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...is this retro?

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world⁩ to ⁨retrogaming@lemmy.world⁩

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  • popcar2@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I hate to break it to you but… It’s been over 20 years. It’s more retro now than the NES was when the 360 came out.

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    • The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You’re hurting me.

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      • MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You know that ‘Cleopatra is temporally further away from the Great Pyramid’ thing?

        Grand Theft Auto V’s release date is closer to Half Life 2’s release date, than to the present.

        Grand Theft Auto 4’s release date is closer to the release date of the original Starfox or Street Fighter 2, than it is to the present.

        And you don’t even want me to do any date comparison for the following:

        … Let’s do the time warp Againnn!~

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      • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s never too late to find a time warp to go back a few decades. The holos just don’t hit the same

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    • Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Wow the diminishing returns between that time really comes into focus.

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      • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I mean yeah. There isn’t that much of a drastic shift in game design, except for the bleeding of RPG mechanics into more genres, more roguelite mechanics in indie games (choose one of 3) and having equipment systems in multiplayer FPSes. The biggest hit of 2024 was basically solitaire.

        It’s hardly that much more different.

        Wheras, going from snes through ps1 to xbox 360, things went from 2d (and extremely crude 3d) to textured 3d with jank controls to high fidelity games with standardised controls. Not much changed after that. The huge “innovations” of VR, motion controls, are basically niche due to economic factors, so people aren’t exactly having commonplace motion control VR experiences that put them in the game and comparing that to ducking behind cover in gears of war. They’re comparing making cover in Fortnite with ducking behind cover in gears of war.

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      • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The line between 4th and 5th gen (SNES to N64) was enormous, 5th to 6th was pretty significant, 6th to 7th was noticeable, and it’s been 20 years of small improvements since then.

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      • systemglitch@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Right. I bet more people play SNES than Xbox now as well.

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      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Heres how that works:

        Gaming got popular.

        Normies like fancy graphics, production value, and are swayed by fake trailers.

        Corpos discovered they could turn everything into primarily a market for subscriptions and micro transactions, that houses a game, and most normies kept paying for all that untill the economy entered the Second Great Depression.

        … its basically Dutch Disease, but for video gaming.

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      • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        ¿Que? The 360 has a LOT of excellent games.

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    • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • Rooskie91@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Me then: “Haha ‘time marches on’ what a cool phrase”

      Me now: “Yo, time, can we maybe slow the pace or take the break?” Time: “No. Only march on.” Me: visibly aging

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      • SalamenceFury@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I already have Father Time beating my ass before I even started playing Hades II lmao

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    • SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Frankly, the reason this is shocking to people is that games, graphically and mechanically, made leaps and bounds from the SNES to the 360, and gave largely stagnanted from the 360 to now.

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      • UnspecificGravity@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        A LOT of people have completely failed to grasp how much technology has stagnated in the last 20 years.

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      • not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, but the SNES became retro the moment the PS1 came out. That leap in tech was ridiculous.

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    • SalamenceFury@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      *crumbles into pieces like a Dry Bones*

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    • faultyproboscus@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You’re a generation off: Its more retro now than the NES (US release) was when the 360 came out. We crossed that threshold about a month ago.

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    • Nemo@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t believe you.

      You didn’t hate that at all.

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    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Why…why would you do this

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    • ieGod@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Perhaps I’m in a minority but when the PS and 360 first debuted I did not consider even the NES to be “retro”. I would have applied that term to the likes of an Atari 2600 or colecovision.

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      • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The NES and Atari are separated by mere 6 years. The NES and Xbox 360 are separated by nearly 22 years.

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  • AHorseWithNoNeigh@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Zelda20yearsago

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    • The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And noticing that this tweet is already 5 years old is the cherry on top.

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      • brsrklf@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The tweet was slightly off then, Gamecube was just released at the end of 2001 and Wind Waker is 2003.

        Ocarina of Time and Majora’s Mask were 1999 and 2000 though.

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    • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s now 2026, so Zelda 20 years ago was:

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      • defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Breath of the Wild is almost 10 years old.

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      • SalamenceFury@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        W0HbtzZKSoQAqdj.gif

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      • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Except much lower resolution than that.

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  • slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It is over 20 years old… Fuck.

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    • The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you had asked me before I looked it up, I probably would’ve placed the original Xbox at 20 years old. Time is flying by.

