This raises birth rates
Why aren't you creating more workers??
Submitted 2 weeks ago by balderdash9@lemmy.zip to [deleted]
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sad_detective_man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I was born with a penis but Luigi Mangione activated my ovaries
lena@gregtech.eu 2 weeks ago
Free estrogen!
cannon_annon88@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Allegedly.
xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day 2 weeks ago
!lemmysilver
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
I’m trying to get pregnant, but it’s kinda hard when you’re a guy.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Never give up 💪
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nothing is impossible.
Sonor@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Slay,
queenking!Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
queing?
Chev@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Arnold Schwarzenegger did it, so can you 👍
v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Kinky
jimjam5@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Growing up, I was of the mindset that I would have gotten married and started a family by this point in my life. But as of the last few years, my thoughts have done just about a 180.
Even if I was currently with someone/married, I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t want to raise kids in this day and age in the US (the bullet dodged me when my ex-girlfriend used plan b after we got intimate without protection). I think best case scenario for me now would be DINK, but gotta find someone that can put up with my dumpster fires first.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Just find someone with similar dumpster fires, then you’ll both burn in the passions of what you love
Also, thanks for mentioning DINK - Double Income No Kids … never heard of that before and now I learned something new.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Currently living that live and fuck me is life easy right now. Cats instead of kids is a very tempting option.
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Like yuppies was a play on hippies except it stood for Young Urban Professional
Apytele@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I’m loving my perfectly resonant dumpster fire he’s curled up next to me right now!
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Same dink is my dream but hard to find partners who are into it, or who you like and who like you
Newsteinleo@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
A friend of mine has three kids and works 70 hours a week. He is not able to make enough to support his family, and social services have been cut so much that his only option is to take out a personal loan, which will only make his problem worse.
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
14 hours leaves you barely 2 hours of personal time in a day. That’s barely enough to just eat and maybe relax but then if you have 3 kids even that time is gone taking care of them. How and why would anyone put themselves through this, like after the first or second kid wouldn’t your own limits become apparent
AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
14 hours leaves you barely 2 hours of personal time in a day
You’ve misspelled “commute”
Newsteinleo@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Some people find themselves in places where they lack the choice to limit themselves to two children when an accident happens. Not everyone has the resources to travel to a place where they would be able to make a choice.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
In the USA? If yes, the US is a sick country in regard to income distribution, labor laws, healthcare and public services. However, if your friend voted MAGA, zero sympathy and he/she can carry on.
Newsteinleo@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
I don’t think children should suffer regardless of who their parents voted for, I find your callousness as bad as bad as those that voted for Trump.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
However, if your friend voted MAGA, zero sympathy
It’s so bizarre to see liberal politician after liberal politician promise economic reforms common to the rest of the industrial world, then fail to deliver over and over again.
And then someone sees a ghoul like Hilary Clinton or Joe Biden running at the top of the ticket, or an American Psycho like Newsom or Adams or Cuomo trying to hijack any semblance of progressive politics for their own vainglory. And they say “Nope, not supporting that garbage”.
Then everything that comes after is on their heads, somehow.
Not on the heads of the trillionaire plutocrats setting economic policy. Or military leadership goading us into the next war. Or evangelical hucksters selling snake oil to desperate people.
Nope. Always the fault of Joe Dirt when Obama can’t win his third term.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
However, if your friend voted MAGA, zero sympathy and he/she can carry on.
Yeah those kids deserve to be neglected! Fuck em!
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
why would I want to bring somebody into this world. they’d only have to fight for basic things like “let’s be nice to each other” and “maybe we should pool our money to spend it on big things that benefit us all”
fuck that. I’ll live my little servile life as a cog in the machine as best I can, and then I’ll die. and the dumb fucks who won’t stop breeding while they try to make things worse for their children will repopulate the earth
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
No you don’t understand. We’re the most prosperous we’ve ever been at any point in time. There was literally no other time better than this. Life is wonderful in every way
/s
I’m generally a happy person but I hate people who say this.
