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...is this retro?

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Submitted ⁨⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world⁩ to ⁨retrogaming@lemmy.world⁩

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  • SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    This is where it started for me. Skyrim, F:NV, GTA 4, Midnight Club: LA, Project Gotham, Halo 3, and not to mention the countless classic re-releases on XBLA. To think I would actually get into verbal arguments with my classmates over the 360 v.s PS3 console war.

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  • Heikki2@lemmy.world ⁨43⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    I pulled my XB360 out this week. Like many people living in the south, we were iced in for the last 4-5 days. As a way to entertain my toddler I pulled out the 360 and Kinect to play fruit ninja. He loved playing it and even beat my high score from the last time I played it back in 2015

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  • popcar2@piefed.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I hate to break it to you but… It’s been over 20 years. It’s more retro now than the NES was when the 360 came out.

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    • The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You’re hurting me.

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      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You know that ‘Cleopatra is temporally further away from the Great Pyramid’ thing?

        Grand Theft Auto V’s release date is closer to Half Life 2’s release date, than to the present.

        Grand Theft Auto 4’s release date is closer to the release date of the original Starfox or Street Fighter 2, than it is to the present.

        And you don’t even want me to do any date comparison for the following:

        … Let’s do the time warp Againnn!~

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      • MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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      • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s never too late to find a time warp to go back a few decades. The holos just don’t hit the same

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    • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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    • Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Wow the diminishing returns between that time really comes into focus.

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      • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I mean yeah. There isn’t that much of a drastic shift in game design, except for the bleeding of RPG mechanics into more genres, more roguelite mechanics in indie games (choose one of 3) and having equipment systems in multiplayer FPSes. The biggest hit of 2024 was basically solitaire.

        It’s hardly that much more different.

        Wheras, going from snes through ps1 to xbox 360, things went from 2d (and extremely crude 3d) to textured 3d with jank controls to high fidelity games with standardised controls. Not much changed after that. The huge “innovations” of VR, motion controls, are basically niche due to economic factors, so people aren’t exactly having commonplace motion control VR experiences that put them in the game and comparing that to ducking behind cover in gears of war. They’re comparing making cover in Fortnite with ducking behind cover in gears of war.

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      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Heres how that works:

        Gaming got popular.

        Normies like fancy graphics, production value, and are swayed by fake trailers.

        Corpos discovered they could turn everything into primarily a market for subscriptions and micro transactions, that houses a game, and most normies kept paying for all that untill the economy entered the Second Great Depression.

        … its basically Dutch Disease, but for video gaming.

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      • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The line between 4th and 5th gen (SNES to N64) was enormous, 5th to 6th was pretty significant, 6th to 7th was noticeable, and it’s been 20 years of small improvements since then.

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      • systemglitch@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Right. I bet more people play SNES than Xbox now as well.

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      • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        ¿Que? The 360 has a LOT of excellent games.

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    • Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, but the SNES became retro the moment the PS1 came out. That leap in tech was ridiculous.

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    • SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Frankly, the reason this is shocking to people is that games, graphically and mechanically, made leaps and bounds from the SNES to the 360, and gave largely stagnanted from the 360 to now.

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      • UnspecificGravity@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        A LOT of people have completely failed to grasp how much technology has stagnated in the last 20 years.

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      • not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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    • Rooskie91@discuss.online ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Me then: “Haha ‘time marches on’ what a cool phrase”

      Me now: “Yo, time, can we maybe slow the pace or take the break?” Time: “No. Only march on.” Me: visibly aging

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      • SalamenceFury@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I already have Father Time beating my ass before I even started playing Hades II lmao

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    • Nemo@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t believe you.

      You didn’t hate that at all.

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    • SalamenceFury@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      *crumbles into pieces like a Dry Bones*

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  • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The 360 was released in 2005. That’s over 20 years ago. Yes, they would be considered classics at this point. And know what, I wish more folks younger than myself discovered how gaming WAS and realize what it’s turned into.

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  • tehn00bi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Bro, we’ve been out of high school about 20 years now. Soooo yeah.

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  • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No way. Halo 3 trailer was just released no way it’s been 20 years.

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Wtf is a Halo 3? Atari just announced a new game based on that sick alien movie Spielberg just put out that’s super popular right now.

