Skullgrid

the whole arc of the story is that the writer sucks, and that light is a jackass.

More comments on this :

lemmy.world/post/37621306/20045412

the one with WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALES

obligatory www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLB1AI9acGM

part 1?

No, the Atatürk that stopped Turkey from being torn to pieces by the Entente and established a secular, westernised and modern republic in the middle east.

Meanwhile Ataturk : Can you fuckers make ONE opposition party that isn’t going to be full of Political Islamists so we can move to a multi-party democracy?

Dies.

Ironically in Singapore :

Lee Kuan Yew :

Please give water lah. Singapore does not want to be independent, I don’t want to be Prime minister

Tunku Abdul Rahman:

Get the fuck out of Malasia.

Then LKY proceeds to run Singapore for 40+ years until he dies, but still has regular elections… but there are harsh punishments for disobeying laws.

How exactly? Because he went and fought in different countries instead of governing in Cuba with castro, who is literally in the meme?

Good work providing good context

I mean… I’m turkish and I don’t fully agree or identify turkey itself as 100% european. No, not because of “ThE eUrOpEaN pArT oF iStAnBuL”, but because of the way our country and citizens behave. Countries further east have no hope.

Also, because of a theme I’ve mentioned several times : they’re claiming to be european for clout. If you’re trying to put yourself in the better clout group, and it’s doubtable, you should be trying to make the other group’s clout better instead of trying to jam yourself in where you are not fully represented.

Ow the edge

Yeah, coercive and dangerous. We’re on the same page. Let me be an edgelord too. Why should you have all the fun?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide#Religious_groups

Under the leadership of Pol Pot, who was an ardent Marxist atheist,[163] the Khmer Rouge enforced a policy of state atheism. According to Catherine Wessinger, “Democratic Kampuchea was officially an atheist state, and the persecution of religion by the Khmer Rouge was only matched in severity by the persecution of religion in the communist states of Albania (see Religion in communist Albania) and North Korea (see Freedom of religion in North Korea).”[164] All religions were banned, and the repression of adherents of Islam,[165] Christianity,[166] and Buddhism was extensive. It is estimated that up to 50,000 Buddhist monks were massacred by the Khmer Rouge

that’s right, he had Epicanthic folds because he was from east asia, just look at any pictures of Korean Jesus.

Georgians and Armenians tend to identify more with Europe than Asia

good luck to them.

ow the edge. Praise Dawkins and Saint Hitchens

1. Which queens?

2. it’s not that she “produced” a female heir, it’s that henry 8 didn’t nut boys in her because he’s a p2w scrub who couldn’t figure out the right centrifugal hip move to get the boy sperm to come out right.

I wonder if the turkish “Metal fırtınası” (Metal storm) is something like that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_F%C4%B1rt%C4%B1na

People would not shut up about “Our Boron mines!” after that book.

MIKHAIL AKHMANOV

ASSIRIYSKIYE TANKI U BRAT MEMFISA

(Next to Mikhail Akhmanov) ABSOLYUTYOYE ORUJIYE

(On tank) ZA FARAONA

…

Wait…

Mikhail Akhmanov, sure.

ASSYRIAN TANK with BROTHER MEMPHIS???

Absolute origin??

TO PHAROHS???

if we’re going for gender stereotypes, it’s hardly masculine and butch to sit there in a comfortable place all day.

• signed, a programmer

Yeah, I don’t think I have a codeberg going at the moment because I want to do CC4NC.

There’s like some scripts I don’t mind people making derived commercial works since they’re fucking tiny, but other than that, I don’t want people getting rich off my code.

Is your code free for others to do whatever the fuck they want to with it? : codeberg

Do you want to put certain restrictions (eg financial)? Gitlab

Aang was a shit dad?