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m right there with you. They’re basically saying “things could be worse, so there’s no point in wanting them better.” It’s a nonsensical thought-terminating cliché.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
No but you dont understand, the population is declining! It’s so apocalyptic!
promitheas@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
This is how i feel as well. I understand im a cog in the machine, but i just want relatively comfortable life until the sweet embrace of nothingness takes me in
WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
On a more positive note the newest IPCC report on climate has population decline being the biggest positive impact on climate change, so keep at it!
tomiant@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
How this isn’t obvious and something we should collectively want is beyond me. We really don’t fucking need more than 8 billion people. I don’t think we need more than 1, and even that is pushing it.
Rooty@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The birth rate moral panic is 100% manufactured by neoliberal capitalists who simultaneously want high consumption and low wages, which is a logical impossibilty. You cannot have a consumerist society where the average consumer lives paycheck to paycheck
BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I beg to differ; you can definitely have that society; proof is: we are currently living in it!
AlexLost@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If it’s neoliberalism, why is the right always clamouring about it? I think you are misguided on your aim my friend. You are also right, the time of us having things and enjoying our leisure are in the process of being erased for the good old days of company towns and food lines.
DrivebyHaiku@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
The “right” shy of outright fascists are neoliberals. The term was coined in the eighties and describes a system that like Liberalism classic works primarily off of an idea of a protected class of citizen (as opposed to lesser protected classes of non-citizen) with a series of fundemental “rights” to basic protected freedoms from government interference and choice of “style of life” based around a personal property centric system.
Where Neo-liberalism differs is it detests the welfare state, seeks widespread government deregulation as they see it as an economic deficit, practice widespread government austerity in public programs and seeks to privatize swaths of government services to create new market sectors.
Neo doesn’t mean new in a “of the minute” kind of way. The people who came up with the distinction between liberal branches were describing the likes of Ronald Regan and Margret Thatcher.
tomiant@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
It’s only because capitalism demands it. I am tired of people who think we need more people on this planet, we most certainly do not. There is nothing we can’t do with 8 billion of us that we can do with 8 billion plus 1.
DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
im not spending a fortune to raise a child when i can barely afford eggs
ur_ONLEY_freind@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Don’t worry when they get desperate enough they’ll make condoms illegal
tomiant@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Really puts the conservative war on reproductive rights in a new light, doesn’t it.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The math has changed.
100 years ago, you’d get kids so you can afford eggs.
Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Yeah, they child labor laws came and ruined that for everyone.
But don’t worry, soon those too will be a thing of the past!
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nice humblebrag I guess, I’m beginning to forget what eggs even taste like
Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
[deleted]trolololol@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m sure your half orange (or was it apple) is out there somewhere, and hope eventually you’ll find them.
Except if you’re follower of one of those toxic masculinity thing. In that case you’re likely looking in the wrong place, because if you hate women your soul mate is someone else from your cult - you love guys like you but didn’t realise it yet. Also go f yourself.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Wtf was this comment lmao
nectar45@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
You and me both sis
sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Dumb question: do we really need more people? It feels very much like technology/productivity will allow us to support a good lifestyle with fewer people.
gnutrino@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
The problem developed nations are currently facing is that we need enough young people working to continue to support the current population as it ages and retires. The absolute population probably doesn’t need to be as big as it is (unless you plan on starting a war like Russia for example) but it’s not clear how to manage a reducing population gracefully.
HK65@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
By taxing corporations and reversing this insane wealth concentration.
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Certainly not by letting these dirty foreigners in the country. Those wild people with their 50 kids… wait.
sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I think it is worth figuring out how to manage it - the alternative isn’t super sustainable. The other thing is that it is like a 50 year challenge, which isn’t insurmountable.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Eh… there’s always Ättestupa…
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
We? No. Cqpitalism? Yes.