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  • AHorseWithNoNeigh@piefed.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Zelda20yearsago

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    • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s now 2026, so Zelda 20 years ago was:

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      • defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Breath of the Wild is almost 10 years old.

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      • SalamenceFury@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        W0HbtzZKSoQAqdj.gif

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      • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Except much lower resolution than that.

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    • The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And noticing that this tweet is already 5 years old is the cherry on top.

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      • brsrklf@jlai.lu ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The tweet was slightly off then, Gamecube was just released at the end of 2001 and Wind Waker is 2003.

        Ocarina of Time and Majora’s Mask were 1999 and 2000 though.

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  • kandoh@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They had Call of Duty 2 going on the in-store display setup at EB games when the console had just come out.

    There was a line to play it. Lots of people standing around just watching what was on screen.

    I remember thinking it would be impossible for games to ever look better than what I was seeing at that time.

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  • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t find this hard to believe at all.

    Tried to play halo 3 campaign for the first time a little while back.

    It really felt aged, like an upgraded ps2 game essentially.

    And this was the pc version mind you.

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    • lian_drake@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Broooo… 😭 what do you mean aged? Am I that old?

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  • slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It is over 20 years old… Fuck.

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    • The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If you had asked me before I looked it up, I probably would’ve placed the original Xbox at 20 years old. Time is flying by.

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      • Chronographs@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The one The picture is an xbox 360 s which is only 15 years old if that helps

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    • Denjin@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There’s more time between the release of the 360 and (picking a random game that released this week) Pathologic 3, than there is between then and the release of Super Mario Bros on the NES

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  • Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Theres no classics on that console

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    • BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      never heard of dead rising?

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      • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        or RDR1

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    • Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ninja Gaiden 2

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  • Arrkk@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Keep in mind the launch model of the 360 didn’t have an HDMI port, most people still had a CRT, and it didn’t even come with component cables, there was only a composite lead in the box, you had to pay extra for component cables if you wanted them.

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  • Jordan117@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Halo 3, Portal, and Super Mario Galaxy released closer to the launch of the Sega Genesis, the original Gameboy, and the fall of the Berlin Wall than today.

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    • InFerNo@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Genesis launched in 1988/1989. The wall fell in 1989. The Gameboy launched in 1989 as well.

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      • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes those are the two things that were grouped with the wall in that comment

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    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m only in my early thirties wtf

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  • rozodru@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I feel old consider the new resurgence in people wanting a PS2. you can’t find them anywhere anymore. all the retro game stores are selling out of them. Even the PSP is hard to come by.

    I remember waiting in line at the midnight launch of the PS2. I also remember waiting in line at the midnight launch of the first Xbox and having to convince my friend to also pick up Halo because I heard good things about it. He just wanted to get Cel Damage and Fusion Frenzy.

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    • The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s wild living through the time that these systems are brand new and pricey, then become practically worthless, and then become scarce and unaffordable forever.

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    • Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I remember my mom getting me Halo 2 two months after the release date and how excited I was because I knew how hard it was to get. That was 2004. Halo 2 is drinking age now.

      I remember getting a Wii after release but during one of the console drops. We were second in a line of about 10. I think they had like 4 available.

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  • DigDoug@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The Xbox 360 is as old now as the NES was when it came out.

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  • CatZoomies@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    @The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world - How could you do this to us? We’re here for laughs, not cry.

    I’m gonna hug all my retro consoles real close tonight.

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    • The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Age is just a number, or something.

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      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        This is your life, and its iterating one internal clock cycle at a time.

        (I recommend not tying too many vital specific timed calls directly to the clock speed of your particular hardware)

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  • Toes@ani.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The Xbox One is 12 years old. 🎁

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  • zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My back pain already makes me feel old, no need to throw memes at me.

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  • weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    In my opinion, no. For me it’s not about time, 360 for the most part plays just like any other present day console. Only difference is that development and marketing budgets went out of control (a trend that was already underway during later seventh generation), and the relentless stream of CoD, Halo and GTA clones stopped (THANK GOODNESS FOR THAT).

