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What games are just objective master pieces?

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

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  • essell@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    My Picks…

    Deus Ex (So many games try to be this and fail) Cyberpunk (This one eventually measured up) Alpha Centauri (Innovation mixed with familiarity and setting) Fallout 2 (they’re all good. Fallout 2 is special) Kotor (Star Wars story telling in a beautiful way) Baldur’s Gate 2 and 3 (I’m stunned that 3 was a worthy successor) Homeworld (One of the World’s truly beautiful games)

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    • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Phantom Liberty is where Cyberpunk becomes a masterpiece.

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    • cletuspolybius@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I remember trying the demo to Homeworld when I was a kid, it came with one of those old school PC GAMER demo CDs. I think I was too young to understand how to play it effectively, but still loved it because I found the ambience of the experience so memorizing while hyper-cozy. Would you say it she’s well as something worth going back and playing now, and what of the sequel(s)?

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      • essell@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I still repplay now and then, there’s no game like it.

        Sadly the sequals failed to capture the grace of the original, though I’ve not tried 3 yet.

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  • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Hotline: Miami

    Beyond Good & Evil

    Final Fantasy X

    Celeste

    Hades

    Ace Combat Zero/5

    Way more to choose but top of my head

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    • CatZoomies@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      +1 for Beyond Good & Evil.

      For those unfamiliar with this game, this was early 2000s Ubisoft when they used to be creative, celebrated, and original.

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      • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It’s so French and weird and amazing

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  • C45513@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Hades Hollow Knight Noita Super Metroid Prey (2017) DOOM (2016) Factorio Stardew Valley

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  • angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’m going to take this as “games that I never see anyone question their quality.” (I don’t even like all these games myself)

    • Sonic 3 & Knuckles

    • Kirby Planet Robobot

    • Doom 2016

    • Street Fighter III: Third Strike

    • Pac-Man

    • Balatro

    • Steins;Gate

    • The House in Fata Morgana

    • Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

    • Gran Turismo 4

    • Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

    • Mega Man X

    • Mega Man X4

    • Super Mario Bros. 3

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    • Montagge@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I am here to question Elden Ring’s quality

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    • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’d take SMW over SMB3, but I can’t really fault anything else in this list! 😅

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      • angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I like SMW better myself (actually not a single franchise entry on that list is my favorite in the series) but it doesn’t have the kind of unanimous praise SMB3 does.

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    • Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Baldur’s Gate 3 is a good game and a worthwhile experience but you can absolutely make quite a lot of very valid critiques about it.

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      • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yeah for a third person isometric RPG with non-linear branching storylines and deep thoughtful story, Disco Elysium positively blows BG3 out of the water.

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    • weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Steins;Gate my man cultured AF

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  • llamapocalypse@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Bastion, Hades, Disco Elysium, Planescape: Torment, and Tyranny (even if the last act is rushed in the last two) come to mind for me

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    • Gerudo@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Bastion is amazing.

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  • alexaralvarado@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Supergiant games’ holy trinity: Bastion, Transistor and Pyre.

    Also, the only Borderland games 1 and 2; don’t believe the lies there are no more true Borderlands games and no there most certainly is no movie.

    There’s also one other, but you’ll need a crowbar or a gravity gun in hand for me to tell you about it.

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    • Krauerking@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You are wrong about borderlands as there is one more and it is pretty muc h perfect.

      Tales from the Borderlands.
      Shame they never made a sequel for it but the artistry, music and story are all so well crafted. Someone loved Borderlands making that.

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    • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Feels odd to include Hades over Pyre.

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    • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Bastion and Transistor, sure. Without a doubt, imoactful clever stories that were well delivered.

      Pyre always felt like a buggy mess tho. I tried multiple times to get into it but it’s just not on the level of the first two.

