Well not nobody. Turns out there are some Nazis. /s
Nobody Wants a Nazi Electric Car
Submitted 1 year ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theindex.media/nobody-wants-a-nazi-electric-car/
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mwguy@infosec.pub 1 year ago
gutsnsuch@lemm.ee 1 year ago
You people are fkn insanely stupid. Think twice about buying a Mercedes Benz you infant loser.
vinyl@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Looking through the comments, this is a troll account
HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 1 year ago
One of the things that has continuously confounded me about Musk’s veneration by the modern American fascist is that one of the main accomplishments they hail him as a genius for are “his” advancements in electric cars.
Which are necessitated by Global Warming.
Which they do not believe in.
MisanthropiCynic@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Ironically, the EV’s suck and are for commies crowd are now lauding Tesla as the best vehicle on the market
Musk aside, Tesla cars have always been pretty shoddy
800XL@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s not ironic necessarily. It’s more the morons that hated EVs and Musk hated them because Trump did. Now that Trump loves them, they love them.
They’re just weak-minded easily manipulated sheep who hurt when they have to think for themselves and they’d rather be told what to think.
ALilOff@lemmy.world 1 year ago
We all know what’s going to happen, Elon just going to get a “government contract”, where he can make it so that teslas will be the main vehicle manufacturer for government.
DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 1 year ago
Fuck. What if Elon is just gonna start making weapons? Didn’t he flaunt a flamethrower for his lame company years ago?
Boring*
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I hope so. Any one who signs up for trump’s military deserves to burst into flames
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I would like a Chinese EV, but the capitalists are enforcing protectionism.
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
You can fellate Winnie the Pooh on your own time.
LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Nothing quite says “American Capitalist bootlicker” more than proudly paying more for an inferior product while complaining that it’s the Communists fault.
jaschen@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I would too, but you have to understand why the USA is blocking these cars from coming in. The cost of these cheap EVs are not based off of supply and demand. Its not even this cheap because of effectiveness or efficiencies. Its from the CCP subsidies. The CCP wants to dump on the competition in efforts to kill off anyone making a car, then start jacking up the price after they have market share.
Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 1 year ago
That’s only half the truth though. The main reason why they’re so cheap is because they manufacture everything in the supply chain themselves. Everything. They have their own mines for their resources, they make their own batteries (which they’ve been doing for ages), they make their own electronics, they make their own software etc. They also have a completely different mindset. For them they are rolling electrical devices with some software. They don’t need the knowhow of the traditional car manufacturers. And then they bought the Audi designer along with his entire team to make the cars look good.
LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 1 year ago
My dude the US subsidizes the shit out of its electric car industry. When someone brings up “supply and demand” and just tries to pretend that the economy is exactly what they learned in their econ101 class.
They are doing the tarrifs on Chinese EVS because (1) they can’t compete on price and (2) the Chinese EVS are just a superior product.
You’re right on China though. They are just doing exactly what the US has done for decades. It’s just that the US doesn’t like having to actually compete with another country. So instead of actually making better and cheaper cars they instead just decide to tell the American people “nah, looks like you’re just being a shit Tesla”
The US loves to say “free market” but notice how they don’t allow a free market to force their industry to actually innovate and compete.
madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m also pretty sure their security / safety standards are pure ass. I barely trust our automakers, I sure as shit don’t trust the fucking CCP
MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Then explain why I see them everywhere lmao
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 1 year ago
its not the death of the electric car. Its the death of a bad one.
uis@lemm.ee 1 year ago
All cars are bad. Combustion or not.
TypicalHog@lemm.ee 1 year ago
[deleted]Yaztromo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
There is a Tesla New Buyers delivery checklist you can find online that was written by a group of Tesla enthusiasts. Just a few years ago one of the items on the checklist was “Make sure you can put the car in Park (and that it stays parked)”. (Ref: driveteslacanada.ca/…/Tesla-Model-3-Delivery-Chec…).
