Aw, he’s telling people to pirate it. What a thoughtful guy.
$80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"
Submitted 3 months ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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obelix@lemmy.world 3 months ago
cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
You wouldn’t download a shit to give.
LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 3 months ago
That’s legitimately how I read what he was saying at first.
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
If Randy Pitchford was a real CEO he would find a way to make $60 games
newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 3 months ago
He’s too busy collecting child porn to bother with running his business.
Kbobabob@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Uh, source? It seems like if this were true he’d be in cuffs.
Exusia@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Randy pitchford?
THAT Randy Pitchford? The Randy Pitchford that, because he loves magic tricks, downloaded himself some squirt porn (sfw youtube link to moistcritical) and then left it at a Midieval Times? The same Randy that grabbed the Claptrap VA by the junk because he was tired of voicing Claptrap for free and had the audacity to ask to be paid so Pitchford tried to intimidate him? The same Randy Pitchford that somehow “lost” “lost” 10 million dollars of Segas money causing Colonial marines to bomb.
Fuck that guy.
brsrklf@jlai.lu 3 months ago
No, no, you don’t understand, the girl was doing a magic trick! He only consumed that just barely legal content with professional interest in mind.
Exusia@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m not gonna sit and tell a man he can’t have a kink preference in his own home on his own time.
But Jesus fuck on the company thumb drive? Theyre $12 for a 128Gb one on Amazon. And then to be so distracted he forgot it.
CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Holy shit, I knew about the “magic trick” girl and thought he was a quirky funny man, but assaulting an artist to force them to work for free? What a fucking asshole
Exusia@lemmy.world 3 months ago
If I recall the feud correctly, Eddings previously worked on Claptrap as a favor for free (or next to it). As far as the back and forth on Twitter indicates, when he said he wanted “Id like to be paid this time”, Pitchford initially pushed back, and then offered “2x union rates” (whether Pitchford actually offered that or said it on twitter afterward to garner sympathy we may never know), but Eddings refused the offer since gearbox was (at the time) about to make its 3rd lootershooter in a monsterously successful chain and he was pne of the most prominent side characters.
Jim sterling has almost an hour or more worth of videos (a 30m and a few 5-7m) I can link specifically about Pitchford. Working for Destructoid at the time of Colonial Marines, they held an interview with Pitchford who lied to their face about features of the game, and so made it a personal mission to keep Randy accountable.
Pitchford must have had an issue with Destructoid running him through the gutter for Colonial Marines, and the Borderlands 2 mission BFFs features 4 characters in a Mexican standoff for stealing money. (What an oddly on the nose mission eh?) All 4 have names of Destructoid staff, with the thief being named “Jim” - but I’m sure that’s just a coincidence and not a ceo being petty right.
Bro is a blight on Gearbox. And Noone is sure how or why the board hasn’t gotten rid of him.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I hear he also collected child porn, citation needed.
_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Hi Randy, fuck off lol
leavemealone@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Too much games to play on the market to justify the urgency to buy it at release for 80 bucks. they now compete with free to play, gamepass, Indy games, piracy, and tons of past games with lower cost.
The fomo of newly released games is low when most games are released in shitty state and need 1/2 months of patches/fixes and that’s not even taking in consideration that the best experience is when all the dlcs are released and make the game finally complete.
The AAA industry is fucked. In a world where quality games are released each weeks they are often but even the best way to have fun with our limited time, like tepid Ubisoft games…
WarlordSdocy@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Yeah I’m really starting to feel like we’re gonna see a lot of these companies shift from doing big AAA games to instead publishing small indie games. Almost all of these big companies have indie publishing arms now and as they start to see good profits from those without having to take on the cost of paying devs themselves I wouldn’t be surprised if they start cutting back on their own dev teams and shifting to that.
leavemealone@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Honestly I am all for if it means that we get original games again from big studios, I can’t get hyped anymore for yet another sequel or remaster.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Honestly, in my opinion, there’s too many games to justify buying it at all. I enjoyed one and two when I was a kid, and there wasn’t competition for the genre. Three I think was free on Epic or something, so I played and it was fine, but not great. I don’t expect much from four, and there’s companies I’d actually like to support instead.
leavemealone@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
I can’t tell you exactly why, but as much as I played and replayed borderlands 1&2, the third one didn’t interest me at all, I can see that the recipe used the same ingredients but it just didn’t taste the same to contribute the metaphor. It just bored me and my wife during our coop campaign, and we didn’t have any desire to continue our playthrough. I hope they get it back with four but I don’t trust them enough anymore to buy it blindly anyway.
CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I found a way already, it’s called patience. Works well for basically any non nintendo game.
smeg@feddit.uk 3 months ago
You can still (for the moment) be patient with Nintendo games if you’re OK buying second hand
CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I solved that by moving to pc and forgetting about Nintendo’s existence.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Or just pirate and emulate Nintendo games. They’re such scumbags that they make piracy morally correct
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 months ago
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mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
Unfortunately, the real appeal of the Borderlands series is multiplayer. The games are alright in single player mode, but multiplayer is where it really shines.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 months ago
IIRC all of the past ones have worked over LAN, including over a private VPN if you so desire. I definitely played pirated copies of 1 and 2 with my mates. I had no real desire to get very deep into 3 because the campaign storyline was so stupid, but I don’t doubt you could.
It’s only online matchmaking with randos that you’ll be blocked from, which if you ask me is not really that much of a detriment.
neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
Theseus’ ship? 😱
Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Would be better than 3
Goretantath@lemm.ee 3 months ago
I can make it happen? Okeydokey! 🏴☠️
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Guess I’m not a real fan. Fuck you Randy. He’s such a cunt.
xiii@lemmy.world 3 months ago
While working on Borderlands 3, the team was severely underpaid. People started quitting, so Randy promised them an “unprecedented company profit-sharing bonus model.” That never got paid—he blamed “higher-than-anticipated development costs and sales not meeting projections.” Borderlands 3 went GOTY, a few dozens millions copies sold. Randy secured a $12M executive bonus for himself. When staff expressed dissatisfaction, Pitchford told them they were free to quit. This was in the middle of the pandemic, and the job market was absolute crap.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’ve not heard a single good thing about him. He’s just a toolbag through and through.
conditional_soup@lemm.ee 3 months ago
If anyone deserves for his workers to get unionized, it’s this asshole
Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Oh I’ll find a way alright.
damdy@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Can’t wait to play it…in 2035 summer sale. Maybe I’ll even get bored in under 2 hours and get the instant refund.
ne0n@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Randy actually needs to see this. It’s reality.
NeryK@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
You’d think he’d be better media trained by now. But no, here goes the foot in the mouth.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
He got the horrible Hand, Foot in Mouth Disease.
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 3 months ago
Nothing has stopped him so far, including assaulting the VA of their most well known character
LuckyPierre@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Find a way?
Piracy is a way. Thanks for the tip.
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 3 months ago
put it on my wish list
buy it for $15 in a year
yawn
technomad@slrpnk.net 3 months ago
I feel like if it drops that much in one year, it’s probably a pretty shit game anyway right?
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 3 months ago
If it being Borderlands 4 wasn’t enough of a tip considering the stellar writing we had on pre-sequel and 3.
EarWorm@lemmy.world 3 months ago
TIL real Borderlands fans are pirates.
tomi000@lemmy.world 3 months ago
They become pirates if necessary.
RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
I’m not a huge fan of Borderlands. I like the stories. But I don’t like the loot goblining. Constant hunt for ever higher damage numbers.
There’s only 1 company I’ll pay $80 for a new game. And that is Ryu Ga Gotoku. Cuz they don’t miss. No bad half finished launches. No bad games. Every game is a masterclass in Peak. Image
Yermaw@lemm.ee 3 months ago
I’m the opposite, I don’t give a monkeys about the story but I like the loot goblining.
That said a borderlands came on the gamepass the other week and I was so excited to lure my boy into co-op with me for the first time in ages. It wouldn’t stop crashing. I googled it to see if they were aware and all I could find was the company sucking it’s own dick about having already released the final patch to stop it crashing so many times. I wouldn’t say I’m thrilled about the idea of dropping $80 on a day one release.
Graphy@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m a Loot Goblin that spacebars through the story too, but Borderlands hasn’t been able to scratch that itch in a long time.
The last one I played was Tina’s Wonderland and everything about it was a slog. I didn’t care about any of the loot or any of the fights and I definitely didn’t care about the story.
madame_gaymes@programming.dev 3 months ago
I’ll add Factorio to the list of games that deserve the $80 tag. $40 for base, $40 for Space Age expansion. Or don’t get Space Age and go with the mod that spawned Space Age (although not exactly the same).
I get it’s a bit of a niche genre, though. The factory thing the way Factorio does it isn’t for everybody.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
I personally prefer mindustry
jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Can you recommend me a starting point? For someone who has no experience with these games, or any Japanese games besides Soulsgames and RE4 remake.
Feel free to roast me in the process.
RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Yakuza 0, kiwami, kiwami 2, Yakuza 3, 4, 5, 6, then 7, then Gaiden, then 8.
Then play Jusgement and Lost Judgement. Not part of Yakuza’s core canon. But adjacent.
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 months ago
I honestly don’t know how people play this game. Every 12 seconds coming across new gear. Can’t do it.