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  • dantheclamman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Immersive sims: Prey, Dishonored, Deus Ex Story-driven: The Last of Us, Horizon Zero Dawn, Halo, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Uncharted, HL2, Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, Splinter Shock Platformer: Braid, Ori and the Blind Forest, Mario 64, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Limbo Action/roguelike: Bastion, Hades RPG: Fallout: New Vegas, Mass Effect Puzzle: Lumines, Puzzle Quest, World of Goo, You Must Build a Boat, Reigns, Threes, Meteos Other: Desert Golfing

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    • Krauerking@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I always forget how absolutely awesome Escape From Butcher Bay is until I’m reminded of its existence and its shockingly unfair to that game.

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      • dantheclamman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I’d kill for a new Riddick game!

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  • Flickerby@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Clair Obscur has been the best game I’ve played in a long while, absolute masterpiece

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  • B0NK3RS@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Thomas Was Alone

    I’ve never felt so much for quadrilateral shapes.

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    • zerofk@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      That’s a great game indeed. The narration is on point.

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  • Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Age of Empires 2 /w The Conquers expansion pack.

    Roller Coaster Tycoon 1. (2 was weaker without OpenRCT2, the real masterpiece, but idk if unfinished projects should count or not)

    Quake 3 Arena, Unreal Tournament 1999 GOTY, Worms Armageddon, SimCity 3000 Unlimited, Forza Horizon 2 / Motorsport 3, Need for Speed Underground 1, Clonk! Rage, Metal Gear Solid 1/2/3, Ace Combat 4, Okami, Tokyo Jungle, Zelda BOTW, Mario Odyssey, Sven Co-Op, Killing Floor 1, Final Fantasy 7, LISA: The Painful, Everhood 1, Deus Ex 1, Left 4 Dead 1/2, Portal 2, Battlefield Bad Company 2…

    I could go on and on.

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  • Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Doom

    Tetris

    Chrono Trigger

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    • Phunter@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Wizards got all up in Commander and killed my interest in it.

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      • Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        UB are getting all up in my standard and pioneer formats and killing my interest for them/Magic as a whole outside of “limited” precons.

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  • user_name@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Minesweeper.

    Simple, endlessly playable.

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  • msage@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Games I haven’t seen mentioned yet:

    • Fez - cute little 2D/3D platformer. It’s amazing and very wholesome
    • Stalker: Shadow of Chenrobyl - dunno what exactly is it, perhaps the settings and the grit, but it has a special place in my heart. It’s about average FPS, but not too long and for me enjoyable
    • F.E.A.R. - very good FPS, with amazingly scripted enemies, decent horror elements (not compulsory - you might miss some of them if you’re not looking).
    • Prince of Persia: Warrior Within - for me the best 3rd person action adventure ever. Best combat hands down (or head, or torso, you choose), streamlined blade dance at your fingertips. You play with your enemies, and you get many tools. There are some locked camera issues.
    • Touhou: Lost branch of time - If you liked Slay the Spire, but wished for colorful mana, this is the game for you. It has anime artstyle, I usually focus on the cards, though it might turn some people off
    • Dota 2 - Dunno if it was mentioned and I didn’t see, but the mechanics are absolutely amazing, the things the game lets you get away with are incredible. 10/10, but other people might bring your experience down. Specially friends. Can play against custom (workshop) bots. Still takes too long to git gud. I studied the game for 10 years and still sucked.
    • Divinity 2: Original Sin - also haven’t seen a mention, everybody talks about BG3, I haven’t yet played it, but D2:OS was also a masterpiece. Haven’t played a lot of TRPGs, this was a blast, with easily set up multiplayer. Played through it twice completely, with many abandoned runs.
    • CS 1.6 - remember that? I lost my childhood to that. They don’t make counter strikes this good anymore.
    • Synthetik - top-down rougelike shooter, with amazing weapons and physics and classes and enemies and mechanics and 2 person multiplayer
    • Dwarf Fortress - the real objectively best game :D strategy simulation of the 3D box world, predecesor to both Minecraft and Terraria, but with A LOT more sand in your box. They are still extending it. And it’s on Steam if you want a UI.
    • Terraria (Calamity mod) - Terraria is obviously a great game, but what makes it 20/10 is the mods. Calamity specifically. Tripple the content, 5x the difficulty (20x if you try Infernum), amazing multiplayer experience. Don’t install Infernum if you haven’t beaten at least Revengeance on Calamity. Trust me, it will fuck you up.
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    • mutat0@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I love that you included 1.6. I spent my all teenage years staying up all night playing this. I was thinking single player epics but this is absolutely a masterpiece.

