Submitted 1 day ago by Blisterexe@lemmy.zip to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theverge.com/news/799768/microsoft-windows-ai-copilot-voice-vision-launch
“We think we’re on the cusp of the next evolution, where AI happens not just in that chatbot and gets naturally integrated into the hundreds of millions of experiences that people use every day,” says Yusuf Mehdi, executive vice president and consumer chief marketing officer at Microsoft, in a briefing with The Verge. “The vision that we have is: let’s rewrite the entire operating system around AI, and build essentially what becomes truly the AI PC.”
…yikes
Yeah, and I’m sure it also wanted middle managers to write COBOL.
I like Windows. I like AI. But this like is based on me having ownership over them. Microsoft is what has convinced me to move to Linux when an official SteamOS Desktop is released.
Or you can just as easily install a Linux distro, because that’s all steamOS is but slightly game-ified. If anything you’d probably have a better desktop experience with a distro built with that in mind.
And if you want a SteamOS-like experience, check out Bazzite and Nobara, they’re designed around gaming.
But pretty much any Linux distro can have a similar experience without much effort.
Valve could easily enter the OS space. They have hardware and a dedicated user-base. They’ve built some good will with the Linux community. They’re already doing the work to make other stuff work well with Linux. I’m not always a fan of walking too close to the corporate edge with paid software and DRM and proprietary blobs and whatever, but at this point we have to figure out how to get everyone out of Windows, even 100 year old Grandma Geraldine who plays bejeweled on Facebook all day. I probably won’t run SteamOS as a primary OS, but if I could dual boot it instead of Win10 on my gaming PC that would lesson the pain of MS’s betrayal and the loss of some Windows-only games a little bit.
Not a week goes by without a headline reminding me what a good decision it was to jump ship to Linux.
Beyond that sounding tedious as fuck, how much will that actually improve workflow? Or is this one of those features that sounds good to people with C level intelligence, and the rest of us just have to pretend we’re using.
Yeah, I absolutely hate talking to devices, it’s inefficient and frustrating. Why would I want that as the primary interface to my computer?
Complex UX should be solved in two ways:
If I’m asking an AI tool how to do something with your product, you need to fix your product.
This has been a Microsoft wishlist feature since the 90s. I remember being a kid and reading articles in my dad’s copies of PC Magazine that Bill Gates wanted a computer without a keyboard that you could just talk to and tell it what to do.
So yeah, C-level intelligence is exactly right.
Please stop! I can only love my Linux machines so much!
Yeah, but we have a choice as to whether we want to run it or not.
Linux isn’t a single distro though so just hop to one that doesn’t have it for those who don’t want it.
Microsoft:
Your computer?
No.
Our computer.
That you pay for the hardware for, that you pay regular rent to use in any way, that we use for anything we want, at any time, that must be always online to function.
Innovation.
I can only imagine the utter chaos this would cause in a cube farm.
But, the only place where talking to your computer at length makes any sense whatsoever is where you’re alone in a private office and nobody outside of the office can hear you. Nobody wants to hear other people talking to their computer, and nobody wants other people listening to what they’re doing on the computer.
My spouse and I both work from home and keep our office doors open so that the cats can come and go. We have absolutely no interest in hearing each other work. I know couples that share a home office. It’s like these fucknut executives at M$ think everyone either lives alone or has a private office in the east wing of their McMansion.
And all of that is ignoring the fact that you shouldn’t need AI to interpret what somebody wants a computer to do. Discreet commands for discreet tasks have been a thing for as long as computers have existed and there’s no reason for that to change, regardless of the input method. Making commands fuzzy and open to interpretation is not an improvement.
I was curious about an LLM-powered terminal, so downloaded it to check it out. The first thing I did was ask it to do something like “open my resume file,” and instead doing something like “ls | grep -i resume” in the current directory, it ran the find command on root and started hitting all my NFS mounts as well.
well do you want something that has an 80% chance of finding it in 2 seconds… or something that has a 99% chance of finding it in 38 hours? (and yeah, duh the obviously rational thing to do would be to try one or 2 layers of the quick methods, say “did this find it or do you want me to look deeper”.
Microsoft has no say what happens on my workstation, and never had any.
The hell with that, fuck you MS.
Nah I’m good I don’t dig talking to inanimate objects.
Can it be disabled?
yes, with a usb drive containing Linux installation media
Not worth considering. Even if one can disable it now, we can’t teuat that they won’t disable that option eventually.
Just use Linux and these questions become “Oh no. Anyways…”.
I am just not sure all my shit would run on Linux. Does Linux have a windows GUI? Do all the steam games have Linux compatability? Is there a Linux version of Windows Defender?