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      • Chronographs@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The one The picture is an xbox 360 s which is only 15 years old if that helps

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    • Denjin@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There’s more time between the release of the 360 and (picking a random game that released this week) Pathologic 3, than there is between then and the release of Super Mario Bros on the NES

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  • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The 360 was released in 2005. That’s over 20 years ago. Yes, they would be considered classics at this point. And know what, I wish more folks younger than myself discovered how gaming WAS and realize what it’s turned into.

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    • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s so blocky now. Even to my eyes, I can no longer play that Q_Q

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  • Arrkk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Keep in mind the launch model of the 360 didn’t have an HDMI port, most people still had a CRT, and it didn’t even come with component cables, there was only a composite lead in the box, you had to pay extra for component cables if you wanted them.

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  • mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I thought it was called the 360 because when you see it you turn 360 degrees and walk away.

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    • polotype@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Dunno if i’ve been whooshed or if you have a poor understanding of geometry, but have a good day either way.

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      • mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It was a meme when the 360 got released.

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    • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Moonwalk away. Hee Hee.

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    • hOrni@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It was called 360 because they didn’t want to release an Xbox 2 when PS already had 3. So they came up with 360 bullshit because it’s kind of like 3. So now PS are conveniently numbered and I have no idea which Xbox is the newest.

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    • JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You turn 360 degrees youre still walking towards it.

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  • SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s 21 years old this year 😭

    Take solace that old != obsolete.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s older than the NES was when the Dreamcast was released.

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      • SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        i.makeagif.com/media/7-11-2017/K8s8B_.gif

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    • candyman337@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That particular 360 is the new Xbox 360 that came with the Kinect and is only about 13 years old

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  • Darkness343@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wake up, gen z boys and girls. You are not kids anymore. You are old af.

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    • dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      as a young millennial right on the cusp of gen z, it’s been great seeing them discover mid 20s aging as I enter my early 30s :)

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      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Though on the flip side, remember that however old you are right now, it’s also the youngest you’ll ever be going forward.

        Feeling old in your 20s? Many people are active into their 60s, some keep going strong into their 90s.

        Unless you’re recovering from illness or injury, the current version of your body might be the best version you’ll ever see again.

        Though one suggestion that left my own body far more capable, if you’re the skinny and weak type, do some proper workouts. Proper as in spend the time to learn proper form and also ensure you’re getting enough energy and protein in your diet. You’ll gain strength that will stay with you until you do get really old (assuming your body doesn’t atrophy due to starvation or being bedridden before then).

        Eg, when I first started working out, I couldn’t curl 20 lbs, had to go down to 15. But I was curling 20 a week or two later and was pushing 40 lbs about a year or two later, then my workout habit dropped off and 8 years have passed and I can still curl over 30 lbs when I get curious in the dumbbell section of stores that carry them.

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      • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        it feels like there are 2 kinds of people: those who feel old at 23, and those who don’t stop feeling like a child until every hair on their head and face is gray.

        I’d fall into the latter category because i’m 26 and i don’t feel quite adult yet, despite the front of my chin being gray already.

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      • Darkness343@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I know xd they still believe they are little kids dependent on daddy and mommy.

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  • xianjam@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well, it’s over 20 years old now, so probably. It’s also really easy to softmod recently. Last year I got one for $25 at a thrift shop and modded it, so it’s also a great time to get one.

    So far, I only played Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie on it though, and messed around a bit with the first release of Minecraft Xbox 360 Edition.

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    • Denjin@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Can you get XBL Arcade games running on it? Half the games I’d want to play were on the arcade rather than disc games.

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      • xianjam@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I actually only tested XBLA games, so yeah!

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    • ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is the softmod on it persistent between reboots? Last I looked into it you had to run the exploit every time.

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      • xianjam@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yep, that’s still true. However, you can install ABadAvatar onto a USB stick which will run the exploit automatically upon startup. It usually takes about a minute for the exploit to successfully start and occasionally crashes (only happened to me once).

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  • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No way. Halo 3 trailer was just released no way it’s been 20 years.

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Wtf is a Halo 3? Atari just announced a new game based on that sick alien movie Spielberg just put out that’s super popular right now.

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      • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        How is that going to work as an arcade cabinet‽

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    • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m sorry…

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ll only accept a console is retro if you can emulate it playably on a phone.

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    • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So the PS3?