SolOrion@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
It’s not like I need to do the math to figure out which gun is better and why. Find something with green arrows? Hold E to equip it immediately. If I use it for a bit and aren’t a fan I’ll just swap back to what I was using before and mark it as junk so I sell it next time I buy ammo or fill my inventory.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It didn’t used to be like that and they actually mentioned in the deep dive that they’re getting back to the way it was before. Like the point of the game is loot goblining, but they’ve promised not to inundate the player with legendary weapons every twelve seconds so that you actually have time to savor the weapons you get between good drops.
Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
Real fans “Find a Way” Yarr.
TurboHarbinger@feddit.cl 3 months ago
I knew Randy would fuck up the game somehow.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Seriously, why do they let him talk? The man is a walking PR disaster.
Almacca@aussie.zone 3 months ago
Borderlands isn’t that good, Randy.
CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 3 months ago
TIL a lot of people aren’t true fans.
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 3 months ago
Yeah, the way to make it happen is adding it to my wishlist and waiting for the price to drop to at least $40.
3migo@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’ve been a big Borderlands fan for 10+ years. I played through the first one multiple times and loved it. My wife and I bonded over BL1 when we first started dating.
Was super excited for BL2, and have played it many times throughout the years.
But the pre-sequel was a let down, and BL3 felt soulless and lacked the same spark as BL2.
Tiny Tina Wonderlands was great, and felt like a return to what made BL2 so fun.
All that to say, I don’t have high hopes for BL4, nor will I be paying $80 for it. It just feels like they’re coasting off the brand name at this point and trying to exploit longtime BL players like myself.
Spaniard@lemmy.world 3 months ago
What’s your take on the telltale game?
Krauerking@lemy.lol 3 months ago
Not OP but Tales from the Borderlands 1 us my favorite of the telltale game collection and has some of my favorite music videos ever and wears its emotions on its sleeve for you to empathize with its characters in clever real ways.
3migo@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I never played the Tales from Borderlands myself, but my wife did and she really enjoyed it. She said it added a lot to the story lore presented in BL2.
I did enjoy the Walking Dead telltale game along with the Wolf Among Us, though.
Gerudo@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Looks like fitgirl will be getting my business instead
modifier@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Found a way!
andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Remember how Randy Pitchford funneled money that was supposed to go to Aliens: Colonial Marines into Borderlands 2 (and Duke Nukem Forever lol)
Did Randy also get caught with some questionable porn?
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 months ago
Laws only apply to us poors.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
Weinstein? Diddy? Epstein?
I think the more apt description would be that when you’re got something that makes other people money, then you will be protected. When that ends you’re fair game.
I also agree that the more money you have the better defence you can get, but I don’t believe laws only apply to the poor. That’s hyperbole.
scbasteve7@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Yeah, I’ll fucking pirate it LMAO
Jaeger86@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Randy’s a twat. I’ll pick that shit up for $20 next Christmas
madame_gaymes@programming.dev 3 months ago
🏴
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Real fan?
Bitch please. We’ve put up with your crap for so long and we still play it…
Get out of here with that house shit. Get fucked. Fuck you, and the horse you rode in on. At best, I’ll wait for a sale, at worst, I’m never playing your goddamned franchise again because you’ve run it into the ground with enshittification.
neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
I’m absolutely ready to pay 80$ for a game. But then I don’t want to see scummy shit like lootboxes or advanced access in it. If I pay 80$ I expect to see a game release that isn’t half-baked and has to get fixed with hotfixes and patches over the next two months but that just works out of the box and that doesn’t try to get me to spend even more money on it. That also includes no content that they’ve already produced being held back for DLCs.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Like waiting 6 months for them to panic over low sales and put on 50% sale?
Maybe, or maybe I’ll wait for the ultimate edition with all dlc to hit $40
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 3 months ago
When $40 is half price, I will generally pass as if it were $80. There is a glut of amazing content out there for $40 or less, and much of it is truly inspired indie work. When your half-price game is competing with great full-price indie titles, I will continue to ignore your overpriced corporate muck.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Or get it second-hand off G2A or CDKeys.
I’m never paying $80 for a video game.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
I wouldn’t advise using those services, myself. Lots of sketchy stuff. Legit copies of digital games go on sale often enough.
yamper@lemmy.world 3 months ago
piracy is preferable over buying a key off of greymarket sites like this tbh
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Borderlands 3 is in a free giveaway after a year or so on Epic Games. The sales must be abysmal to give a flagship franchise away for free, because of Randy being a bitch and insist exclusive is good. This will hopefully bite them back like last time.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I honestly think it will sell a lot because most gamers won’t be able to control themselves.
PillowTalk420@lemmy.world 3 months ago
What does a 12 year old care about $80? They ain’t spending that. Their parents are.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Or perhaps even find it to be worth the price.
zaphod@sopuli.xyz 3 months ago
I got Borderlands 3 about a year after release for less than 5€, I can wait.