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What games are just objective master pieces?

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Submitted ⁨⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

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  • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nobody can answer that question objectively.

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  • Subject106@jlai.lu ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’d say :

    The first Deus Ex and its first prequel Human Revolution Mafia I Max Payne 1 and 3 GTA III Doom 1/2 Doom 3 Duke Nukem 3D Morrowind Skyrim (modded and fixed, vanilla is pure garbage) Blood Omen 1 Silent Hill 1 and 2 Resident Evil 1 and 4 (and their remakes)

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  • mohab@piefed.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well, none because favorites are super subjective, but I'll shout out my favorites because no one else did:

    1. The Wonderful 101
    2. Bayonetta
    3. Ninja Gaiden II
    4. God Hand
    5. Viewtiful Joe
    6. Catherine
    7. Gravity Rush
    8. Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus R
    9. Under Night In-Birth II Sys:Celes
    10. Persona 4 Arena Ultimax
    11. Crimzon Clover: World EXplosion
    12. Ketsui: Kizuna Jigoku Tachi
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    • Krauerking@lemy.lol ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Catherine deserves to be on someone’s list so glad you have it and Gravity rush is a good choice cause it was a fun use of mechanics.

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  • Allero@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Honestly, many of them you know full well, but that’s because yes, they are that good:

    • Minecraft
    • TES III Morrowind and TES V Skyrim
    • The Witcher 1 and 3
    • Deus Ex Human Revolution and Mankind Divided
    • Cyberpunk 2077
    • Dishonored 1 and 2
    • Warcraft III and World of Warcraft

    Completely deserve their legendary status

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  • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’d say games that have set the standard for their genre, and have not been surpassed, would be the only ones that count.

    • Half Life 1 and then again with 2
    • Half Life Alyx
    • Age of Empires II
    • Baldur’s Gate 3
    • Warframe
    • Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando
    • Knights of the Old Republic
    • Fallout: New Vegas
    • Crash Bandicoot: Warped
    • Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
    • The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, and then again with Tears of the Kingdom
    • Elden Ring
    • Hollow Knight
    • Dirt Rally
    • The World Ends With You (the original NDS version)
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  • user_name@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Minesweeper.

    Simple, endlessly playable.

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  • mutat0@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Elden Ring

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  • Zetta@mander.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Team Fortress 2

    The best teamshooter game to date, endless copy cats that suck ass.

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    • MintyAnt@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It does have a couple sore points. The whole aimbots running rampant was awful. And it was one of the first major games to introduce and popularize micro transactions.

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      • Zetta@mander.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Both true points, however Its still my favorite game of all time. To be fair I am a fanboy, my steam year in review last year was 99% TF2. I don’t really play any other games besides tf2 still.

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    • weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And the character trailers are hilarious.

      “That thing … It scares me,” Pyro shooting bubbles and lollypops in his mind actually causing pure death and destruction

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  • swordgeek@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    • Portal 1/2 of course.
    • Grim Fandango. (Flawed yes, but absolutely a masterpiece)
    • Psychonauts.
    • Fallout New Vegas.
    • System Shock (the original).
    • The Longest Journey.
    • Mass Effect. Maybe.
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    • fpslem@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Portal 1 & 2 were the first to my mind as well. I really like this list, actually.

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      • swordgeek@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Glad to hear it.

        I’m tempted to add Red Dead Redemption 2 to the list, but it’s too new for me to decide yet.

        I think it belongs. It was the greatest storytelling game I’ve played in a decade or more.

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  • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What’s left of edith finch.

    Such an amazing game. Absolute masterpiece.

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    • TheOakTree@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is the game I used to convince my film nerd friends that games can be art too. They really enjoyed playing through it!

