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I don't have money to pay premium to not see ads. What in the world makes you think that I have money to buy what you are advertising me?

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Submitted ⁨⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨capuccino@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨showerthoughts@lemmy.world⁩

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  • kepix@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    the advertisement doesnt suppose to be some out of reach thing. more than likely targeted. also if you cant block ads or use modded apps you might be on apple, which means you probably will buy it.

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  • TheFogan@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Why do you think some of the most advertised things are… predatory loans and gambling.

    Honestly for me the worse of it is, basically on linkedin and similar, people pretending to be recruiters, opening with a fake job posting and asking for your resume, then to follow it up with "Hey you know I don’t think this resume is going to get by, can I put you in contact with my resume company, they will sharpen up your resume for $300. Umm… so yeah, don’t know if you guessed this, but I have no clue when my next paycheck is coming in, this isn’t the time to ask me to drop a large amount of money on something that may not do anything.

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    • HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      ugh yeah. the gambling. I mean that one is straight out like. play our game and you will make millions guaranteed. I mean with that voice saying the bank account balance thing. this should be crazy illegal. Im a big victimless crimes person but I have to say I would like advertising for adult things to be limited to adult venues. I don’t think they should allow gambling sites to even be listed in app stores or be indexed by search engines but like if your at a bar or strip club they could have a poster with a QR code.

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      • BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        “Victimless crime” has always been kind of a grey term anyway. There are two sides to the types of things that refers to.

        Doing drugs? Being a prostitute? Gambling your money away? Victimless crimes.

        Manufacturing drugs? Being a pimp? Running a casino? I’m not so sure.

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    • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And nowdays you just know their $300 “service” is going to be “run it through an LLM.”

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    • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There’s zero ads for loans and gambling where I am since it’s illegal. So that’s not relevant everywhere.

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      • I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        It’s also demographic based. I get ads for hormones to fix the perimenopause, weed gummies and comfy pants.

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  • definitely_AI@feddit.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    While we’re clearing out the air, if I buy your shitty product, why do I still need to see your fucking ads?

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    • Delphia@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Or worse.

      Theres a product I need, never seen an ad for it. Go online, buy it. Thats all my ads are for the next 3 months like I’m some sort of fucking collector now.

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      • MerryJaneDoe@lemmy.world ⁨33⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        And, closely related, the recurring “auto ship” suggestion for items like electric razors or oven mitts.

        Yep, you nailed it, Alexa, I absolutely need one of these shipped every fucking week. Saved me so much hassle!

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  • Kushan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I appreciate the sentiment because I also hate ads, but just because you’re not spending your disposable income on premium doesn’t mean you couldn’t theoretically spend it on something else.

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  • SparkyBauer44@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is exactly how I feel when a monthly bill goes up as result of missed payment, I missed because I’m laid off and broke. What makes them think turning up the heat will result in me suddenly having money appear?

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  • Echolynx@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s not just about purchasing, but also reputation, familiarity, etc.

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  • Goretantath@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    People keep saying that ads are to get the brand into my head, but they dont realise thats a bad thing for the company. I specificly buy brands i DONT see ads for because i believe if they arent spending money on ads but are still being sold in storesz they must be spending that money on bettering the product instead.

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    • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Sadly, you’re not the norm. Getting the brand into peoples’ heads actually works in most cases, which is why they keep doing it.

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      • fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s insane to me how little thought people put into things in their daily lives, because you’re right. So many period people see a thing and they’re like “Oh, I see the thing. I’ll do the thing. Coke flavored mouthwash on my TV? Yeah, let’s do coke flavored mouthwash.” Literally just the first unfiltered, uncritical reaction they feel.

        I had someone the other day tell me they didn’t want to use Firefox because when they did it gave them a bunch of security issues. The security issues in question were the browser asking them if they wanted to let different websites know their location, have access to webcam, etc.

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    • thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      seems strange to me that this (in the attached image) isn’t the normal way people think

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  • eezeebee@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    On the other hand, you never see ads for beans and yet you can’t stop thinking about them.

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    • knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Are you sure the Bud Spencer and Terrace Hill movies haven’t been a ad campaign by big Beans?

