The fuck?
Peak technology
Submitted 7 months ago by gedaliyah@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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Vej@lemm.ee 7 months ago
db2@lemmy.world 7 months ago
That’s a real thing. Buy Brother, brother.
audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
Has Epson also gone downhill? The first one I bought lasted 11 years, so about 3 years ago I replaced it with another Epson.
Taako_Tuesday@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
We’ve had trouble with Brother products as well unfortunately
macarthur_park@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’m guessing they signed up for HP Instant Ink, a monthly subscription service that monitors the ink levels in the printer and automatically mails you refills.
If you buy an HP printer, they HEAVILY promote this and offer discounts/free trials. I declined, because fuck that, but I could see someone agreeing and forgetting about it.
Diplomjodler@feddit.de 7 months ago
If you buy HP, you deserve everything you get.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 months ago
No. Making a mistake doesn’t mean you deserve unfair treatment.
Vej@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I used HP4015s for years. I loved those things. So easy to work on. I could rip one apart in under a minute. The company just seemed to go to hell.
mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud 7 months ago
They make the money on the ink, not the printer. Laserlet for win
ShunkW@lemmy.world 7 months ago
When I was in college, I would go to micro center and buy the cheapest printer there, getting the warranty for $2.99. Run out of ink? Return it as defective and get a new printer with the gift card, paying $2.99 for the warranty again. So I paid $2.99 for ink for all 4 years of college.
amanaftermidnight@lemmy.world 7 months ago
$10,000 per gallon
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 7 months ago
No, the printer
hperrin@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Epson EcoTank. They’re expensive printers, but the ink is so cheap they make up for it. I absolutely love mine and recommend it to anyone looking for a printer.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 7 months ago
If you’re gonna spend money on a decent printer, go with a laser printer unless you specifically need ink printing.
I have an HP I got like a decade ago, and only had to change the OEM toner carts in the last 6mo or so. The thing has survived 3 moves too, so it’s held up like a champ. It probably helps that it’s an older HP, so it was before they went to shit.
CatZoomies@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Hi, this is Hewlett Packard here. We read your post and are happy you love our products! Wouldn’t it make sense for you to upgrade to one of our newer models? I’m sure you’re tired of lugging your heavy, old printer these days.
Our new ones are much lighter! Lighter in weight due to beautiful design! Lighter even on your wallet (at first, and for now)!
Won’t you consider upgrading and locking in - I mean - “purchasing” a new printer, pretty please? uwu :3
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(We rebranded. Now the “P” stands for Predatory, but like the cute kind 😘. It’s okay to give us your money, trust us.)
PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Yup. Inkjet printers became popular because of digital cameras. But unless you’re printing a bunch of photos, you really don’t need an inkjet.
laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
Honestly, if I printed enough to warrant it, I’d go for that Epson… But I stick with my color laser because it’s over ten years old and I print so little it still has the starter cartridges in it, ink would have dried out so many times during that period
errer@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Disadvantage with laser is they are bigger and heavier and when you do have to replace parts other than the toner, it’s expensive. I don’t have a large house and went with a small Canon inkjet for space considerations. We only print occasionally so it’s worked ok for us.
shalafi@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Boom. My HP is a tiny B&W from 10+ years ago. Runs like a champ, $20 for an easy 1,000 pages, or more. WFH and do a little company printing so they buy the supplies. MUCH love. When it finally kicks it, if I can’t find a refurb kit, I’ll go Brother.
ThatoneNB23@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
Actually eco tank printers are also designed to fail as they have ink pads that can only be replaced by the manufacturer I recommend you watch this video explaining the problem with tank printers like the eco tank.
hperrin@lemmy.world 7 months ago
That’s an ink absorber, and all inkjet printers have them. It’s not “designed to fail”, it’s a physical limitation of the universe. You can’t just keep dumping ink into a sponge forever. Eventually it will become saturated and you can either clean it or replace it.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I won’t go eco tank personally, clogs and cleaning is a royal pain on them and there’s no good purge feature. I would fully recommend going this path only if accuracy on color is requirement further then laser printers do
hperrin@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’ve had mine for about four years. I’ve had clogged print heads once, and I ran the auto cleaning five times, then it worked. I’ll give you that it was a pain, but the purge feature works. You’ve just gotta do it multiple times if it’s a really bad clog.
areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Actually they have a power wash feature you can use. It just wastes a lot of ink.