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  • Krauerking@lemy.lol ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So I think it’s actually really important that the games that would be co sidered objective masterpieces would have to overcome any language barriers and be an experience approachable by anyone. You can learn the mechanics to enjoy the gameplay without words
    So:

    • Portal
    • Journey
    • Binding of Isaac
    • Shadow of the Colossus
    • Metro 2033 (which I have sat on and I believe even if it was entirely in Russian you would still get it )
    • DOOM (original you don’t need words you shoot)
    • Super Mario Bros. 3
    • Katamari Damacy

    Then there are dialogue option stories that are fantastic stories that I could sider greats but shareable masterpieces is hard to say as they rely on you speaking the language both literally and then gameplay wise:

    • Stanley Parable
    • Outer Wilds
    • Tales From the Borderlands
    • To the Moon
    • Talos Principle
    • Golf Club Wasteland
    • Dead Space
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  • dantheclamman@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Immersive sims: Prey, Dishonored, Deus Ex Story-driven: The Last of Us, Horizon Zero Dawn, Halo, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Uncharted, HL2, Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, Splinter Shock Platformer: Braid, Ori and the Blind Forest, Mario 64, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Limbo Action/roguelike: Bastion, Hades RPG: Fallout: New Vegas, Mass Effect Puzzle: Lumines, Puzzle Quest, World of Goo, You Must Build a Boat, Reigns, Threes, Meteos Other: Desert Golfing

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    • Krauerking@lemy.lol ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I always forget how absolutely awesome Escape From Butcher Bay is until I’m reminded of its existence and its shockingly unfair to that game.

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      • dantheclamman@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’d kill for a new Riddick game!

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  • oplkill@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There is no game: wrong dimension

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  • 2ugly2live@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think Bioshock 1, Inscryption, Portal 1 & 2(I believe that 2 wouldn’t be so loved if we didn’t already love 1, I like to think of them as a set), Silent Hill 2, Resident Evil, Nier Automata, and Okami.

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    • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Glad to see Okami mentioned here. It was poorly marketed, which basically killed the development company… But it was so good.

      Some people have called it the best Zelda game never made, and I believe the description is accurate. It has all of the mechanics of Zelda’s puzzlebox dungeons. It’s just a different setting, and the “tools” to solve the puzzles are your brush abilities.

      My only real complaint about the game is that it was long. Like every time I expected the game to be wrapping up, it would introduce an entirely new region. But that length also meant it was able to deliver a fully self-contained story that didn’t rely on cliffhangers (sequels) to finish. Sure there were some sequels, but the original story stands on its own without them.

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  • kinther@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    SOMA was great

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    • FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ve been craving another experience like SOMA but unfortunately nothing even comes close. It was probably the coolest and most disturbing story I’ve ever seen. Finishing that game gave me an existential crisis for like 2 days after. It was that good.

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    • jacksilver@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I feel like Soma was a decent metaphysical question wrapped in a okayish walking simulator.

      It got a lot of praise, but basically boils down to the question “what makes you you” with nothing else about it standing out.

      If the gameplay isn’t a driving factor of making the game objectively good, then I don’t think it counts.

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      • kinther@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Personally I think story can make a game stand out far more than graphics or gameplay. I also disagree that the game boiled down to one question. While it was the primary focus of the narrative, the underwater laboratories and world building/history was amazing.

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      • MintyAnt@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The lack of gameplay is fine, and very much important to call out for any new players. There’s a whole genre of “you’re playing a movie” that SOMA fits nicely into

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  • Shardikprime@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Spec Ops: The line

    Basically the “committing war crimes isn’t funny after all” game

    This is your fault, god-damnit 🫵

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  • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Okay, now do it all on a bell curve.

    What’s the most absolute medium game, to which all other games are compared to, and if worse, fail, or are better and pass?

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    • weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hell I’d make that a separate post!

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    • Shardikprime@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Pong.

      It’s that or tetris

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    • Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oooooh I like that question. I feel like it would have to be some kind of Call of Duty, right? Some absolutely mediocre slop that still has enough mechanical satisfaction and mind-numbing explosion-and-cliché-filled story to keep you somewhat entertained, yet still remaining completely forgettable.

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      • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The McDonald’s of videogames.

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  • Deflated0ne@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    RDR2. Witcher 3. Fallout New Vegas.

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    • FelixCress@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Fallout 2

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      • Deflated0ne@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Wasteland 3.

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  • LeDoudou@jlai.lu ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How come no one has mentioned “Life is strange” yet? Also, “A plague tale”.

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    • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The intro to a plague tale… Jesus.