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  • weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In my opinion, no. For me it’s not about time, 360 for the most part plays just like any other present day console. Only difference is that development and marketing budgets went out of control (a trend that was already underway during later seventh generation), and the relentless stream of CoD, Halo and GTA clones stopped (THANK GOODNESS FOR THAT).

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    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I can still remember I think some new grounds stick figure type animated comic, made back when it was Macromedia Flash, not Adobe Flash, and it was mocking the idea of 20 years in the future we would have Call of Duty 16.

      … I think if you actually count them numerically we are now beyond 20.

      … 24 mainline games, apparently.

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    • SalamenceFury@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hey Saints Row 3 was actually funny

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    • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      When consoles got “accounts” and avatars, that was the death of them. Theyre just subscription dumb terminal spyware now.

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      • weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think what killed the traditional console are the hardware progression and the decline of physical games. In 90s consoles had very different specs that gave them specialty. When you bought one it deteremined what kind of game library you would have access to, not just a few exclusives. And playing them was super convenient, you popped in your cartridge or disk and you were good to go.

        Neither of those things exist today. While the console form factor still has value, there is no justification for the closed ecosystems around them in my opinion.

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  • xtools@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Amazing console that can be easily softmodded nowadays. mine has a 1tb hdd attached, with over 200 games (incl. ~1/3 from xbox classic). I’ve been using it more than the PS4 or Steam, until I modded my PS4 too recently

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  • BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I need to re-cap my childhood Turbografx, so my toddler can experience some family Dungeon Explorer. She’s the age I was when my parents bought it.

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  • tehn00bi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Bro, we’ve been out of high school about 20 years now. Soooo yeah.

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  • Jordan117@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Halo 3, Portal, and Super Mario Galaxy released closer to the launch of the Sega Genesis, the original Gameboy, and the fall of the Berlin Wall than today.

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  • veeesix@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I still use my old wired 360 controller to play games on my laptop. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!

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  • SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I still have an OG Wii. That thing is a BEAST, even today.

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  • DigDoug@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The Xbox 360 is as old now as the NES was when it came out.

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  • Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Theres no classics on that console

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  • CatZoomies@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    @The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world - How could you do this to us? We’re here for laughs, not cry.

    I’m gonna hug all my retro consoles real close tonight.

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  • Toes@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The Xbox One is 12 years old. 🎁

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  • brsrklf@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I mean, if NES was retro in 2006, XBOX 360 can be retro in 2026.

    though I have no idea what counts as classics on 360

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  • Mwa@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Touhou mentioned 🗣 (i am pretty sure thats Sanae Kochiya from Touhou at the bottom panel)

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  • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t find this hard to believe at all.

    Tried to play halo 3 campaign for the first time a little while back.

    It really felt aged, like an upgraded ps2 game essentially.

    And this was the pc version mind you.

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  • rozodru@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I feel old consider the new resurgence in people wanting a PS2. you can’t find them anywhere anymore. all the retro game stores are selling out of them. Even the PSP is hard to come by.

    I remember waiting in line at the midnight launch of the PS2. I also remember waiting in line at the midnight launch of the first Xbox and having to convince my friend to also pick up Halo because I heard good things about it. He just wanted to get Cel Damage and Fusion Frenzy.

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  • saltesc@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It is on a timeline, but not tech.

    If you compare 1985 to 2005, holy shit. So many classics because of mind blowing advances.

    2005 - 2025… Well, there’s still 2005 games that go hard with some mods. We really rely on gameplay and story to make a classic now.

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  • umbraroze@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My current annoyance: my Xbox 360 works just fine, but none of the controllers turn on while battery powered. (IR remote works, but it’s not exactly suitable for gaming.) And Xbox 360 was the pinnacle of Microsoft’s “well we have to do slightly incompatible shit just for the hell of it” attitude - you can’t just use a standard USB cable, it uses USB over a weird proprietary connector. (On the other hand, I’ve looooooved Xbox One and later controllers on PC)

    My Halloween tradition is Bullet Witch - had to jank up the PC version to working state last year when I first noticed this problem with the 360 controllers.

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  • RalfWausE@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Recently i feel the years piling up on me… i mean, for me, personaly, in my feelings, a C64 is old, a Core2Duo with 2 GB RAM is still a pretty decent office machine, i still convert € to DM in my head and an Xbox 360 is still the console i was well too eager to buy a couple of years… goddamn… about 20 years ago.

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  • zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My back pain already makes me feel old, no need to throw memes at me.

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