All we wanted to know was whether a hot dog is a sandwich…

I don’t know anymore man, it’s a sausage? 😭

In a fully-automated luxury communist utopia, the Maquis are selfish assholes. Clinging to a planet because of the inconvenience of having to relocate. A planet which was never theirs to give or take in the first place.

fucking a-men!

great take, especially

The way some of the Maquis stories are told in late TNG and then DS9 is not the best Trek has to offer.

OK… but it very much feels like a protracted escalation that is to lay at the feet at the Colonists refusing the fucking leave, and the Cardassians acting, predictably like assholes.

HUDSON: I knew him. Bill Samuels was a farmer. He cultivated his land for twenty years. He raised two kids on that land. He made something out of that land and the Federation told him he had to give it all up to the Cardassians. Well, he just was not willing to do that

SISKO: And it was people like him who made both sides realise that some accommodation had to be made for the colonies so they could stay.

I mean, this nails the fucking thing on the head. Bill wanted to take advantage of the hard work he did, which is fair. He was warned the Cardassians owned the planet now, and that if he wants to stay safe, he needs to leave, and that the Cardassians are assholes. He says no. Ok. The federations says “Look, we have this treaty, but we aren’t going to do jack to enforce it. You’re on your own”. He says OK. The Cardassians act like assholes. Shock , horror. Now Bill is mad, that the people he was told was going to fuck him over , fucked him over.

Let’s pan over to somewhere else now.

Imagine you are a Cardassian Colonist, and you are working on a terraforming mission. You’ve been on Unnamed Planetopia for 15 years and worked on a mine so that your family in Cardassia could afford a house or fucking whatever. Then, some human asshole bombs your planet with cobalt diselenide, and you gurgle to death as your lungs turn to liquid.

Your Cousin on Bill’s planet hears the news about yet another human acting like shit on an planet owned by Cardassia, and how you , and your entire colony was wiped out by that fearsome maverick, Michael Eddington, and he has enough of that poison to kill every Cardassian in the DMZ.

Eddington has attacked a Cardassian colony with a biogenic weapon. The chemical used was cobalt diselenide, created from the selenium and rhodium nitrite, which is lethal to Cardassians but harmless to most humanoids. The Maquis have already announced an intention to reclaim the planet. Also, with the amount of biogenic weapons the Maquis have, they can poison every Cardassian colony world in the Demilitarized Zone.

…fandom.com/…/For_the_Uniform_(episode)

Do you really think that this shit is making things any better for anyone? Does anyone expect Gul Generic to act civilised towards Bill getting in his face when his cousin and the entire fucking colony choked to death in agony?

Obviously, the tales in Star Trek, are morality plays based on things in history. The problem is that the federation is meant to be fair, just and able to provide everything people need.

It boils down to a few ideas :

• Personal risk management
• Post war border settlements and their adjustments to the new borders.
• The "inevitability of the federation"

Personal risk management

The colonists accepted the risk that the Cardassians would treat them unfairly, and the risk came out badly for them. Just like when people go skydiving or rock climbing and sign waivers to accept a personal risk, the colonists accepted the risk that the cardassians would treat them like shit. The federation can try to rescue them, and I’m sure the cardassians would let them flee, but they want to fight, and they fucking ask the federation for assistance. Bruh, fuck off. There are more controversial ways of looking at this, but , if you choose to take risks, don’t act out cry “unfair” when the risks don’t go your way. There are people like this IRL that gamble or make risky choices, and cry foul when it goes sour; it’s part and parcel of that risk. I’m not saying those people shouldn’t be offered assistance after, but insisting on validation that they didn’t make a mistake and to continue whatever lifestyle they want is bullshit.

