zuck Zuck still thinks all the prime real estate in the metaverse is going to be his, because he only read the first half of Snow Crash.
falseWhite@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Why does it look very uncomfortable to use? I hope it’s not.
Scrollone@feddit.it 4 months ago
Still looks better than the first Steam Controller. It was atrocious.
adhocfungus@midwest.social 4 months ago
I was about to say the opposite. They somehow made it uglier.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 4 months ago
The touchpads look too low and likely awkward to use.
jeeva@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’m sure they haven’t tested this out, at all. 😅
In more seriousness, does it not just look like the same distance as on the steam deck (which I find comfortable to use), but mildly rotated?
Stabbitha@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Because it’s so bottom-heavy. If you look where your hands will be it’s essentially a Dualshock with touchpads stuck to the bottom.
Smoogs@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I guess it depends on how long your thumb is
gerowen@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Definitely will be grabbing the Steam Machine when it releases.
bigbabybilly@lemmy.world 4 months ago
8gb of vram seems… disappointing
gerowen@lemmy.world 4 months ago
They say it can run games at 4k60 “with FSR”, so it seems like it’s targeting 1080p native rendering, which is totally fine for me. I’ll be connecting it to the living room TV and sitting 6-8 feet away so I’ll probably keep it set to 1080p anyway just to keep the framerate high.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Eh, for the number of CUs, it looks fine. It looks like a slightly smaller RX 7600.
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 4 months ago
A computer you can’t swap the GPU?
theparadox@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It is very hard to make a device that is affordable, compact, efficiently cooled, and modular. Offering complete support is also infinitely more difficult when hardware is not controlled for. GPU and CPU are both customized AMD chips.
If you want to swap your GPU, build your own SFF. Hopefully they’ll have SteamOS available for general use soon.
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 4 months ago
It is also very hard for them to do marketing selling third parties modular parts, it’s much better for them to come up with a product.
If you want to swap your GPU, build your own SFF.
If you want to replace parts in your computer so that it doesn’t became useless in 5 years or end up in a landfill when a piece break, build your own SFF
TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 4 months ago
It’s built like an extra beefy gaming laptop. Many people have no interest in replacing PC parts, they just want something that works (like a console). If you want a tiny desktop with a graphics card you can build your own, and you probably already have one.
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 4 months ago
Many people have no interest in replacing PC parts
Many people have no interest in replacing their car tires and they just want to drive but i’m sure they would be really pissed if once a tire bursts they would have to replace the car.
tal@lemmy.today 4 months ago
It’s built like an extra beefy gaming laptop.
Much better cooling, which is a limiting factor for the laptop form factor.
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Ok but HL3 wen
nectar45@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Half Life 3? Do you mean Half Life: Barry?
MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 4 months ago
You just added 3 more years to its release
Tja@programming.dev 4 months ago
It’s at least 6 years now.
LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
MashedTech@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Fuck you Microsoft!
richardwallass@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Less concurrent is never a good thing. Steam already got too much power. xda-developers.com/valve-steam-monopoly-real-game…
dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Luckily unlike monopolies in other sectors, Steam doesn’t involve itself in evil oractices that more or less stops others from competing.
Someone just needs to make a better store, but they can’t because no company big enough to compete is willing to be as user friendly.
Epic, probably the second biggest store people thing about, can’t even make a good platform. They try underhanded practices like bribing developers and customers… maybe they should make their store work properly first.
Viirax@piefed.social 4 months ago
Finally, another worthwhile controller with symmetrical sticks. Now to find out how to get my hands on one…
LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I typically just have one hand on each side
titanicx@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
That controller looks ugly and bulky as fuck.
echodot@feddit.uk 4 months ago
Do you remember the old Xbox controllers that had the attachable keyboard? It’s essentially just that kind of shape. So you would use the controller and kind of ignore the touchpads on the bottom unless you actually need them, then you just move your hand down and use the touchpads for something like mouse control. I doubt the intention is for you to use all of the inputs at once like you would an Xbox or PlayStation controller.
SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Well thank God I don’t give a shit how my controller looks as long as it is well designed.
onnekas@sopuli.xyz 4 months ago
It kinda looks ass. However, it kinda looks like a steamdeck without a screen which is no surprise. And I quite like the steamdeck controls…
Viirax@piefed.social 4 months ago
I mean, sure it looks a bit odd, but if you remove the trackpads and reshape the controller based on not having those then it’s a pretty standard controller, no? It’s not like the added part for the trackpads does anything to change how you would hold the controller or anything, so I doubt it’d make much of a difference in use even if you never use the trackpads.
Alenalda@lemmy.world 4 months ago
That usb port being off center though…
echodot@feddit.uk 4 months ago
There’s plenty of videos of it on YouTube and the port is not off centre.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 4 months ago
This will invoke someone’s OCD
Viirax@piefed.social 4 months ago
I did notice that in this picture, but I don’t think it actually is. Pretty sure this is from the “animation” where the puck with the USB cable is put under the controller to charge, and not with the USB cable connected to the controller. From what I see though it should all be centered, even the puck and charging pins, so not sure why they made it off-center here
nuko147@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Since the Steam Machine is more like an entry PC and not a console (and will be priced as that), does that mean that SteamOS for desktop will be officially supported?
bvoigtlaender@feddit.org 4 months ago
The controllers have battery compartments! 🔔 🔔 🔔
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
So, I’ve been wanting to buy a controller to play classic games.
After doing some research I got an 8bit Do classic 2, which looked and felt great, but I guess couldn’t work with my Bluetooth.
Should I just get an Xbox controller, or hold out for this new Nintendo tech (I only game on PC and Switch, currently).
I’ve bought three controllers for my PC over the years, and none of them have been universally usable.
oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
I was a pretty big enjoyer of the design of the first Steam controller, so adding a second stick and keeping the touchpads sounds great. Also mine broke, I can’t remember exactly what gave out, but it was just destroyed, and using a touchpad for a second stick felt awkward af.
I didn’t even mind the way it bent “backwards”, the fact that the stick and buttons were tiny, or its weird shape. Actually thinking about it, it was the right trigger that broke and just caved in, Spring broke, plastic tab snapped off, just basically a hole left there. I wasn’t about to attempt a repair, either. I don’t have the skill for that.
Anyway, this looks nice. A lot of people seem to call it ugly, but I don’t get it. Sturdy and functional are a good look, so this looks great. And if it functions just as well as the Steam Deck controls, (and of course it will, since it’s basically the same parts except switching out magnetic sticks instead of regular ones)
Here’s hoping the triggers are better on it. It’s definitely on my radar for next year.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 4 months ago
Hopefully, this means an official release of SteamOS desktop. I want to switch away from Windows 11 IoT, if I can get a flavor of Linux with official backing from an 800lb gaming gorilla. While I can try out Bazzite or Cachy, I would prefer to have only one Linux for the rest of my PC’s life.
Would have stuck with Windows, if it weren’t for the fact that Microsoft has been channeling the spirit of an overly controlling parent.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Not gonna lie the controller looks ass but maybe it feels fantastic so I‘ll wait with my final judgement. I‘m interested to see how they will try to push VR since most users are still incredibly uninterested in it.
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 4 months ago
2026 Year of the Linux desktop?
Surely this will bring over a lot of people to Linux
pastermil@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
16GB RAM, tho?
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
I don’t like the look of this controller… I’m still gonna get one. Everything else I love.
Especially that SteamOS is apparently going to become available on ARM devices.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Steam Frame is interesting. Would love a non-Meta VR headset that doesn’t cost $1k and also doesn’t have a million wires and base stations.
Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 4 months ago
But what about the steam carrots and broccoli?
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 4 months ago
They missed the chance to call the machine the Steam Engine
MoonlitSanguine@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Hopefully the Frames can compete with the Meta Quest in both price/performance. It will be good to have relatively affordable VR headset not made by Facebook.
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