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      • msage@programming.dev ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah, me too… man, I would play 16+ hours on some weekends… I was kinda good, too. Too young, but godly reflexes. I still think about those days sometimes…

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    • Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I love STALKER with all my heart, and if we’re talking atmosphere and vibes and even world building it is up there. But it does not really belong in the objective masterpiece category. Flawed masterpiece, maybe.

      Also I think Call of Pripyat is the better STALKER game, but it might be controversial.

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      • msage@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yeah, but it still popped into my mind sooner than other games, dunno why,

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    • Redacted@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Good taste

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  • emb@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Super Metroid

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  • afaix@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Psychonauts 1 and 2.

    Some of the most imaginative big budget games in existence, from themes to art style to level design

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  • BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Doom (93) I guess ?

    Also HL and HL2

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  • Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Metro 2033. Played it in the dark with good surround sound headphones on, and it’s positively claustrophobic.

    Last Light is good too, but at little too optimistic IMHO. 2033 nails that endless pit of despair feeling, with just enough lucky breaks that you might make it through.

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    • Krauerking@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I would absolutely put that game up high on the lists as it is a perfect piece of atmospheric gameplay of misery incarnate.

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  • richardwagner@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    • dark souls
    • elden ring
    • bloodborne
    • sekiro
    • outer wilds
    • doom 2016
    • binding of isaac
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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Someone likes a challenge. :)

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  • KiNo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Witcher 3 for me.

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    • TheOneAndOnly@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I had to scroll so far to find anyone mentioning W3… Absolutely insane to me that this isn’t much higher and more mentioned.

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  • Subject106@jlai.lu ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’d say :

    The first Deus Ex and its first prequel Human Revolution Mafia I Max Payne 1 and 3 GTA III Doom 1/2 Doom 3 Duke Nukem 3D Morrowind Skyrim (modded and fixed, vanilla is pure garbage) Blood Omen 1 Silent Hill 1 and 2 Resident Evil 1 and 4 (and their remakes)

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  • mostNONheinous@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    MAD MAX from 2015, while not tied directly to the new movies it scratches an itch I haven’t found in any other game. It’s dark and bleak and brutal. The combat on foot and behind the wheel are both incredible. Nothing quite like being in the middle of ripping a convoy 7 new assholes and being hit with a dust storm. It can be repetitive if you want to complete everything but BY THE GODS OF VALHALLA is it a fucking blast.

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    • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It actually is directly tied to the movies. The character who first gives Furiousa a chassis to build from isn’t quite as hunchbacked as in the game but he is credited as “Chumbucket!”

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      • mostNONheinous@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        No shit that’s awesome!

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  • GraniteM@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Red Alert 2

    Heroes of Might and Magic 3

    Super Mario Brothers 3

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  • Radin@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Hades. Transcends the rogue-like genre through incredible writing, art direction, and music. The gameplay is some of the most addictive I’ve ever played. I’m at over 200 hours logged and I still get lost in it.

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  • Elevator7009@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Curious to hear what the criteria for “masterpiece” is, otherwise I think it is just peoples’ subjective opinion of what makes a great game that they also think others might agree about being a great game. Genuinely curious, interested in discussion, not saying this to shut down any of the answers here.