Post war border settlements and their adjustments to the new borders

In IRL there are places that end up in the “wrong country” due to a settlement post war/conflict/treaty. The well being of those places are almost always dependent on what happens between the two countries in the following years. Some examples can be seen on wikipedia :

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_divided_cities

Some places of note to think about :

• Dahagram–Angarpota
• Baarle-Hertog/Nassau
• Alsace
• Tyrol

One of the weirdes enclave/exclave situations were set up in the border between India and Bangladesh, which literally lead to people dying and services being completely busted and inaccessible to local people. Its exact opposite would be Baarle-(Hertog/Nassau), where due to the Schangen agreement and the peace and co-operation between Belgium and the Netherlands, life in the village is peaceful and largely indifferent to the notions of enclaves and exclaves.

Alsace(–Lorraine) was a disputed territory between france and germany, especially during WW1, and a thorn in the side for negociations for peace. At present, similarly to Baarle, due to the peace between france and germany and the EU, things seem to be going all right for them. Same goes for Tyrol and Austria/Italy. There are contentions, but no one is getting blown up over it.

The “inevitability of the federation”

While this is not something that’s part of IRL, it is an interesting idea I saw in a video :

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbys9HJvSXA (this fucking things is half an hour long)

Bottom line : The federation is too damn efficient for other cultures to not eventually make peace and trade with it instead of being a pain in their ass. They will inevitably stop wars with you, and start being your allies, one way or the other. It happened to the Klingons, and it “is happening” to

NB: I am not talking about post burn. Fuck you, I’m not going to cover an entire millenia of fake history.

Eventually, the federation will settle the disputes with cardassia, and establish more amicable relationships with them. Then the DMZ will be pacified, things will get bettter for the inhabitants of planets in and around the DMZ, both federation and cardassian.

But you gotta let go man. Diplomacy can’t continue when you’re polluting entire fucking planets and harming civilians on either side.

I’m tired. What was the question again?

They do plenty of terraforming adjacent tasks in TNG, mainly for planets that have recently joined the federation, or are undergoing some kind of collapse prevention. I think the issue with Project Genesis and similar is that they were “bombs” that would instantly overwrite the ecological system on a planet with a predetermined one, wiping out the existing ecological system in the process, to put plainly, killing everything.

The terraforming I’m talking about is stuff like earthquake mitigation, adjusting “atmospheric conditions” to stop greenhouse effects or similar, etc. And it’s all signed off in triplicate from the federation etc, not just lobbing a terraforming bomb at a planet on a whim.

IDK, the universe is pretty vast, and they seem to be tripping over M class planets. Also, there are several other classes of planet available and they do some terraforming, it wouldn’t be too far fetched to say they took a “not quite M-Class” planet and did a little terraforming and had that up for grabs.

do they have the right to defend themselves when the Cardassians violate the terms that they agreed to and tried to drive them off those worlds?

When you word it like that, they deserve to defend themselves if/when the Cardassians violate the terms of the treaty they reached with the former UFP/Current Cardassian colonists.

Which is the key term here. AFAI remember, they agreed to be subjects of Cardassia, which means the planet belongs to the Cardassians, which means they are probably going to mine the shit out of every natural resource on there.

However, if they have specific details they hammered out with these descendants of native americans, I don’t thing was specified in the episode.

It’s sort of the point of the thread, so it seems a little odd to suddenly try to make it sound silly.

I understand and appriciate that, my point is more that they arrived at “a peace treaty” I don’t know if it was to stop a war, prevent a war or whatever, just that “A peace treaty” was made, and the circumstances are irrelevant to the matter of the right/wrongness of Maquis behaviour.

it is to stop an interplanetary war.

The Federation and the Cardassians were not at war when the treaty was signed…

You really want to split hairs about the fine details of fake politics?

It’s sort of the point of the thread, so it seems a little odd to suddenly try to make it sound silly.

Like, putting a peace treaty at risk presumably would cause a war, or “bad things”. That’s what I mean. The Maquis are putting peace at risk by throwing their tantrum, regardless of how or why the peace treaty was needed.

yeah, you wanna explain the good friday agreement to me? Or do you just want all the protestants off the siland?

what sultan? who? Someone got punched?

This is basically a random picture of a pretty lady and a year