YSK a US passport card costs $30 and is definitive proof of citizenship. It fits in your wallet like a credit card.

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• mech@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  YSK a card in your wallet won’t help you much when an ICE agent points a gun at your head and tells you your passport looks fake, without even looking at it.

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  • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If this form factor for ID isn’t well known enough for them to know about it, I doubt they received training on its existence.

    Which means having this card will make them assume it’s fake default, therefore increasing their deluded suspicions, rather than reducing them.

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    • mech@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I doubt they received training on its existence.

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    • Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The problem is not lack of training. This isn’t a “whoopsie-poopsie”. They’re doing it on purpose and if someone looks brown enough they get kidnapped. With luck they get released later.

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    • anomnom@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      They already did this to people with Real ID drivers licenses, which have the same requirements to acquire as a passport.

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  • dhork@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The main advantage is that it’s a redundant form of citizenship ID. ICE can always say it is fake and confiscate it, but then you have your passport book waiting at home for your lawyer to take to the detention center to get you out (once they find out where they took you).

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    • moody@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Most Americans don’t own a passport in the first place.

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    • athatet@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Why would they let your lawyer find out where they took you?

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  • HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yeah, but you’re at least a little more likely to survive.

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    • bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Image

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• roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You should know that you are not required to identify yourself to the gestapo. This post is in un-American.

  The way to combat these idiots is everyone refusing to show identification .

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  • chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Thank you. Papers, Please isn’t the ending we need to run to. They can’t treat us like criminals cause they feel like it

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  • NateNate60@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    While I agree with the sentiment behind your post, this is like waving a copy of the Weimar constitution to the Gestapo.

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    • IronBird@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      i dont get what anyone’s so worried about, as a straight white man cops don’t seem to give me any trouble when i present my papers

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  • Trilogy3452@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I thought that you did within 100m of an airport

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Metes not miles

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• OshagHennessey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  YSK if ICE thinks you’re too brown, they’ll just say yours is fake and deport you anyway. It’s already happened to US citizens.

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  • quips@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Source on this please!

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    • OshagHennessey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Here’s two:

      newsweek.com/us-citizen-detained-ice-told-his-rea…

      www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/…/ar-AA1SDQ6G

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• bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Lmao it’s been shown multiple times that even with a passport shown to ICE they’ll just call it fake if they want to abduct you.

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  • Otherbarry@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yup I was going to comment the same. The physical passport might be useful after the fact once you’re in ICE holding being processed after x amount of hours/days. But then again at that point they would look you up in their systems so having the physical passport in your wallet may end up being a waste of time anyway.

    The fact is if the ICE goon squad you encounter feels like arresting and detaining US citizens they’re going to do it.

    And that’s assuming the ICE goons don’t make up charges of assaulting them or similar, in which case I’m not sure if those US citizens being charged get released with a future court date or are detained indefinitely.

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    • Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world [bot] ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It would’ve been amazing if most of the US had come together, did a general strike, or another massive daily protest like BLM to tell this regime to fuck the fuck off. But instead we step piecemeal closer and closer to something worse. If we didn’t resist on Step C, then on to Step D they go.

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  • NateNate60@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This is actually not super common. I was personally stopped by them and I was let go after showing my passport card. Ideally, ICE should not be arresting any citizens, but it happens anyway because they’ll hire anyone who can breathe and do a decent seig heil. Nonetheless, a thing that works 80% of the time is still worth having.

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    • lolo@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It is happening all day, every day. Your one experience is your one experience. You are denying the experiences of, right now, countless others. Every response you have is, “but when it happened to me.” Cool. It might be different for Somalis in MN right now than it was for Americans with Asian heritage weeks ago in Portland. You are telling a whole group of people to deny their eyes, ears, and rational thought because you had an encounter with one agent on one day.

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• PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  “YSK you should comply with authoritarian governments”

  Yall are so fucking cooked.

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  • Typhoon@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Watch the comments advocating for resisting the fascist takeover and see the excuses and downvotes pour in.

    So cooked.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      “You Americans all are cowards for not doing anything against the fascists besides protesting!”

      “okay what do you suggest?”

      “I’m not gonna say! But you 2nd amendment people should definitely think of something”

      “dude I’m not going to travel 1000 miles and shoot the most protected person on the planet”

      “woah where did I say that? Americans are so violent and uncreative! you have to do something along the lines of the French revolution though”

      This same conversation repeated over and over with the same bad faith assholes every day. It gets so very tiring to read.

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    • PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Fucking stewed.

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• TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Still seems like a hassle to have to pull that out. They should design something that’s more outwardly noticeable like a piece of clothing or maybe just a simple armband they can wear over their clothes that signifies they’re jewis-I mean legal or whatever.

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  • huppakee@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Or just a stamp saying ‘this person is unwanted but haven’t found a reason to get rid of them yet’ so you can show to the next ice ‘agent’ you’ve already been harassed earlier.

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  • Drbreen@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Or maybe a tattoo on their forehead!

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  • cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Apple has been trying to get states/governments to let them add their ID to Apple Wallet for years now. Only a handful of states have complied. I’m not sure if you can add a passport.

    The most common misconception is that a cop will take your phone and have access to all your personal information plus they’re in your phone. That’s not how it’s intended to work (but absolutely can regardless of whether your state supports digital ID). The intended use is much like paying for goods, they hold up a reader, you open Wallet and select your ID, tap your phone to their reader, and they can see all the relevant information. And it’s encrypted and all that.

