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Designed by men, for men: Why sex with robots does not have appeal among women
Submitted 2 months ago by misk@sopuli.xyz to technology@lemmy.world
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hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
remotelove@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
But FREE browsing! How revolutionary.
KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
I’ve seen this more and more, it’s fucked up and probably illegal
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Think I’ve seen this twice now in the past couple years, but yeah it’s likely not compliant with the cookie law in EU
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Illegal where? What law does it break?
powermaker450@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
and this is why uBlock origin is the be all end all of extensions.
potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 2 months ago
1984
fl42v@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Idk what’s the big deal, honestly. Remember the memes about yt premium, “I either give you my money, or my data, but not both”? Well, it’s kinda like that. The caveat is, their payment provider likely still collects data, and some info is saved on the backend anyways, but that’s another can of worms.
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Asshole design is asshole design. They’re essentially saying here that they’ll sell your data whatever you choose, opting out is not an option.
Obviously there’s easy ways to bypass this but it’s not an excuse for them
misk@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Just enable reader view in your browser.
towelie@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Sex with a hella sexy robot? Nice.
Using a hella sexy robot to fill the hole left from a lack of intimacy and authentic mutual connection? Not nice.
For some reason sex with a robot doesn’t feel gross to me — until they start using it to fill a hole (hehe)
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
What about for people who struggle to have emotional intimacy and sexual intimacy throughout their lives because of medical issues or mental health issues?
My ex has a brother who is now pushing 40 and has never even held a woman’s hand. He has severe mental disabilities and will never live life on his own without some kind of caretaker. We know he looked at porn, partially because he refused to ever let people fix up his computer, usually out of fear of people seeing his porn.
Does he not deserve emotional and sexual intimacy? There is a high likelihood he will never have it otherwise.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Different filler for different holes.
A sex bot is fine if you keep expectations in check. For the rest, friendship can go a long way. Help them find a hobby they can share with others (regardless of gender) and keep that platonic. That gives them social connection, and the sex bot gives physical release.
It’s not as good as a complete relationship, but at least there’s less risk of the sex bot creating more problems by trying to have it do human things.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Electro-gonorreah, the noisy killer
AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 months ago
essteeyou@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Realistically how is a man going to design a good sex robot for a woman? Let a woman do that, they’ll get what they want.
shalafi@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Women already have the perfect sex bot. It’s called a Sybian.
Jarix@lemmy.world 2 months ago
And if that Sybian could pick you up, and stroke your thighs, massage your breasts, have hips and legs to simulate the sexual positions that it can’t provide you, while still being what it is, there is a huge room for improvement on the design of the sybian and what great things it does
bhamlin@lemmy.world 2 months ago
✅: Does what it’s asked to do
✅: Doesn’t talk back
Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Speak for yourself. Gimme that drama free dick.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 months ago
Pulptastic@midwest.social 2 months ago
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
mrcleanup@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Roboburbilbear!
DrBabyJesus@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Shardik!
figjam@midwest.social 2 months ago
I will get a sex robot when it can scoop catboxes and fold laundry.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
You’re into some weird shit but I respect it
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 months ago
I’m willing to settle for fully self cleaning but I wouldn’t say no a full Maid Fuck Bot
embed_me@programming.dev 2 months ago
Genius! It will sell even without the sex
figjam@midwest.social 2 months ago
Ding ding ding.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 months ago
I will get a sex robot when it can order me to scoop cat boxes and fold laundry.
figjam@midwest.social 2 months ago
Shit, you don’t need a robot for that! I can do that for free
remotelove@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
All it took was one search to find plenty of contradictions to that post title.
RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
They don’t that that much appeal to me as well, and I’m a dude.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Isn’t that because women have had vibrators for decades?
kemsat@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I dunno, everyone was cool with the love story of Wanda & The Vision from the MCU. I guess fucking robots is not ok, but becoming emotionally attached to one is?
GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I don’t think that’s a linear logic. We all know Vision is a robot. But we also know it’s a story about a robot that is played by a man. We are watching for the spectacle, not because we believed the story to be real.
Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Except Vision isn’t a robot, he’s an android. Or maybe more than that; a synthetic life form. He is his own person, with his own wants abd needs. He can feel and develop opinions on things. He’s not merely a computer with a personality algorithm.
kemsat@lemmy.world 2 months ago
He’s not something that was gestated or birthed, thus is not a person. You can say an android is different, but regardless he’s not human or living. He’s a fancy thinking robot. Wanda basically fell in love with an LLM with an attached vibrator.
BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’ve never seen the Wanda and Vision show, but I always imagine it being Sonny from the I Robot movie with Will Smith, and Wanda Sykes.
shaggyb@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You’re telling me women don’t like vibrators.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Make robots look like bears or dolphins?
OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I want to know what the state of the art AI sex robot is right now. Because they have those realistic-ish sex dolls, and some pretty advanced LLMs that can chat conversationally, and longer term memory is starting to get into the LLM repertoire so your bot can remember things about you and reference them later.
I feel like we’re 3-5 years away from a high end AI prostitute startup becoming huge.
L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
My favorite part, is that ALL of the current AI companion products use subscriptions to LLM services instead of having built in models.
Which means
ifwhen the company stops paying their bill, or if the AI company goes under, your waifus goes kaput. Or more likely just restructuring because of a buyout. It’s already happened with a few companies -> big tech buys out the company then stops supporting the product line, that then customers get mad. IIRC, coincidentally HP is being sue for doing just that with some recent buyout right now lmao.The ante seems to get upped each time, and there exists at least one unstable lonely maniac that will not consider legal consequences to their actions when they are suddenly rugpulled out of their unhealthy addictive relationship, so there’s still room for the bubble to burst in an even more epic crash.
Pacattack57@lemmy.world 2 months ago
200k and they still want to milk you for a subscription 😂
weew@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
“natural” movement and the Uncanny Valley might be the next biggest hurdle actually.
SGforce@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
They just have to lie back and squirm
Grabthar@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It pains me to think that there soon may be a whole new employment field built around the demand for workers trained to muck out robo-vajayjay.
sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
I’m no expert on attraction, but what if the sex robot looked like a skeleton?
flemtone@lemmy.world 2 months ago
In this current age of western dating Sex Bots at least cut out all of the bullshit for many men and give you basic companionship with the perks of sex, which is a lot easier for some than dating.
Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 months ago
[off topic]
From the movie Cherry 2000. In the movie the hero has just lost his sex robot and is trying to date human women for the first time in a while.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
It’s a favorite campy classic of mine. I love bad movies.
I also think it’s one of those films with a great idea but terrible execution that could be remade.
I want to see a remake where Cherry 2000 actually has agency and consciousness and at the end of the film the two women run away together leaving the creepy guy behind.
I always thought a remake could have Chris Elliott as the creepy guy and he would kill it in such a role.
Jarix@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’m surprised i haven’t seen anyone talk about another movie, AI
One of the main characters is Gigolo Joe played by judge law
Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Have you seen “Ex Machina?”
match@pawb.social 2 months ago
does that make it gay
Klnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
No, it just makes it boring straight
electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Maybe some men like the idea, but I bet most of them would soon find the experience less fulfilling than they had hoped.
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
The true nature of the term novelty.
SanndyTheManndy@lemmy.kya.moe 2 months ago
Something’s better than nothing
electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Most of us have hands. This is just a sex toy. The novelty of it being shaped like a whole-ass woman will soon wear off and turn into the same self loathing.
kibiz0r@midwest.social 2 months ago
In these sexual relationships, availability and consent will always be taken for granted, something that’s never taken for granted in a sexual relationship with another human being.
People could get used to interacting in a way in which the other person isn’t taken into account as much, meaning that sexual partners could be instrumentalized for the purpose of having sex. That is to say the ‘human-humanoid’ interaction could be transferred to the relationship between two human beings.