I’m not away of any other car where this was something people had to check before delivery — apparently it was a bit of a common problem for a time. That seems absolutely crazy to me, and a major failure of QA as it poses a significant safety hazard.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
My buddy messed up and spilled a drink in his model X. When pulling up the carpet and panels to clean up he found a bunch of blue painter’s tape where there were supposed to be wiring harnesses and screws. You’ll note that blue painters tape is designed to be temporary, and will not last more than a year or two.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Actually, no. Tesla always had huge QA issues. Panels not fitting on the cyber truck really isn’t the first time that stuff just doesn’t quite fit on teslas
thesven@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Nope. Tesla Model 3 Ranked Last In German TUV Reliability Report carscoops.com/…/tesla-model-3-ranked-last-in-germ…
2-3 years Tesla Model 3 14.7% defect rate
Stormy1701@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Since when does being right-wing make you a Nazi?
Nazi’s are far-right to the extreme, Musk and Trump are Right-Wing. Nothing more. Disagreeing with them doesn’t make them Nazi’s and calling them Nazi’s actually says more about that persons intolerance than they think it does.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Since when does being right-wing make you a Nazi?
We all saw the nazi salute, then we saw him do it a second time just to drive the point home.
Stormy1701@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
I’ve seen the video of him WAVING but I haven’t seen him do it a second time.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
You’re kidding, right? With your username being what it is, one might be tempted to think that you would know better than that…
Stormy1701@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
I’m not going to get into how the Federation are clearly space Nazi’s right now. However I’m not how sure how my username should effect my feelings about freedoms we no longer enjoy in the UK. Freedoms that according to the UK government only pedophiles and far-right extremists care about.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 year ago
With your username being what it is
Some people really like Section 31 and the Mirror Universe. And Ferenginar before it went all woke.
thesven@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Since when doing a Nazi-salute makes you not-a-nazi?
theneverfox@pawb.social 1 year ago
When you’re a billionaire. Then it turns out, you’re just giving your heart to the crowd. And then, when you fund and speak at Nazi party rallies overseas, you’re just fighting “woke” or something. And when you agree that “Jews are doing ethnic replacement” on Twitter, you just have to take pictures at a concentration camp and you’re a “friend of Israel”
But I do enjoy when people get fired because they think they can do it too
Quadhammer@lemmy.world 1 year ago
People really hate nazis my guy so even doing shit as a joke pisses people off. Its not cute its fuckin fighting words
I’d say I hate nazis about 3000% more than republicans hate immigrants
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Its not intolerance to refuse to support them. Being far right makes you a liar and bigot at the very least. I haven’t seen one example of a decent human being who considers themselves far right.
Stormy1701@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Everyone that isn’t a Leftist gets slapped with the far-right label these days though. Especially by the British government where ANY anti-immigration sentiment or even patriotism is branded dangerous far-right.
The term gets thrown around while most people don’t really understand it. That is what is dangerous.
Celestial6370@programming.dev 1 year ago
You won’t but you should watch this youtu.be/xDyPSKLy5E4?si=5gDaBVeGsFFwIBRz
Kolossos@lemmy.world 1 year ago
computerscientistII@lemm.ee 1 year ago
What?
Revenue [increased] 2% to $25.71 billion
Yes. Only 25.7 billion dollars. It’s practically dead.
realharo@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Q4 2024 was before all the overt nazi shit.
But I agree that calling it dead is premature.
Don_alForno@feddit.org 1 year ago
2%
It’s called inflation.
kyrax1213@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Pretty sure you’re focusing on the wrong number out of the two
doodledup@lemmy.world 1 year ago
For the Americans that don’t know the word Nazism: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism?wprov=sfla1
Although he has right-wing ideologies, there is no evidence of Elon Musk being a Nazi. A car can’t be a Nazi either.