Zozano@lemy.lol 7 months ago
Fuck Epson, fuck them fuck them fuck them fuck Epson, Epson can suck my dick, Epson can lick my asshole, Epson can dance in traffic and go to hell. Fuck Epson.
teamevil@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Hands down the best printer I’ve ever had. Only challenge is cleaning the printer heads because I don’t print often enough.
hperrin@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I just run the automated thing like 4 or 5 times until it prints well again. It always works eventually.
rambaroo@lemmynsfw.com 7 months ago
Nah. After getting a laser jet I’ll never go back to an inkjet printer.
areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Yes and no. I have one and they work fine until you unplug them for any length of time. Then you have to deal with cleaning all the printheads and getting it to work properly again. Typically needs multiple passes before it will print right. I know it’s a problem with all ink jet printers. It’s a shame toner is more expensive and colour laser printers are so expensive. If not I would switch to one of them.
bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Everybody donate to Pine64 so they can get that open source printer off the ground someday.
uis@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Wait, what?
bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Pine64, the company that has made such excellent projects as the PinePhone, PineBook, and PineTime(open source hardware and software smartphone, laptop and smart watch), has stated that one of their dream projects would be an open source, hackable printer. There’s obviously a ton of logistics though and it will likely never materialize unless they really start making big bucks.
Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 7 months ago
The fact that HP didn’t even say anything makes it look less like profiteering and more like spite. Idiots. I’m actually in the market for a printer and from what I can tell, in order to get something that won’t stiff me in some way I have to get one which is really old. And not made by HP.
citrusface@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You just want a Brother laser jet black and white printer
It’s no bullshit and will work forever
hedidwot@lemmynsfw.com 7 months ago
I’m with the others recommending Brother. They aren’t perfect, but they’re the least bad.
Running about a 10 year old MFC 9349 CDW here, only changed the black toner so far. Used a cartridge reset truck I found on YouTube to get more life out of the original black before that.
Scans to network nicely, does 2 sided prints etc.
Go for a Brother.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’ve owned a HL-3070cw for a decade (I think, close to if not) - I’ve changed the toner carts 4 times, it’s printed high res color daily for pennies. Shit just works, and quality isn’t bad at all. Works from any device on the network - phones tablets desktops laptops - practically zero network admin/setup, it just fucking works for everyone. Cannot recommend enough.
bluewing@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Which is fine until Grandma wants to print out all the selfies and other photos our Grand kids send her. Then, that black and white anything won’t cut it. And I can’t afford a photo quality laser printer…
Paddzr@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’ve been around in IT long enough… The emails went to someone who has left or someone set auto delete “on these annoying spam emails!”.
Not to make it right or better, hp sucks donkey balls, but I don’t believe the would’ve been zero contact. If you buy a subscription printer and stop paying for a subscription… That’s on you.
wolfpack86@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Subscription printer. Why the fuck is that even a thing.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Apparently Brother, and some Lexmark, printers don’t come with this BS DRM baked into the firmware.
Has anyone cracked the HP firmware to give us proper access to our hardware?
malloc@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Thanks to DMCA, circumventing this protection and sharing it with people is illegal.
Honestly hasn’t stopped people in the past but I suspect it hasn’t been cracked because of how it connects to an external server to verify. Probably need to patch the firmware entirely
JayDee@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
For those who don’t know, Wendigoon is a creepy lore youtuber.
He’s also sometimes been acredited with creating the aesthetic of the boogaloo boys, not sure how true that is.
As far as I’ve heard, his videos are fairly consistent with documentation of the events he covers, such as the unibomber, the MLK assassination, etc.
It’s very funny to think he wasn’t radicalized before the printer situation.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Yeah, he has a… questionable history, what with the “boogaloo boys” memes, but he stopped engaging with that pretty quickly around the time it became associated with Actual Nazis instead of semi-ironic government-hating libertarians.
gedaliyah@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I did not know that! Thank you.
Death_Equity@lemmy.world 7 months ago
He is not exactly radical, he is not a fan of the government and loves a good conspiracy.
He also is a devote Christian, but not a dick about it.
He, by all accounts, is a wonderful person that everybody who knows him loves.
yamanii@lemmy.world 7 months ago
He interviewed a fed.
aidan@lemmy.world 7 months ago
He’s also sometimes been acredited with creating the aesthetic of the boogaloo boys, not sure how true that is.
I don’t really know anything about him, but I just checked out his channel and I don’t really think that’s true since its only 3 years old
Makeshift@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Seen this so many times and glad to keep seeing it.
More people being informed on these scummy practices to look out for and avoid is a good thing.
SupraMario@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Printers shouldn’t be allowed to the edge…vlan with no Internet access… it’s a fucking printer not a web host.
time_fo_that@lemmy.world 7 months ago
My mom bought a cheap HP printer/scanner several years ago and subscribed to their “instant ink” subscription which was actually surprisingly cheap (like $3/mo) but once the printer stopped reliably connecting to the internet and nobody could print wirelessly anymore with it, she canceled the subscription and HP DISABLED ALL OF THE INK CARTRIDGES. The cartridges themselves have wifi connections so HP can automatically send you new ink when they get low. What a scam.
JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 7 months ago
every time I see this screenshot I’m disappointed that it misses the photo of Ted Kaczynski he responded with
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 7 months ago
Get a brother printer
Loce@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Fuck HP. Simple as that.
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 7 months ago
I need to print once a year. When I do, I print at my local library.
Nikls94@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Never use a smart printer. If this is your only choice, make sure this dorker has no internet connection. If it does make any sudden movements, use the 9mm.
malloc@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It’s crazy how the people and govt have let this go on for so long. This has been a known issue with consumer grade printers for a long time now. I remember my parents bitching about ink costs when I was in grade school. Now these companies have raced to the bottom and are locking them down.
Personally, I have found myself to print less than a dozen pages per year. Usually it’s some government office that wants hard copy. For every instance, I just used my local Office Depot to handle all of my printing needs. So glad I don’t have to deal with printer bs
Holzkohlen@feddit.de 7 months ago
My old HP printer takes XL refills and HP can’t do a thing about it. I need them to know this too.
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I did an internship at an OEM that was the dying most of the revenue came from government make work money for economic development and selling machines to the 3rd world because they were too dangerous for first world.
Our high end products did this remote deactivation thing. Hated it at the time still hate it today.
timewarp@lemmy.world 7 months ago
That is frustrating for sure, but they prob should have read their agreement when they purchased whatever subscription they signed up for. It’s like complaining that T-Mobile has locked their subscription-discounted phone despite them not paying the bill.
LemmyQuest@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Wait a second, people still use printers in 2024!
ramble81@lemm.ee 7 months ago
And while you’re at it, get a laser printer.
RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Join the wendigoon trail, REBEAL
Rhaedas@fedia.io 7 months ago
It's uncanny how any post about problems with HP always has the same solution in the comments. Brother.
In related news, learning what Audi is doing with their new model and subscriptions makes me think the world has gone mad.
yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com 7 months ago
It’s a good brand. I have their laser printer and it’s great. No annoying registration, 3rd party toner cartridges are allowed. Super fast compared to inkjet. Overall a great experience compared to my HP printer which won’t let me scan unless I register on the HP app.
anonymouse@lemmings.world 7 months ago
I have a network enabled model from Brother and it’s never once shown up on my pi-hole. I’m a fan for life. Will never buy an HP printer again.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Bought a second hand brother laser because of the meme. am not disappointed.
Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Which model did you get?
odium@programming.dev 7 months ago
Unfortunately all the options in that industry are shit.
amanaftermidnight@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Enshittification hitting the physical realm is pain.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Not $250/yr for WiFi & nav that you’re referring to, no?
Nor 2019’s scheme which sounds like $1000/mo to drive any of several different Audis?
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bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 7 months ago
$1000/month to rent a car? Lol
MeanEYE@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Because they are no bullshit brand. You get what you pay for. Open the box, put it somewhere, connect to WIFI and forget about it. The moment you need it, it will happily spring to life without complaints and then go back to sleep.
It’s hardly believable how problem-free these printers are. They have a bunch of models, but you always get what you pay for. Laser is this much, a bit more expensive is LAN model, a bit more LAN+WIFI, then higher up scanner added, etc. They also work without drivers on Linux. Company also allows recycled and third party toners. In my case they are even faster to receive data and print than any other printer I’ve had. They even don’t send statistics back home, even though they are network connected.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 months ago
If you want a non-Brother recommendation, find one of the old HP OfficeJets. Those things were figuratively and perhaps literally bulletproof.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 months ago
My 5P didn’t survive the 2012 move. RIP
Rhaedas@fedia.io 7 months ago
We had a 5P back in the Win98 days, and it was exactly what you'd expect a printer to be. The refills were pricey, but they'd last a long time (we printed a lot then). And you could get a bit more life out of an empty drum if you shook the hell out it.
I do wonder about compatibility with Win10/11 at this point. I know some other old devices I still have around are all but impossible to get to work.
Nikls94@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You will earn nothing and be happy.
Meanwhile cheapskates who buy used old products, renew them and use them: happy.
Bleach7297@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
I have a brother multifunction laser printer scanner thing. It is a cheap piece of crap with flaky wireless.
Unlike the HP printers I’ve had or worked with, with the Brother I feel like I at least get what I pay for… but it’s a pretty low bar.
teamevil@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I bet the Audi model (pricing) is relying of folks leasing vs buying the cars. I can see how they could cram this on a car someone will only have a couple years vs a purchase.
Personally I’d spend the 800 for VAGcom and make a business unlocking cars features.
Death_Equity@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Any of the luxury brands are smart moves to lease because they depreciate while being under a needed warranty.
Anyone who buys a luxury car new and keeps it past the bumper to bumper is not smart with money.