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  • theblips@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Celeste. Emotional narrative that seamlessly blends with the gameplay, which implementa never before seen accessibility configuration, enhanced by one of the best soundtracks ever. All while being cheap, indie, and one of the best speedrun games ever made

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  • atlien51@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Halo 1-3

    Forza horizon 2 & 3

    COD blacc ops 1-2

    MW 1 + 2

    Need for Speed Most Wanted/Underground/2/Carbon

    More I can’t think of rn

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  • GaMEChld@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Super Metroid

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  • Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Metro 2033. Played it in the dark with good surround sound headphones on, and it’s positively claustrophobic.

    Last Light is good too, but at little too optimistic IMHO. 2033 nails that endless pit of despair feeling, with just enough lucky breaks that you might make it through.

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    • Krauerking@lemy.lol ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I would absolutely put that game up high on the lists as it is a perfect piece of atmospheric gameplay of misery incarnate.

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  • Ashiette@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There are a lot of answers, mine will be drowned but… there it is. In no particular order :

    • Final Fantasy X
    • Clair Obscur : Expedition 33
    • Baldur’s Gate 3
    • Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2 (but you had to be there when it came out)
    • Metal Gear Solid 3
    • Shadow Hearts : Covenant
    • Kya : Dark Lineage (the bugs were a feature)
    • Horizon : Zero Dawn
    • Megaman (any megaman will do)
    • Crash Bandicoot Trilogy
    • Spyro Trilogy
    • Pokemon Yellow/Crystal/Emerald
    • Pokemon Jade (yes that bootleg version)
    • The Last of Us (pt. I & II)
    • Astroneer
    • GTA : Vice City
    • Unreal Tournament 2004
    • CS 1.6 played in the most dirty lan at your disposal
    • Control
    • Tetris
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    • LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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      • Ashiette@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If you really liked BG3 you might also like Neverwinter Nights 2 and DA:O. I heard there was a remaster of Neverwinter Nights 2 in the works, maybe give it a try when it comes out.

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  • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Disco Elysium Alpha Centauri Super Marios Bros 3 Bloodborne Ori 1 & 2 Fallout 1 & 2 Planescape: Torment

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    • Tillman@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Atari: Frogger NES: RBI Baseball / Tecmo Bowl Genesis: Phantasy Star IV N64: Ocarina PSX: FF IX PSP: Lumines Saturn: Panzer Dragoon Dreamcast: Rez and Skies of Arcadia PS2 Vice City XBOX: PD Orta 360: Child of Eden / Shadow Complex PC agree with all yours. Would add Syndicate Witcher 3 DS: Dawn of Sorrow Neo Geo: Last Blade 2

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  • TheHotze@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Since I haven’t seen it on here: FTL.

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  • Skkorm@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hollow Knight is peak

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  • LordGimp@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Chromehounds was the greatest mech game on shitbox 360 and you can’t change my mind.

    The sheer variety in player created metas was glorious to behold. Sure, you could play how the game encouraged you to play and hang your weapons in “normal” configurations. But you could also bury whole teams in indirect fire with a triple double from across the map. You could build a little punchy boi buggy with a dick piston, cockpit, wheels, and nothing else. You could even try to sweat the meta in the chicken leg howitzer or the turtle up in the armored crab.

    The only limits were creativity and spacer availability lmfaooo

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    • MintyAnt@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s pretty wack that we haven’t since had a game that captures many of the better elements of Chrome hounds.

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  • Krudler@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Squarez Deluxe

    Originally a paid DOS game and the developer is a cool dude who changed it to freeware. You can download it on myabandonware or archive. Then grab a free copy of DOSBox.

    In my view, it is the best shape packing game ever made, and it never really got its due, possibly in part to somewhat extra complexity, and partly from the time it came out.

    You learn the ropes in the early modes, but you really need to play on EXTREME Mode. There are many different special pieces, and you decide how to move them in the playfield and rotate them.

    There are mud traps and acid pits and missiles and bombs and traps. And you have to not only play the shape packing aspect, but you have to continually think about how to deploy these hazards, to your best advantage, or least disadvantage!

    Over the years, I continually come back to this game, and I have probably sunk over a thousand hours since I was young.

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  • Redacted@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Slay the Spire

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    • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s a niche masterpiece, but my 600 hours of play time agrees I am in that niche

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