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    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I can still remember I think some new grounds stick figure type animated comic, made back when it was Macromedia Flash, not Adobe Flash, and it was mocking the idea of 20 years in the future we would have Call of Duty 16.

      … I think if you actually count them numerically we are now beyond 20.

      … 24 mainline games, apparently.

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    • SalamenceFury@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hey Saints Row 3 was actually funny

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    • sockinggood@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Jump, same. For me it starts at N64 era.

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    • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      When consoles got “accounts” and avatars, that was the death of them. Theyre just subscription dumb terminal spyware now.

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    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      GTA clones stopped (THANK GOODNESS FOR THAT).

      I mean, open world games are commonplace. It’s like saying “doomclones” stopped. Yeah, they became fpses.

      but on the other hand “realistic crime open world games” kinda gta knockoffs were more commonplace back then.

      Unfortunately, somehow, gta feels like a gta knockoff. I didn’t even finish V, and the satire just seemed less biting, and late to the punch. Like the jokes it was making had already been made elsewhere, so it felt stale and done before.

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      • InFerNo@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I can only think of driver, saints row, maybe simpsons hit and run. Were there any others worthwile?

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      • UnspecificGravity@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I guess it depends on when you played it. Remember that GTA5 came out in 2013. It was a little more current in its satire 10 years ago.

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    • Jesus_666@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It has Kinect Star Wars. And… that’s basically it.

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  • xianjam@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Well, it’s over 20 years old now, so probably. It’s also really easy to softmod recently. Last year I got one for $25 at a thrift shop and modded it, so it’s also a great time to get one.

    So far, I only played Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie on it though, and messed around a bit with the first release of Minecraft Xbox 360 Edition.

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    • Denjin@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Can you get XBL Arcade games running on it? Half the games I’d want to play were on the arcade rather than disc games.

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      • xianjam@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I actually only tested XBLA games, so yeah!

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    • ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Is the softmod on it persistent between reboots? Last I looked into it you had to run the exploit every time.

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      • xianjam@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yep, that’s still true. However, you can install ABadAvatar onto a USB stick which will run the exploit automatically upon startup. It usually takes about a minute for the exploit to successfully start and occasionally crashes (only happened to me once).

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  • veeesix@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I still use my old wired 360 controller to play games on my laptop. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!

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    • Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Same! I love the form factor of it and it still hasn’t given out yet. Only thing that made me even think about wanting to replace it was the haptic/adaptive triggers on the PS5 controller. Don’t like the form factor but man those triggers are nice.

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      • GrantUsEyes@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Its a nice controller but they are fragile af, look at them wrong and they start to act up.

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  • brsrklf@jlai.lu ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I mean, if NES was retro in 2006, XBOX 360 can be retro in 2026.

    though I have no idea what counts as classics on 360

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    • Peffse@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Image

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      • brsrklf@jlai.lu ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        OK, that definitely counts.

        Congratulations, would totally accept a shady surprise burger from you.

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  • saltesc@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It is on a timeline, but not tech.

    If you compare 1985 to 2005, holy shit. So many classics because of mind blowing advances.

    2005 - 2025… Well, there’s still 2005 games that go hard with some mods. We really rely on gameplay and story to make a classic now.

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  • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s been twice as long since the 360 released as it was between the PS1 and the 360.

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  • Peasley@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I think it became retro when the 9th gen consoles started coming out.

    To me, current gen is current, previous 2 generations are not retro, and anything older is. Many 360 models still had analog video out (as did the PS3 and Wii), so arguably it’s the final generation built with CRTs in mind.

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  • Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It isn’t retro because it’s beefy enough to not be emulated easily. And yes, by that definition, the Wii is retro.

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  • SculptusPoe@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    SNES was peak and most evergreen due to the games being peak pixel art before everything went 3D. Nearly every SNES game is still beauitful. I tried playing some N64 games, and they are so ugly that they are nigh unplayable.

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  • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    DREEEAAAAMCAAAAAAAASST!!

    DREEEEAAAAAAMCAST!!

    *is quickly surrounded and tackled by shadowy xbox figures*

    DREAMC-argh!

    . . . dreamcaaaaaaast!

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  • Luci@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yes. Getting old is hard.

    Just go with it and let the newer generations enjoy what you did.

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  • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I ded

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