I’m tired of all of the populism and strong headlines on Lemmy. Actual factual journalism gets burried deep in the feed.
yuki2501@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Oh fuck off, bootlicker.
doodledup@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Thanks for the civilized discussion. Have a nice day to you too.
psivchaz@reddthat.com 1 year ago
I disagree. He’s done enough that calling him a Nazi feels accurate to me. Or at least enough of a Nazi sympathizer that I totally support not doing business with him.
What I get frustrated by is justifying hurting the people that have his cars. Having a Tesla does not make one a Nazi sympathizer. You could maybe make the case that buying one today might, but even then I don’t think it’s justified attacking people for having a car.
If you want to be an extremist about it, hurt the dealerships and the company. Don’t go after people who are almost certainly not that different from you. The people keying cars just want to feel smugly superior to someone and feel morally justified for being an asshole, they don’t want to make anything better for anyone. If that’s how you act, you’re just a fascist with a slightly different ideology.
ArchRecord@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Let’s look through your own Wikipedia link.
Nazism […] [has] disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system.
The union hating, multi-million dollar lobbying, vote-bribing billionaire totally supports actual democracy guys, trust me!
Its beliefs include support for dictatorship
He actively supports Trump’s unitary executive theory and related policy goals.
antisemitism
Elon supporting an antisemetic tweet
anti-communism
He blames communism for making his trans daughter mad at him
anti-slavism
He actively supports stopping aid to Ukrainians and ceding their land to Russia
scientific racism
white supremacy
Nordicism
Here’s him spreading scientific racism that claims people of European descent are superior
homophobia
Elon refuses to enforce Twitter’s policies against homophobia and transphobia
ableism, and the use of eugenics
ultranationalism
white supremacy
He regularly promotes white nationalists online
The only very few, specific categories I didn’t find any explicit mentions of him doing in my 10 minutes of searching around were anti-Romani sentiment and social darwinism, and you’d be hard pressed to prove that everyone you’d probably otherwise consider a Nazi throughout history believed every single possible bullet point in this Wikipedia page.
If all this doesn’t make him a Nazi, then I don’t know what does.
pyre@lemmy.world 1 year ago
victorz@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Man, you can really see Adolf saying “Sieg Heil!” Scary stuff.
Not to mention the guy on the left.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t think I could do a better Nazi salute on purpose.
cynar@lemmy.world 1 year ago
History doesn’t repeat itself, but it does rhyme. Musk isn’t a member of the Nazi party. He does hold a lot of important views in common with them, however. He also associates with people who fit most of the rest.
What percentage do you think is needed before calling someone a Nazi?
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Saluting like a nazi is sufficient as far as I’m concerned.
dinckelman@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No evidence, except for that the entire first paragraph of that page describes his exact behavior. No need to be a bootlicker
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 year ago
nazis didn’t exist, they were all confused autists making awkward gestures
ziggurat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I guess you could say the same about Hitler, since he didn’t personally kill any jews. If killing jews isn’t a requirement then there is definetly evidence that musk is a neo-nazi
doodledup@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Seriously?
This is exactly what this polarizing title intended to do. Attract people like you who relativise the atrocities Hitler has done. Populism is a bitch and you’re falling right for it.
Just give me a informative article with normal title and stop filling Lemmy with all of this clickbaity populistic shit that helps nobody. I’m tired of it and tired of discussing it too.
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
“Ignore your lying eyes.”
Fuckin’ Nazi apologists.
doodledup@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No need to get personal. I’m open for a civilized discussion but not this.
uraniumcovid@lemm.ee 1 year ago
yeah, no evidence other than spreading antisemitism on x and litterær fucking heiling /s
Litebit@lemmy.world 1 year ago
well, his family, too. theguardian.com/…/elon-musk-peter-thiel-apartheid…
doodledup@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I legitimately didn’t know about that tweet. Can you share a source? I find a lot of articles but none of them quoting the content in full.
doodledup@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Confusing title. How can a car be a Nazi?
