These standing seats have been coming next year for the past decade, but they always failed safety tests. Planes need to be evacuated within a certain time frame, which does not work when the plane is too densely packed.
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owl@infosec.pub 1 month ago
Honytawk@feddit.nl 1 month ago
Can’t they go Middle Earth on them and just create more doors?
owl@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
Pilots were asked about the problem and one said “I sen guards to the exits to help with the evacuation.”
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 1 month ago
I think we should relax rules on how quickly it is to evaluate a plane, and focus more on keeping the plane in the sky. (looking at you Boeing)
I'd love sleeping pods or bunk beds on a plane and accept the higher risk of not being able to get out quickly.
Cars and probably even train are infinitely more dangerous and we accept those risks every day.
Saleh@feddit.org 1 month ago
There is no legitimate reason why trains or cars should be more dangerous modes of transport than flights. It is just that the lobbies for cars and capitalist train operations successfully desensitized everyone to it, so “deadly car crash” is just shrugged away. In the US we see similar attempts to make planes less safe and just accept the numbers of people killed in preventable events.
owl@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
I don’t think loosening regulations in one place will help in other places.
Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 1 month ago
And if we are making rules about exiting a plane it should apply to when the plane lands normally. There is absolutely no reason it takes 30+ to get the fuck off the plane
Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 month ago
Why not both?
Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Did the stronger younger people try pushing the frail and children out of the way during these safety tests? Because I feel like the plane world empty quickly in that scenario
owl@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
"Do you feel capable of opening the exit in case of an emergency?"
- Yes.
"Do you feel capable of throwing the old woman behind you of of the window in case of an emergency?" - What?
"Do you know how to punch someone unconscious if they fall to hysteria in case of an emergency?" - I would like to leave the plane now.
- Yes.
isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
dont give them ideas!
EfficientEffigy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This looks like a pain in the balls in case of turbulence
RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Some would probably enjoy some turbulence in their ass.
Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 1 month ago
How people can look at (mostly) state owned rail vs private airlines and still think the free market benefits the average person is one of life’s big mysteries to me.
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I mean, Trump won the vote, and Brexit won the vote… Something tells me it’s as simple as most people are fucking stupid.
20cello@lemmy.world 1 month ago
passengers hanging outside not before 2030
HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
the_trash_man@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Watch these cost the same as standard seats, and the cost of standard seats go up
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 1 month ago
“You’re still a premium subscriber and have full access to our premium plan, but some of our options have changed.”
barsoap@lemm.ee 1 month ago
The lengths the US will go to to avoid building rail.
RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
This is almost certainly a European thing.
It is a European thing!
Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 month ago
Because of course it’s Ryanair.
Oh, you want a seat? That’s an extra £50. Each. Both ways. Go fuck yourselves.
The EU needs to regulate the fuck out of that shitbag company.
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
It’s a capitalism thing.
Extract as much value as possible. Deliver as little value to your customers as possible. Treat them as second layer of product.
Human needs are not the goal.
barsoap@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Ryanair has no plans to introduce them. (sorry for the metro link).
Also Ireland kind of gets a pass they don’t have a rail link to anywhere. A Dublin-Holyhead tunnel would definitely be a good idea.
tatann@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Honestly, I’m pretty tall and if it gives more room for my legs, I’d like to have the option
WereCat@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Finally more leg room… But now you head bumps against the ceiling and you need to have your head tilted for the entire flight
tatann@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Same answer as above
Most people can’t stand outside of the aisle because this area is meant to be seated (so they put storage space above the head). If the area outside the aisle is meant to be stood (not sure of my english), and they don’t remove the storage above the head, people are in their right to luigi those decision makers.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I have to lean sideways anyway because my shoulders are too broad and the side of the plane is round.
There’s so much about flying that sucks as a big person.
My knees are folded up to my chest. I’m leaning to the right to stay off the fuselage. I can’t be in an aisle seat because I’m in the way of the crew, and I have to lean forward the whole time because someone is in the seat next to me. And that person hates me.
My dread of the flying experience is why I never go on vacations.
JustJack23@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
Why do you assume there will be leg room?
