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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    First it’ll be the seats. Next they will remove the floor. Now it’s one of those dangling roller coaster rides without rails! 😃

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    • tzrlk@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Apart from the deadly practicalities, and the boring route, that does sound kinda fun ngl.

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  • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I hate air travel so much. I have non-local family so deal with a single r/t per year, but that’s about my limit.

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  • Talonflame@lemmy.cafe ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What about people like myself who have POTS and can’t be in a standing position for too long? My heart can legit stop causing me to pass out if I’m standing for too long.

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    • threeduck@aussie.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Then don’t book standing seats?

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      • Talonflame@lemmy.cafe ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Why should I have to be forced to pay more for sitting seats just because I have a disability? We shouldn’t be normalising this.

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  • andybytes@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Got to get that body count up these suckers be falling from the skies. Exponential Madness. Slippery Slope. We’re all falling down the mountain, grasping for a short rope. Mass hysteria gaslighting clowns, limp dick leadership. Fly to you vacay as the nukes are dropping. YOLO. A world in denial. The show must go on. Welcome to the world of the billionaire welfare queen. The Liberals open the door for their devil. This was always the case. The Sun worshippers, breed-like rats and whorship idols. Singing their coping mechanisms of toxic positive optimism. Who the hell needs to watch movies anymore? Clown, clown show, clown show. Capitalism in Crisis, everybody’s goose stepping. It’s easy to destroy but difficult to build. lowest common denominator.

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    • AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sir this is a highly confused Wendys…

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  • whotookkarl@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Second hand coffins, cheap!

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  • kraftpudding@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not really worse than standing on the train for hours. But, standing on a train doesn’t make the ride cheaper. So, in some ways better than standing on the train

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    • nixcamic@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ve stood on the bus for 4-5 hours before. When I was younger I could sleep standing on the bus. Not sure if I could pull it off now.

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  • LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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    • andybytes@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Lowest common denominator…capitalism in crisis. It’s not a joke, man. If they can get away with it, they will.

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    • g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I mean honestly though, I’m kinda here for that. It’s essentially teleportation at that point.

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      • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I am reminded of The Jaunt where animals and humans can survive teleportation only while unconscious.

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  • Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean, I’m broke as shit. So if it halved the cost of the tickets I’d do it, but I’m 99% sure I’d be paying close to the same.

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    • andybytes@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You must be a wizard. Of course the savings aren’t transferred to you. When they fuck up. They put it on the consumer. Time is unwinding. The poor pay more.

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  • ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t get it. Why not just have bunk beds and everyone gets to lay down like those sleeper busses in Asia. They get way more people on those busses than with just seats

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    • Lyrl@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I am sure boarding and deplaning takes longer if everyone is getting into or out of a prone position. The idea might have been standing seats for short flights where turnaround time between flights was a large percent of each trip leg.

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      • MycelialMass@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Tilt the beds so they fall down a tube onto the tarmac

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    • Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Velcro them to the walls!

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  • rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    F0r what it’s worth: this was apparently a concept created by an airline seat company called Aviointeriors who showed the idea off at trade shows in 2010 (as the “SkyRider”) and 2018 (as the SkyRider 2.0 pictured here.) Pretty much all the news articles about it are about Aviointeriors claiming vague unsorced “plans” for them to be adopted by some future echoing Aviointeriors’ own PR releases, but the articles mostly end up being about the intense public backlash to the idea. No airlines have announced any plans to buy and use these seats, not even those lunatics at RyanAir, and in the years since all SkyRider mentions have been quietly removed from Aviointeriors’ own site.

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    • news.com.au
    • CNN
    • Euro Weekly News
    • Daily Mail (archive link, ain’t giving them a click)
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    • cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The fact this company is still around makes me think someone with a lot of money is trying to promote the concept every so often just to see if the public might finally accept this ludicrous idea. A company being around for 15 years with 0 sales and just a concept means someone wants this to happen but thinks the only problem is that they haven’t figured out the right pitch.

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      • rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The company sells normal airplane seats and has been around for a long time.

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  • Manticore@lemmy.nz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Standing still in place for a few hours is waaay more uncomfortable than pacing and walking around. Shifting the weight on our feet really helps

    I can’t imagine how awful these would be, especially with how cramped they’d be packed in (otherwise they’re no smaller than chairs). God, you couldn’t even bend down to scratch your knee.

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    • Talonflame@lemmy.cafe ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It can even be dangerous for some people to be in a standing position for too long. I have a severe case of POTS caused by a genetic disorder. My heart stopped during a tilt table test, which is where I was forced to remain in a standing position. If I’m expected to pay more for a normal seat just because I’m disabled, that’s ableism.