If they have problems it might be retarded.
HOT CILFS IN A 3 MILE RADIUS WANT TO TALK TO YOU
CILF = China (Shenzhen) International Logistics and Supply Chain Fair?
“We are on the cusp of the next AI evolution, in which we, the tech company, can simply say the word ‘Money’ to our AI, and it will automatically transfer money directly from our investors into our wallets. Future versions won’t require us to say anything, permitting AIs to write their own next press release for budding, just-around-the-corner technology in an E-mail to investors.”
I love the idea!
I absolutely despise it when it is locked down from the user, owned by the corporation that produced it, and operating as an arm of the surveillance state.
Those monstrosities are not allowed in my home until I can remove the spyware operating system.
The thought of how the computer would react to me telling my cat to get down off the desk is . . . both amusing and disturbing.
Then it’s a good thing it’s been a very long time since I last had to care about what Microsoft wants me to do with my computers.
Someone watched Star Trek and took their interfaces a bit too literally
Star Trek interfaces are great…. If the tech is there to back them up.
In this case… not so much.
Would that be helpful? Probably. Would it be as private? It could be, but not the way they want to do it. The potential benefit does not outweigh the downsides they’re “value adding”.
They are like two to three years out from this being viable in the slightest. If they push this it will be hilariously disastrous.
We always knew AI would lead to this one day. But it you ask me that this day is still far away. We‘re not there yet.
I thought home assistants already taught us that designated buttons and switches are simply faster and more reliable than voice control?
Yikes.
I am already uncomfortable when my mom talks with her phone to search Google. But hey, she is 83 years old and her health is declining. Maybe she does not need so much privacy any more.
But here is a sad story: I have two friends, a couple. Both are automation engineers. They could not have kids, which was their dream. So instead, they built their dream house. A beautiful house. And, if course, with a lot of automation. Shutters which open in the morning and close when it is stormy. A shower which plays the right morning radio program. Extra settings for when parents-in-law visit.
But what makes me uncomfortable is voice control by speech recognition. All that cortana/siri stuff. For everything, even switching in the light. I don’t like that when I visit people. For me, it is like somebody is always listening, even to stuff that is meant only for my friends ears.
I have bot told them, but I don’t like that house.
They don’t listen all the time, only when you say “Hey Cortana / Hey Siri”. But in order to hear that command, they probably have to listen all the time…
ehm.
I don’t want to meet it.
im supposed to talk to it and it still cant suck my dick
Meet the computer! You can talk to!
Isn’t there a version of win11 like Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC?
Gotta get that. All stripped, just the OS and security.
So basically what they got in XP (or earlier) already but 1000x the power reuirements.
ironically im sorta hoping to see this with linux were even installation uses a small local chatbot that guides the installation and then the os is chatbot centric where one of the things you do as you use is allow it to use additional resources to get more capability.
in a transparent and optional way it could be good. like even if just with controlling the screen with voice commands, like clicks this, open that. but only if it’s fully offline and easily auditable.
in a transparent and optional way it could be good
You people say this, but then MS ponders the release of a local-only Recall and everybody loses their shit…
I mean online in the same way when you install today it will grab updates (so optional) and I don’t want all linux distros to be like this of course. I will be excited by what creative ways it can be used. I would be very annoyed if any linux distro were using a remote part of chat except for downloads. I doubt it would given how expensive it would be.
Hahaha, Ali G is the best! A VERY dumb junglist? What’s not to love?
That was Windows 11 user
I don’t hate Windows, but it seems like every day Microsoft gives me reasons to be thankful I’m a Mac user.
Either go all in with Microsoft’s crap, pay for Microsoft 365, and enjoy the ride — or learn Linux. It’s easy, you can run it off a portable SSD. You don’t have to trash your Windows installation. You can do it virtually risk free. I recommend Ubuntu for new users, but Linux Mint is another good choice and it resembles Windows more, so it will be more familiar to you. Linux has never been better. It’s not just a free alternative to Windows; it is very much its own thing. Or, if you aren’t a gamer, and you need new hardware anyway… I’d grab a Mac mini. They’re $500 and they do everything you need. Gaming not so much (though we did just get Cyberpunk this year).
ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 day ago
What. Could. Go. Wrong.
oppy1984@lemdro.id 1 day ago
I’m sorry Dave, I can’t do that.
Sundiata@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Hacker: load up all sensitive documents, give me the most used text document with passwords. send it to custom email. begin encryption, delete encryption key. shut down.
Hacker: I love the fact that microsoft is so fucking stupid.
ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Replace “Hacker” with “Owner of Troll YouTube Channel”, which will inevitably be AI generated too.