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    • D_C@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Rubbish, I can stop thinking about beans any time I want.
      …
      …
      Mmmmmmm, beans on toast with a bit of cheese. DAMNIT!

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  • InvalidName2@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They aren’t worried in the literal you, in one sense.

    Advertising is a temporal numbers game. Any one random single individual (or household) at any given time is insignificant. You are a speck of dust in the wind.

    On the flip side, advertising is (or can be) a long game. At the moment you may be too young, too poor, too healthy, too whatever for their ads to be relevant. However, if they advertise enough and you see enough of these ads, it can make an impression (even if subliminal). And down the line when you’re old enough to need dick pills and making just enough to afford them, you’re now aware that dick pills exist and suddenly now that you’re in the market for dick pills your reptilian brain will remember that jingle “Like a rock” and how Dicken’s dick pills are the key to feeling 18 again. Suddenly you’re sucking down Dicken’s pills like they’re candy.

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  • Krudler@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The fact that McDonald’s exists is proof that advertising works.

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  • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Especially when it’s for vacation spots, booking sites, or luxury cars. Keep spending that money for no return, guys, because absolutely none of that is happening. (I want to say “not happening anytime soon,” but who am I kidding? I’m already in my upper 30s and I can’t fathom making that kind of money.)

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I find it wild that people are still under the impression that advertising doesn’t work. I get it, you block ads, you aggressively ignore them, you feel like they never influence you. Same here. But they do influence us. A little bit here and there. Then consider that most people are way more suggestible than we are. If ads didn’t work, they would’ve never been a thing.

    You might think you cannot afford to buy most things advertised, but the numbers don’t lie. They’ll get you eventually. Even if it’s just $3. Not having money never really stopped people from spending it anyhow.

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    • rbos@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It is because it works that I spend so much time trying to block them. I don’t need them trying to manipulate me, gaslight me, or try to convince me I need shit I don’t want.

      It’s incredibly toxic.

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    • SippyCup@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s unlikely that you’re exceptional in your resistance to advertising.

      It’s just that 95% of all advertising fails to hit its intended target.

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I am definitely in the vast minority of people who go so far to not see ads. Not many people will tinker with a raspberry pi for hours just to avoid the possibility of an ad appearing in video streaming services. Lemmy is a bubble that way. You’d rarely meet someone in real life that uses pihole for example but there’s thousands on here who do.

        And I think the number is higher than 95%. All it takes is a tiny percentage for it to all be worth it.

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    • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You might think you cannot afford to buy most things advertised, but the numbers don’t lie. They’ll get you eventually. Even if it’s just $3.

      Do you really believe that? $3 isn’t going to get me the things I see ads for that I’d actually be tempted by. As to things $3 or below, I’m never shopping at the craft store that hates gay people. I’m never buying from the top fast food places either. These are things I already made decisions on for moral reasons and I’ve never swayed on in all my years, so why on Earth would an ad make a difference?

      I don’t think advertisers (or those that think any old ad is bound to be effective) consider that there are some of us who make decisions based on our own criteria. I recognize that I’m not like most people, but to say that such ads are still going to “get [me] eventually” is nonsense.

      Not having money never really stopped people from spending it anyhow.

      Maybe for some, but that’s again not something that applies to everyone. I don’t even have a credit card. I’ve had nearly 20 years of adulthood in which to get one, have bought/leased cars and rented apartments without a problem (despite no card, paying off student loans means my credit score is pretty good), and I prefer the security of only spending money I’ve already got. Advertisers can have fun trying to squeeze blood money from a stone.

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I don’t really understand this comment. You actually really believe you are the one person in history completely unaffected by messaging? I cannot imagine thinking that. I have no doubt it would be trivial to disprove this to you in an in person conversation but I’m not getting dragged into an argument in here for it.

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      • Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You probably simply never noticed. Maybe the grocery chain you buy at. Maybe a particularly flashy packaging of a food item in said grocery store. Maybe an outrageous fun sex toy you saw in porn. Maybe you’re subscribed to a Patreon somewhere. Maybe you have a t-shirt of your favorite show. Do you really make all these decisions completely conscious of all advertising you saw before, making sure that you do not miss any better alternatives with worse advertising?