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 year ago
In the same sense that the kubelwagen was a nazi car. Now that I think about it, the kubelwagen kinda has similar lines to the cybertruck.
bitchkat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The same way you have a nazi uniform.
doodledup@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The audacity calling me a Nazi. You don’t know anything about me. Rekativising the atrocities Hitler has done by using Nazism as a common term. You don’t know anything.
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Your just gonna piss your ignorance all over this thread, like an old incontinent weiner dog, aintcha?
doodledup@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m voicing my opinion about titles like that. They are posted here to invoke a reaction. 99% of commenters here haven’t read the article. The title is the whole reason why it’s posted.
Kbobabob@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If you took a handgun from a Nazi, wouldn’t that be a Nazi handgun?
I didn’t think they are saying the car chose to be a Nazi
Lemmist@lemm.ee 1 year ago
That is a USA-style title. They love being loud and use strong words without understanding of their meaning. Cultural nuance.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 year ago
nobody wants a defective car.
hopesdead@startrek.website 1 year ago
I just want to stop seeing a storm of them when I am on a road. I can’t seem to drive anywhere without seeing approximately 10 within a single hour.
HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I guarantee that in a few months, mark my words, he will not be in Doge anymore, he will pivot to the Left, and SHE will come out as trans.
I would almost willingly put money on this.
Godric@lemmy.world 1 year ago
A more concise headline is “Nobody wants a Swastikar”
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Dunno, if it’ll blast marches …
FanciestPants@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Will he really need customers much longer? I mean it seems like he can just have any government agency replace their fleet with his trash in the name of “efficiency”.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 year ago
It is mental that a man worth billions in mostly electric car companyv shares is courting people who would run their cars on coal if they could.
ryanvade@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’ve seen an increase in new Teslas where I live, not a decrease.
Horsey@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Everyone forgets where the German cars, Henry Ford, etc came from politically.
I was looking into my first EV, and politics just didn’t weigh that much into the decision. Now, the “infotainment as a perpetual service”, that turned me off and away from Tesla. With CarPlay my car dash will never lose service, and will always be free to use with updates from Apple/Google. I can’t imagine why people would ever pay for their infotainment when CarPlay is better or equal in all cases to the alternative.
modifier@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
And the board is probably afraid to fire him now too.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nobody at Tesla headquarters voted to alienate their customer base. No board meeting decided to turn their electric car company into a political lightning rod.
This is technically not true. The board keeps Elon Musk on as CEO of Tesla, and they granted him the biggest bonus package ever, while he was already very controversial and clearly was losing his mind, because they thought he would be able to make them money.
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
8% drop in car sales isn’t great but I think the article is overselling the idea that the company is straight up dying. (Sadly) Most people just don’t make a connection between how they spend their money and the politics of the people they prop up.
PunnyName@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yet another asshole businessman with a business plan to fuck over the good name of Tesla.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Remember 2015? A Tesla parked in your driveway told your neighbours that you valued innovation, that you possessed an environmental conscience, that you had a stake in the future of the planet. The cars weren’t perfect, but they meant something. They represented hope - for clean energy, EVs, and a world beyond fossil fuels.
This was me years go. I new climate change was real and an imminent threat. I wanted to vote with my wallet for a cleaner future. I also wanted to strike a blow against the National Automotive Dealers Association for their regressive practices that hurt consumers and drive prices for cars higher for everyone. Buying a Tesla did those things. I charge the car on sunlight from my house. I was proud to be doing something rather than just talking about needs for changes against climate change.
Musk doesn’t get any of my money from this car. I don’t pay for any of the Tesla monthly services. I’m don’t want to be seen driving with a Tesla logo on the car. I’m ashamed that my good intentions funded a fascist.
xc2215x@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nazism has no place.
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
About a week ago I saw a brand new model Y (still had the 90 day temporary plate) sporting one of those “bought before elon…” stickers.
gutsnsuch@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Bs. The Chinese in Richmond BC don’t give a af about whiny white leftist problems.