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    • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Shifting the weight on our feet really helps

      This is why some people use wobble boards with standing desks. Makes a big difference.

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    • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Cowards just need to go all in and hang us under the plane like an overhead roller coaster.

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      • andybytes@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Too much skill and engineering involved. The people that run our societies, specifically capitalist societies, because that’s the only thing that’s left, are too obsessed with the profit motive to actually even attain something like this. Unless you’re just being flown around like meat and your survivability is not guaranteed.

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  • vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m over 40 and I usually stand up about half of my working day. But I wouldn’t want to stand on an airplane because it’s cramped.

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    • dankm@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m tall enough I can’t stand up on any plane I’ve been on in the last several years…

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  • gobbles_turkey@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’d pay extra to not have to deal with the TSA as well.

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    • andybytes@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The Security Theater is non-negotiable. It’s there to maintain fear. Those that created the Security Theater are the ones that create the terrorism.

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  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I can’t wait to see people passing out or getting injured because of these seats.

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    • Joeffect@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What could go wrong standing for two hours… Nothing probably if you’re a healthy young individual

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      • jcs@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        People are often advised to not lock their knees for a long time while standing (ex: marching band, or standing at attention in the military), and you cannot force anyone to have healthy posture. The ergonomics of these seats appear to take some of the load off the legs and feet, but it’s something to consider for patrons with more sedentary lifestyles. Many people believe themselves to be fit individuals until they are placed in uncomfortable conditions for a long time or experience unexpected stress. They could manage to injure themselves in some way, then find some reason to litigate.

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      • JulieLemming@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        How fat you would have to be to pass out from standing for 2 hours?

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      • neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        honestly might even be more healthy

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  • bucketofcandyfloss@thelemmy.club ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    banana chair

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s right, girls. Start packing on those pounds because the only airline seat that poops, then lies about it doesn’t have farts in the headrest anymore.

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    • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ve read this repeatedly without any concept of what you’re saying but goddamn is it provocative and gets me going.

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Don’t put rocks in your pockets to fly

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  • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Im ok with given it would probably be easier on my back

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  • the_trash_man@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Watch these cost the same as standard seats, and the cost of standard seats go up

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    • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “You’re still a premium subscriber and have full access to our premium plan, but some of our options have changed.”

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  • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Honestly, that may actually be more comfortable for me than trying to fold my legs into the tiny rows they have now.

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    • turtlesareneat@discuss.online ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I am super torn here because pre-back-surgery me looks at these and says “the NERVE of these fuckers” and post-back-surgery me is like “Well that WOULD be nice yes”

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  • nroth@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why don’t they do lay-down-only seats? Seems like you’d save the same amount of space or more with vastly more comfort.

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    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The serious non-joke answer is the same as the one for these standing seats: emergency exit speed. When an airplane crash lands you have like less than 2 minutes to get everyone out before the huge inferno happens and roasts people. So for standing seats that pack even more people into an airplane, they have to prove that they can still get everyone out before the deadline. For laying-down seats they would have to prove the same thing.

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Another emergency door can’t be that expensive

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      • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Would you rather die in your sleep? Or with your balls crushed?

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      • burntrealm@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not only that, but also the mess it would make. Airlines make good money off of selling food and drinks, how are you going to consume those laying down? Very messily, that’s how. More mess = more time spent cleaning the plane = less time in the air = less ticket sales. Not to mention the loss in drink and food sales from people who don’t want to do that laying down. It’s a lose lose for the airline.

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      • qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’ve been on enough planes to believe 2 minutes of evacuation time will see 5% evacuated and 95% trampled before the fiery inferno.

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      • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Pop me out the side with compressed air like a decoy flare

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      • recall519@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Just lean it forward and have everyone slide down and out of the emergency slide.

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    • Jimmycakes@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      People too fat

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      • andybytes@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Now, it would be pretty reactionary for me to say that you are wrong, especially when speaking about Americans or even the UK. But we are all a byproduct of our environment and I still have empathy and I don’t want a fat shame But I definitely don’t want to glorify it and I want to find the source of the problem Because people don’t necessarily choose to be overweight shit, I’m a little chunky. I’m a poor Yankee. Oh, also, very interesting, China is a capitalist country and it has an obese problem. This is all just shit on top of shit. Like, we gotta go down this rabbit hole of causation. But people don’t have the attention span. One day at a time, I suppose.

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      • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        So we’ll have them stand for hours instead?

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    • CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, since this is a shit post, why don’t they wrap the passengers like a piece of luggage and store them on a shelf? Save so much room… Just give them diapers! /S

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      • ZeffSyde@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        An additional $25 Diaper Convenience Fee has been automatically added to your total.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why don’t they do lay-down-only seats?