    Of course, I’m talking about cops following procedure, not thugs working directly for Trump.

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    • cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I would advise never using your phone. That just cant end well.

      Your phone should never be involved in your interactions with cops. You should literally shut it down

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• VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It won’t stop them. Immigration and customs already had a large amount of unchecked power prior to this administration, but under this administration there isn’t anything they care about. They’ve been murdering people in cold blood across multiple blue states for a while now.

  Besides that, if people start panicking and trying this then the necessary venues that people have to go to for their first passport(you have to show up in person for your first passport) could become ICE targets or places they stalk. It’s not exactly uncommon knowledge that conservatives tend to not bother getting passports either.

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• makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  My goodness. I can’t believe we are living in this era of fascism.

  Good luck United States folk.

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Definitive proof of citizenship won’t stop ICE from beating or killing you if you have an accent or non-white skin.

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  • hector@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The admin is hating in white people too. You might have heard of that white woman executed on false pretense recently, celebrated by leadershio.

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    • Natanael@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      They’re targeting anybody who challenges their authority, starting with people who look different (foreigners first)

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  • BussyGyatt@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    what if i don’t have an accent or non-white skin? they won’t beat me, right?

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    • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      They might still just execute you in the street if they think you’re talking back to them shrug

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    • derpgon@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Usually

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  • NateNate60@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I am not going to lie and say it’s 100% effective. But it most certainly will quickly get you out of ICE’s attention 80% of the time when you are not wanting a confrontation at that time.

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    • destructdisc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      From what I’m seeing, ICE doesn’t give a flying fuck if you have a valid ID or not, they’re still going to collar you. Their policy is literally to fuck around first and find out later.

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    • lolo@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’d love to know where 80% comes from. Because I’m in Minnesota and can see what’s happening on our streets. Where are you getting your info from? You sound soooooo sure of yourself and what you are saying contradicts evidence.

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• Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You think ICE cares? You think ICE even understands that?

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  • NateNate60@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I have been stopped by ICE and was let go after showing my passport card.

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    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Work will set you free.

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• monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  If you have to prove you hand rights then no one has rights.

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• myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  “This isn’t real” -ICEcuck

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• wolfpack86@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Alternate title:

  Give the government $30 to stop violating your civil liberties

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  • lunardroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Give the government $30 to maybe stop violating your civil liberties

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• nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  A REAL ID is also valid proof of citizenship. ICE clearly does not care.

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  • BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You’re incorrect on that www.usatoday.com/story/travel/…/88032182007/

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    • nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      All this tells you is that ICE indeed does not care.

      reason.com/…/dhs-says-real-id-which-dhs-certifies…

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  • NateNate60@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    REAL IDs are not proof of citizenship. They’re proof that you had legal status at the time of their issue.

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• Cyberflunk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  YSK, you don’t need a fucking passport to be safe in this country. FUCK ICE AND RESIST

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• kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Papers please

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  • digdilem@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Or wear a star on your jacket for everyone to see.

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  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    “Ihre Papiere, bitte.”

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• doublenut@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You’re trolling right? No one should need to unlawfully identify themselves at the bequest of nazis.

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  • NateNate60@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    What should be is not the same as what is.

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    • cheesybuddha@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Don’t comply

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    • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What IS is that they don’t care about little pieces of paper in your wallet.

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Should is a funny word

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• Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Apparently ICE doesn’t have to look at it.

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  • bytesonbike@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Ah, just like Trump wanted.

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• chillpanzee@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Would be a useful tip in a world where ICE follows the law.

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• PointyFluff@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’m 100% not showing my papers.

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  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I have papers, they’re holstered and chambered. there’s about 17 pages of papers too.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yeah fuck this.

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• arin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Ysk papers please within boarders is a regime in turmoil.

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• xorollo@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Many others have pointed out multiple probably even more important issues with this. I’d just like to add that it’s actually $30 to the state department and another $30 to the processing department (like the post office if you take it there) and another processing fee for the photograph.

  Mine was closer to $100 and cannot be used for international air travel.

  So unless you’re planning a cruise or a land crossing, this is a $100 fee to try to avoid getting arrested.

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  • NateNate60@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You can take your own photograph or re-use a previous one. It’s free to apply through the post office. Just $30 for the fee to issue one. That’s all I paid for mine.

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• Pulsar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Having a passport card will definitely make it easier for the deportation official to release you after assault you, put you in handcuffs and take you to the station for speaking Spanish in a Mexican restaurant.

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• Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Colored man reaching for something in his jacket or pants?

  YSK he’s about to get shot.

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  • elbarto777@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I was about to downvote you for “colored”, but then saw what you did there.

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• Hello_there@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  YSK: you want to take up as much time as possible (depending on your needs) when talking to ICE. One minute talking to you is one minute they're not teargassing an infant.

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  • Nastybutler@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Like that white lady who put a Mexican flag decal on her rear window just so she could be a decoy to waste their time pulling her over instead of those with darker complextions

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• ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  What a time to be alive.

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• traxex@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I will absolutely refuse any unlawful order to see my “papers”.

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• gustofwind@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  They can still just detain you because they can steal it or say there’s no way to verify your passport or ID isn’t fraudulent without further investigation so how about you spend a few days or weeks in jail while we sort it out 😉

  But yes it is still a good idea and won’t hurt

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• HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Do not do this if you are transgender or have an X gender marker.

  Warnins should probably be bigger and up front, but that’s just me

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• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Reach for your wallet and get blasted.

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