        No person can think so much about all their decisions to spend money. No one can be so perfectly conscious of every single sensory input. Advertising works on everyone, you just don’t even notice when it works on you.

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  • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They don’t care, they get paid to show you the ads. And the people spending to get the ads delivered aren’t given very good demographics or proof that the people seeing them are good candidates, all they know is that people are watching them and that some of those people click through.

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    • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I have always wanted to meet somebody that’s clicked a targeted ad and bought the product. Even if I got an ad for something I wanted and it was a good price, I’d find a way to navigate around clicking it directly.

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  • EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because you are the demographic poor enough to be susceptible to the scams they advertise.

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  • HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What scares me is the political and military ads I see every so often. Along with other fud type things. Its nuts and kind of a relief to actually see an ad selling a physical product.

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    • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Oh, how about the ads for that insurance company that’s just for military families? Way to bark up the wrong tree. Even if the point is to subtly convince me to join the United States military, that’s still hilariously off-target. Never. gonna. happen.

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      • HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        those and even the charity ones kinda grate on me. We need to do stuff for americans who when young nonchalantly signed off on being willing to kill when told to but fuck other americans.

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  • FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because you might have money someday

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  • YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because you saved that money so that you could buy their product!

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  • Lumidaub@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I mean, I’m too stingy to pay for premium but I do buy detergent.

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    • capuccino@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t know what to buy till I got to the store and see the prices.

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      • Lumidaub@feddit.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Not to sound like your mum but that may be why you don’t have money.

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And if the prices are similar, you’re more likely to buy the brand you’ve seen advertised more often. Maybe even if you have to pay more. Or even if you won’t, most other people would.

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  • TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    People who make financial decisions also tend to be poor. It’s worse than that, those types of ads prey on the vulnerable.

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  • AskewLord@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They don’t care about you. They care about the people that do have the money.

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    • Lumidaub@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Those people would pay for ad-free.

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      • AskewLord@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        No they wouldn’t. I’m of those people. I don’t pay for ad free.

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      • trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Some would, but it always surprises me to see how many people don’t appear to be bothered by ads.

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      • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Exactly.

        Annoy you into paying.

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      • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Lol. Plenty of people who have money and don’t.

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  • zerobot@lemmy.wtf ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    they just want you to look at it

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  • Diddlydee@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The platform owner gets paid for letting the advertiser run the ads regardless of what you do.

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  • FishFace@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Do you buy anything, ever? Then you have money, and can be swayed by advertising in terms of what you spend it on.

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    • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I did this exercise a few days ago. It turns out I’m so out of the broad reach of advertisements, that most of the brands and products I buy, I know them from in-shop ads or from early and mid childhood, when I watched way too much TV. I absolutely buy several brands and products for which I’ve never, in my entire life, ever seen an ad on the internet or TV. There, the main selling point is how atrociously evil the parent corporation is. I can’t avoid them entirely, but I can choose the lesser evils.

      Now I’m very anti advertisement and aggressively prune that shit from my life, more than the average person. But it makes me hopeful that a less exploitative life is possible in this cursed timeline.

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  • morto@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ads from giant corporations aren’t just about selling something to you, but to keep the brand’s name in your head and influence you into having a good psychological image of it. it’s also used as a form of influencing the culture of a population. They do a lot of research into how to more efficiently affect your mind, even if you don’t notice it.

    That’s why I recommend blocking ads and/or moving away from those services (the high seas welcome you)

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    • thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      is this (in the image) really not the normal way of thinking

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  • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You see ads?

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  • ThePantser@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I hate ads so much that I even blocked ads back in the day on NetZero to get free internet ad free. I have been blocking since Internet 1.0.

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  • bitteroldcoot@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The advertisers are doing the same math as the spam calls and emails. Basically if one in 10,000 bite, that’s all they need to stay in business. Ads, and spam both target stupid desperate easily manipulated people. The fact that you also see it, and show distain in now way affects their business model.

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  • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You’re not the target audience.

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  • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The sad reality: All that means is that the corporations don’t care about you. But the ad sellers can still use you to pad views.

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  • pelley@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    All I ever see are political ads and geriatric pharmaceutical ads.

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