Carrot@lemmy.today 1 month ago
This. The who point is to cram more seats than they are currently able
Dave@lemmy.nz 1 month ago
Presumably standing seats means standing up? Hopefully not squatting seats.
Squirrelsdrivemenuts@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Will the height be adjustable? Otherwise the sitting thing will be either way to low or poking the backs of most people.
Demdaru@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Insert short people dangling from them like kids from walkers xD
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’ve always imagined it would be like the seats on a stand-up rollercoaster, which are admittedly pretty comfortable.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 month ago
If you can stand up in a plane outside of the aisle, you’re not tall.
tatann@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Most people can’t stand outside of the aisle because this area is meant to be seated (so they put storage space above the head). If the area outside the aisle is meant to be stood (not sure of my english), and they don’t remove the storage above the head, people are in their right to luigi those decision makers.
tatann@lemm.ee 1 month ago
No idea who fetterman is, I just image-searched “tall man in plane”
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Someone who won on progressive ideals and then immediately stabbed his constituents in the back by going full Democrat.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Is that fetterman?
al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com 1 month ago
Is he a drooling clown in a hoodie and shorts?
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
So I guess no putting your head between your knees in the event of a crash then, huh?
SanicHegehog@lemm.ee 1 month ago
The only reason airlines would have you do that in the first place is so you can kiss your ass goodbye.
sundray@lemmus.org 1 month ago
WereCat@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You need to pass yoga test to afford this seat
lectricleopard@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Maybe they could replace that with a noose that comes down next to the oxygen. Then, if you get claustrophobic, you get off the plane any time you want.
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That would require assisted suicide to be legal.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
The ‘ol Marylin Manson
Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 month ago
Well strapped to a sightly ergonomic plank upright is pretty safe, even better if you face away from the direction of the crash.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Honestly, that may actually be more comfortable for me than trying to fold my legs into the tiny rows they have now.
turtlesareneat@discuss.online 1 month ago
I am super torn here because pre-back-surgery me looks at these and says “the NERVE of these fuckers” and post-back-surgery me is like “Well that WOULD be nice yes”
nroth@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Why don’t they do lay-down-only seats? Seems like you’d save the same amount of space or more with vastly more comfort.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
The serious non-joke answer is the same as the one for these standing seats: emergency exit speed. When an airplane crash lands you have like less than 2 minutes to get everyone out before the huge inferno happens and roasts people. So for standing seats that pack even more people into an airplane, they have to prove that they can still get everyone out before the deadline. For laying-down seats they would have to prove the same thing.
burntrealm@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Not only that, but also the mess it would make. Airlines make good money off of selling food and drinks, how are you going to consume those laying down? Very messily, that’s how. More mess = more time spent cleaning the plane = less time in the air = less ticket sales. Not to mention the loss in drink and food sales from people who don’t want to do that laying down. It’s a lose lose for the airline.
qarbone@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’ve been on enough planes to believe 2 minutes of evacuation time will see 5% evacuated and 95% trampled before the fiery inferno.
Agent641@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Pop me out the side with compressed air like a decoy flare
recall519@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Just lean it forward and have everyone slide down and out of the emergency slide.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Would you rather die in your sleep? Or with your balls crushed?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Another emergency door can’t be that expensive
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Why don’t they do lay-down-only seats?
Bigger and older passengers would find it more difficult to get into the top bunk than to ride a standing-only seat.
But it’s all shit regardless. Boeing can barely even make planes that don’t fall apart on the runway. The American airline industry’s fleet is increasingly defunct. The FAA is gutted. Airports are falling into disrepare due to mismanagement. You’ll be lucky to get any kind of air travel in another decade.
DoubleSpace@lemm.ee 1 month ago
The FAA’s goal of zero air disasters will feel like a luxury in the future.
Dasus@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Bigger and older passengers would find it more difficult to get into the top bunk than to ride a standing-only seat.
Wouldn’t the same group have trouble standing for an entire flight?
If only there was some sort of halfway point between lying down and standing up, something which would be easier to than lying down, but wouldn’t be as physically demanding as standing up.
Oh well.
Trollception@lemmy.world 1 month ago
!remindme 10 years
Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 1 month ago
People too fat
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
So we’ll have them stand for hours instead?
CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Yeah, since this is a shit post, why don’t they wrap the passengers like a piece of luggage and store them on a shelf? Save so much room… Just give them diapers! /S
ICastFist@programming.dev 1 month ago
Solution: bring a cheap plastic chair as part of your luggage
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 1 month ago
And if the plane fails, jump out of the plane with the chair and sit down/stand up as you’re about to hit the ground.
You won’t receive any fall damage during the animation.
(Make sure to check patch notes, this is a 2020 update exploit)
wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Honestly I didn’t even realize until now how good the cropping is on lemmy compared to redd*t. holy shit the number of memes that came from screenshots of twitter screenshotted on insta screenshotted on whatever the fuck but this one was profile.
nuko147@lemm.ee 1 month ago
There’s an idea. Flights that people can make standing, should be banned, except when there is a body of water between the destination.
RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 1 month ago
Airlines: “You’re not gonna believe what clouds are made of…”
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
F0r what it’s worth: this was apparently a concept created by an airline seat company called Aviointeriors who showed the idea off at trade shows in 2010 (as the “SkyRider”) and 2018 (as the SkyRider 2.0 pictured here.) Pretty much all the news articles about it are about Aviointeriors claiming vague unsorced “plans” for them to be adopted by some future echoing Aviointeriors’ own PR releases, but the articles mostly end up being about the intense public backlash to the idea. No airlines have announced any plans to buy and use these seats, not even those lunatics at RyanAir, and in the years since all SkyRider mentions have been quietly removed from Aviointeriors’ own site.
Sources:
cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
The fact this company is still around makes me think someone with a lot of money is trying to promote the concept every so often just to see if the public might finally accept this ludicrous idea. A company being around for 15 years with 0 sales and just a concept means someone wants this to happen but thinks the only problem is that they haven’t figured out the right pitch.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I can’t wait to see people passing out or getting injured because of these seats.
Joeffect@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
What could go wrong standing for two hours… Nothing probably if you’re a healthy young individual
LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Next stage: inject you with strong sedatives and pack the plane with the bodies
g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I mean honestly though, I’m kinda here for that. It’s essentially teleportation at that point.
roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m 6’6". Standing only seats would be preferable to me.
Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I mean, I’m broke as shit. So if it halved the cost of the tickets I’d do it, but I’m 99% sure I’d be paying close to the same.
yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Next step - put bicycle seats, reducent material for backs. Then add bicycle pedals for engines, to reduce fuel usage. None said anything about actually reducing ticket price by that, high prices stays forever.
Manticore@lemmy.nz 5 weeks ago
Standing still in place for a few hours is waaay more uncomfortable than pacing and walking around. Shifting the weight on our feet really helps
I can’t imagine how awful these would be, especially with how cramped they’d be packed in (otherwise they’re no smaller than chairs). God, you couldn’t even bend down to scratch your knee.
justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
It sounds quiet ridiculous, but I also had some flights that were so short (~50 min) that it almost took more time to seat everybody. Anyway, I would love to read those safety reports. Not only is sitting better on impact, but also cramping more people in the same machine, means more people (which trend to not comprehend the idea of leaving their luggage behind) share the exit routes.
atlien51@lemm.ee 1 month ago
If people actually pay for this it’s on them
ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I don’t get it. Why not just have bunk beds and everyone gets to lay down like those sleeper busses in Asia. They get way more people on those busses than with just seats
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That’s right, girls. Start packing on those pounds because the only airline seat that poops, then lies about it doesn’t have farts in the headrest anymore.
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You need to fly somewhere? Okay, fuck you.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 month ago
Can I just sit on the floor like on a train in Poland?
Talonflame@lemmy.cafe 5 weeks ago
What about people like myself who have POTS and can’t be in a standing position for too long? My heart can legit stop causing me to pass out if I’m standing for too long.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 weeks ago
First it’ll be the seats. Next they will remove the floor. Now it’s one of those dangling roller coaster rides without rails! 😃
vga@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
I’m over 40 and I usually stand up about half of my working day. But I wouldn’t want to stand on an airplane because it’s cramped.
BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Ryanair be Like
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Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 month ago
That’s majestic