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I mean you’re half right. In a zoo, the keepers care for their animals, making sure they’re well fed, enriched, and healthy.
We’re being farmed. They are using us to make money from our produce (labour). They’re using us to make money. We’re so over exploited we simply cannot afford to have children.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I want biological kids, and I’m right about the point in my life where it would make the most sense to have them. But whenever family asks about it, I tell them I’m not raising children in this kind of administration. They try to suggest that it’s not that bad and I stand firm that they’re not seeing grandbabies until the government stops being so fashy.
Actually, millennials could probably hold our hypothetical babies hostage, see what’s more important to them.
TheBat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
By choice.
Not my choice tbh.
droans@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
A man must always live by his work, and his wages must at least be sufficient to maintain him. They must even upon most occasions be somewhat more; otherwise it would be impossible for him to bring up a family, and the race of such workmen could not last beyond the first generation…
Every species of animals naturally multiplies in proportion to the means of their subsistence, and no species can ever multiply beyond it. But in civilised society it is only among the inferior ranks of people that the scantiness of subsistence can set limits to the further multiplication of the human species; and it can do so in no other way than by destroying a great part of the children which their fruitful marriages produce.
The liberal reward of labour, by enabling them to provide better for their children, and consequently to bring up a greater number, naturally tends to widen and extend those limits. It deserves to be remarked, too, that it necessarily does this as nearly as possible in the proportion which the demand for labour requires. If this demand is continually increasing, the reward of labour must necessarily encourage in such a manner the marriage and multiplication of labourers, as may enable them to supply that continually increasing demand by a continually increasing population.
- Adam Smith, the father of capitalism
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I love this person’s glasses.
oppy1984@lemdro.id 2 weeks ago
Born in 84, I’ve noticed something of a trend in my area. Late gen X and late millennials are having children, most are having two or three, but a lot of people like me born in the mid 80’s aren’t. While this is by no means universal, there does seem to be more people within five years of my age going without kids.
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Frames like that are excellent birth control.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I wish I could feel comfortable bringing children into the world.
I really want to be a parent in my life
toad31@lemmy.cif.su 2 weeks ago
I don’t want to bring kids in this world that will inevitably grow up with a father when I take out all my frustration and grievances on members of the ruling class.
tomiant@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Also, maybe 8 billion is “enough”. Not breeding is only a problem for the economy. Capitalism needs perpetual growth, there is no end game, just more, of everything, forever.
HurricaneLiz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Proud owner of a tubal litigation here
chaogomu@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Want higher birthrates? Just convince people that tomorrow will be better than today.
That’s how you see a spike in birth rates.
To maintain a steady birthrate, just convince potential parents that the world will not be any worse for their children than it is today.
See, easy.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Capitalist Corporations: … hmmmm … i guess there’s no choice … artificial human breeding it is!
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Capitalism would also charge for every part of the process, raising the price as some techno feudal lord thinks they can find the right balance between extinction pricing and maximum shareholder value.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 2 weeks ago
Then they do the calculation on the costs to raise the children and decide it’s not economically viable.
x4740N@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I feel like this is a plot of a dystopian movie somewhere where they breed artificial humans to make into slaves
Chev@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The robots are coming for our women. 🤖😳
etchinghillside@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
You said ban birth control and porn? Got it.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Track everything people do and arrest them for unauthorised opinions? Got it.
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So that’s why suddenly there’s all this interest in banning porn
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Also homosexuality, except for the wealthy.
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They’re taking the opposite approach.
In the past families had a bunch of kids because they needed extra laborers to stay afloat, plus childhood mortality rates were so dire they needed spares to cover for the ones who wouldn’t make it.
We’re already seeing pushes towards removing child labor laws, and RFK Jr is well on his way to ensuring death from easily preventable diseases makes a comeback.
borth@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I mean… Shiiii. That sounds easy as hell! Jerry! Why didn’t you tell us about this idea before??? You have??? We’d have to give them HOW much to do that?? Nevermind then.