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Unfortunately, however, these advances aren’t being accompanied by deep reflections about the consequences that sex with robots can have.
bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
never taken for granted
In healthy relationships anyway
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Well i guess im a woman then lol
Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Aren’t most incels men?
blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
There are plenty of women who don’t have intercourse regularly, but they are less likely than their male counterparts to whine about it.
thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
I’m with the ladies on this one.
xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Isn’t the answer quite obvious?
OmnislashIsACloudApp@lemmy.world 2 months ago
every time I see crap like this it make me think about that 30rock porn for women skit with Tina Fey
Shou@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Thats easy to solve though. It’ll appeal to women if the sexbot can do household chores. Who wouldn’t want a robot maid?
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
I’d prefer a real hooker.
andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Former sex worker - what’s the appeal?
It’s basically impossible to do full service work without being severely traumatized. I guess I don’t have to pay for sex since I like men - no matter what age sex gender race what the fuck ever there’s a guy within 10 miles that’ll stick their dick in you - but I guess I don’t see the appeal of sex that my partner isn’t enjoying.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
All sex is transactional, all women are whores and all men are johns, it’s just we have this weird cultural thing where it’s a crime to say “Look can I just Venmo you?” so we have to do things like pay for sex with flowers and chocolates and restaurant meals and jewelry and alimony.
“I faked all my orgasms” is up there with “your dick is small” on the list of “things women always say to men they’re angry at” so at some point his ability to care if its true or not burns out.
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
“what’s the appeal?”
Of a sex worker or a robot?
basically it boils down to human contact versus a toy in this case. Did you never ask a client/partner/audience member? I assume reasons may vary. I personally think the nature of the (business) relationship to be low-pressure and relatively straight-forward --That is if we are to contrast it with the dating experience for the average man. Not everybody is relationship material, regardless.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 months ago
It’s funny to think that far enough into the future this may be viewed as robophobic.
KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
I thought onlyfans was the cheap and easy desire “fast-food”-like product for women. Or instagram or whatever social media gives people the impression of being center stage. Not robots.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
I guess a vibrator isn’t a type of sex robot?
python@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Colloquially, the word “robot” always implies a certain amount of anthropomorphism. So no, I don’t think a vibrator would count, as basically no vibrators on the market try to look human-like.
But that definitely is a weird difference between male and female sexuality - the sex toys women buy most are the very effective and utilitarian ones: Vibrator wands, Rabbits, Air pulse Vibrators etc.
While the most popular tools for men tend to focus on “realism”(?): Fleshlights, Sex Dolls, things like VR and POV porn. And I guess sex robots would fall into that category too in the future.
I can absolutely see the weirdness-factor of someone who is desperately trying to emulate a partner rather than just accept masturbation as a solo activity and optimize it from there 😬
LaggyKar@programming.dev 2 months ago
A robot doesn’t need to be anthropomorphic, an assembly line robot is still a robot. It does however need to be able to perform some actions autonomously, for which a vibrator hardly qualifies.
barsoap@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Overpriced pornstar-branded fleshlights aren’t the only masturbators in town and it’s not like there’s no life-like dildos either. The long and short of it is that the mechanics of a lubed hole are superior to that of a hand and you’re not looking at the entry point all the time so noone actually cares what they look like.
Yes, the branded stuff does exist, humans, male female, doesn’t matter, enter parasocial relationships news at 11. Can you imagine how well Justin Bieber dildos would sell.
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Slap a pair of googly eyes on it and it as good as has a soul.
JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 months ago
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Ah yes, the extremely humanlike robots. 😂
I think one difference is that men often have no support structures at all, and certainly not with levels of physical or emotional connection. They aren’t just craving sex, they are craving human intimacy and connection where it is very normalized among women to have emotional and physical intimacy among friend support groups.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
I think you are confusing the word robot with the word android
random_character_a@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Dildos and vibrators were first a medical devices for hysteria.
DrBob@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Dildos have been around a lot longer than that. allthatsinteresting.com/history-of-the-dildo
My understanding is that “hysteria” legitimized the use of the vibrator (not unlike how “weight loss” was used in the 1980s to prescribe fentanyl), but they were around before that, and probably would have found another way of entering the mainstream.