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    • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Historically a masterpiece has been a (or the) work that demonstrates an artist is capable of utilizing their medium to its fullest extent, i.e. it has been mastered. Per ye olde Wiki:

      Historically, a “masterpiece” was a work of a very high standard produced by an apprentice to obtain full membership, as a “master”, of a guild or academy in various areas of the visual arts and crafts.

      In that light, I’d say the best qualified would be games that completely utilized the capabilities of the platform they were designed for or, perhaps of interest to more people, expanded what everyone thought could be done with those systems. Games which were furthermore well polished and complete, and did not have much room for improvement taking into account the constraints they had to work with at the time. (For instance: No duh we could make Mario 64 run at a higher framerate and have better textures to look nicer on hardware now. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t arguably a masterpiece of its time, on the system it was on.) This doesn’t just have to be technical stuff – It could be the way the game used storytelling, its gameplay mechanics, or anything else.

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      • ladicius@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Then Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom belong to that category - run smoothly as fuck on one of the lamest consoles there is, and are beautiful and complex.

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      • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Spyro and Crash trilogies on the PSX, as well as the Quake 2 port, would definitely merit being called technical masterpieces

        On the original Xbox, Phantom Dust would fit that bill, despite being a commercial failure at the time. The tldr is that you create a collection of spells (attacks, traps, dodges, curses, buffs) and try to grab them and the “mana” during the real time duels, in order to beat your opponents. Terrain is semi destructible and you have to take into consideration the trajectory of your spells - www.xbox.com/games/store/…/9PCDNBHR11MR

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    • KOhBaby@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      In my mind a masterpiece video game can’t be copied. Or at least if someone tried it would just be called a cheap clone of the original.

      Then again everything can be copied but the more difficult it is to copy the closer it is to a masterpiece IMO.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’m taking this to mean games that stand out in or define their genre, are widely considered to be excellent, are timeless, and there’s very little if any fat to trim.

    • Super Mario Brothers - NES
    • Super Mario 64
    • Dark Souls - maybe Elden Ring takes over?
    • Return of the Obra Dinn
    • Half Life 2 - honorable mention: Left 4 Dead 2
    • Diablo 2
    • Doom
    • Tetris
    • Chrono Trigger
    • Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
    • Portal 2
    • Little Nightmares - honorable mention: INSIDE
    • GTA SA
    • Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2

    These aren’t necessarily my favorite games, but games I think are well respected. I probably missed a bunch.

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  • Allero@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Honestly, many of them you know full well, but that’s because yes, they are that good:

    • Minecraft
    • TES III Morrowind and TES V Skyrim
    • The Witcher 1 and 3
    • Deus Ex Human Revolution and Mankind Divided
    • Cyberpunk 2077
    • Dishonored 1 and 2
    • Warcraft III and World of Warcraft

    Completely deserve their legendary status

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  • PigStyle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Factorio.

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  • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’d say games that have set the standard for their genre, and have not been surpassed, would be the only ones that count.

    • Half Life 1 and then again with 2
    • Half Life Alyx
    • Age of Empires II
    • Baldur’s Gate 3
    • Warframe
    • Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando
    • Knights of the Old Republic
    • Fallout: New Vegas
    • Crash Bandicoot: Warped
    • Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
    • The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, and then again with Tears of the Kingdom
    • Elden Ring
    • Hollow Knight
    • Dirt Rally
    • The World Ends With You (the original NDS version)
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  • Sophocles@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Heres a list of some favorites:

    Imperfect perfection: Morrowind

    Perfect perfection: Starcraft Brood War

    Objective perfection: Plants vs Zombies

    Subjective perfection: Knights of the Old Republic

    Perfect for its time: Gauntlet IV

    Perfect timeless: Sonic 2

    Perfect for its genre: LOZ Minish Cap

    Perfect All-in-one: Shenmue II

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    • pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Minish Cap seems such an underrated gem

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    • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Glad to see some love for Shenmue

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  • kint@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The Witness

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