      Bigger and older passengers would find it more difficult to get into the top bunk than to ride a standing-only seat.

      But it’s all shit regardless. Boeing can barely even make planes that don’t fall apart on the runway. The American airline industry’s fleet is increasingly defunct. The FAA is gutted. Airports are falling into disrepare due to mismanagement. You’ll be lucky to get any kind of air travel in another decade.

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      • Trollception@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        !remindme 10 years

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      • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Bigger and older passengers would find it more difficult to get into the top bunk than to ride a standing-only seat.

        Wouldn’t the same group have trouble standing for an entire flight?

        If only there was some sort of halfway point between lying down and standing up, something which would be easier to than lying down, but wouldn’t be as physically demanding as standing up.

        Oh well.

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      • DoubleSpace@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The FAA’s goal of zero air disasters will feel like a luxury in the future.

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  • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Solution: bring a cheap plastic chair as part of your luggage

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    • MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And if the plane fails, jump out of the plane with the chair and sit down/stand up as you’re about to hit the ground.

      You won’t receive any fall damage during the animation.

      (Make sure to check patch notes, this is a 2020 update exploit)

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  • wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Honestly I didn’t even realize until now how good the cropping is on lemmy compared to redd*t. holy shit the number of memes that came from screenshots of twitter screenshotted on insta screenshotted on whatever the fuck but this one was profile.

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  • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m 6’6". Standing only seats would be preferable to me.

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    • TaiCrunch@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m 5’5" and I just know my legs would dangle like a child on their first roller coaster.

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      • BreadAndThread@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        5’4" here. Yeah, I wouldn’t be able to reach the floor and would hang there like a rag doll. 🤣

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    • blackris@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, crouching like a gremlin under the hand luggage chutes? Fuck that.

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      • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Currently my strategy is to attempt to fold my legs under the seat because it’s not physically possible for my thighs to fit. Between kneeling and praying to the God of capitalism to not give me a dvr vs crouching like the subhuman ogre I am: I’ll crouch.

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  • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The lengths the US will go to to avoid building rail.

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    • RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is almost certainly a European thing.

      It is a European thing!

      liveandletsfly.com/ryanair-showcases-standing-roo…

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      • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Because of course it’s Ryanair.

        Oh, you want a seat? That’s an extra £50. Each. Both ways. Go fuck yourselves.

        The EU needs to regulate the fuck out of that shitbag company.

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      • Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s a capitalism thing.

        Extract as much value as possible. Deliver as little value to your customers as possible. Treat them as second layer of product.

        Human needs are not the goal.

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      • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ryanair has no plans to introduce them. (sorry for the metro link).

        Also Ireland kind of gets a pass they don’t have a rail link to anywhere. A Dublin-Holyhead tunnel would definitely be a good idea.

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  • justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It sounds quiet ridiculous, but I also had some flights that were so short (~50 min) that it almost took more time to seat everybody. Anyway, I would love to read those safety reports. Not only is sitting better on impact, but also cramping more people in the same machine, means more people (which trend to not comprehend the idea of leaving their luggage behind) share the exit routes.

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  • atlien51@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If people actually pay for this it’s on them

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    • Croquette@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If it catches on, these seats will be the base price and seated places will become premium. It will impact everyone that travels by plane.

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      • HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Of course. How else are they going to advertise $10 tickets to Florida?

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      • atlien51@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And so the enshitiffication of air travel continues!

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  • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How people can look at (mostly) state owned rail vs private airlines and still think the free market benefits the average person is one of life’s big mysteries to me.

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    • MotoAsh@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I mean, Trump won the vote, and Brexit won the vote… Something tells me it’s as simple as most people are fucking stupid.

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  • yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Next step - put bicycle seats, reducent material for backs. Then add bicycle pedals for engines, to reduce fuel usage. None said anything about actually reducing ticket price by that, high prices stays forever.

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    • isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      None said anything about actually reducing ticket price by that, high prices stays forever.

      Standard ticket if you generate at least 1KW, otherwise the price goes up if you generate less, with a fine for less then 50W generated during the flight

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      • yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Bet You will have to pay max price front. For security reason.

        Possible overpaid (in case You return some electricity), are returned in form of credit points for next purchase!

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  • nuko147@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There’s an idea. Flights that people can make standing, should be banned, except when there is a body of water between the destination.

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    • RobotZap10000@feddit.nl ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Airlines: “You’re not gonna believe what clouds are made of…”

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      • nuko147@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Oh, yes corporations. I guess body of Liquid water then. 😂

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  • sundray@lemmus.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    For a second I thought “Low quality cropping” was a new c/ being announced.

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