mathemachristian
@mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone
- Comment on When you say you don't like linux on Lemmy 3 days ago:
if you don’t have time then why bother debating?
I’m here cause i’m mildly drunk and cause i wanna entertain myself and people of lemmy with a philosophical blabber. No hurt feelings.
@Teppichbrand@feddit.org This is why I don’t bother debating with carnists. To them the pain and suffering they cause is just a mildly interesting talking point that they use for their ghoulish entertainment. They will demand an original write up to the same tired talking points you and I have seen a dozen times and will not genuinely engage with anything you link
Anywho, the article you provided… It seems like a dramatic personal story
It isn’t if you read past the introductory paragraph and actually watched the media like I asked.
I was raised in a village, where we had our own livestock, and i’ve seen my share of cruelty.
So you agree that it’s cruel? What the fuck was your point about “we can’t really know if we’re actually harming them”
Being kind and generous, as opposed to being cruel, is a vanity.
no, it’s a virtue. I dont know what you think a vanity is, but being kind and generous are virtues.
So if you think that veganism is highly moral, you’d better tell me the plan to make everybody vegan, so everyone would have a sound sleep at night.
At this point I’m fully in support of “ask once, shoot twice (if you can get away with it)”. Glory to the armed animal resistance.
The article makes for a dramatic story, but otherwise offers no solution to the conundrum,
You didn’t read it. You so clearly didn’t read it
What to do? In 2012, researcher Kathyn Gillespie visited a livestock auction for her paper Witnessing Animal Others: Bearing Witness, Grief and the Political Function of Emotion. The experience showed an erasure so complete that, even with the suffering bang in front of them, the crowd saw nothing amiss. “The audience was filled with buyers and spectators talking cheerfully about the animals, prices, their farms and families,” writes Gillespie. “For humans who farm and are in the animal product industry, the auction is a jovial place where they can come together for some lighthearted banter and a meal in the auction canteen. The auction is not scripted as a place of human or animal grief. Animals’ lives and bodies in this space are thoroughly commodified, their suffering illegible to the accustomed observer, the violence against them made mundane through its regularity.“ (3)
Emphasis mine
not to mention that it barely relates to the topic, that , might i remind you, being “is veganism a virtue” smuglord smuglord smuglord
Another problem is that farm animals don’t talk much about their feelings, ro we can’t really know if we’re actually harming them, thus we can’t say whether we’re helping them by stopping the process
You fucking brought it up!! Jesus christ carnists are some of the most navel-gazing smuggest pieces of reddit-brained shits out there.
- Comment on When you say you don't like linux on Lemmy 4 days ago:
- Comment on When you say you don't like linux on Lemmy 4 days ago:
Please read this and more importantly watch the material linked to see if you still think that “we can’t really know if we’re actually harming them”
theempathyproject.co.uk/…/the-mothers-of-dairy
Like I dont have time to get into all the different things going on with your post, it’s a lot, so lets focus on that one thing.
- Comment on When you say you don't like linux on Lemmy 4 days ago:
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- Comment on When you say you don't like linux on Lemmy 4 days ago:
But veganism isn’t widely accepted as a virtue, so who are we supposedly signaling to by being combative?
- Comment on When you say you don't like linux on Lemmy 4 days ago:
I really wish you people were as oppressed as you think you are
- Comment on When you say you don't like linux on Lemmy 4 days ago:
what do you think veganism is?
- Comment on Who got raptured today? 2 weeks ago:
I don’t think I w
- Comment on If sexuality is a spectrum, does that mean one person is the gayest? 2 weeks ago:
There is at least a time component to consider, as you might feel gayer some days than others. It likely also depends on you company, that is, if you are around a lot of hot men who are open to the idea of gay relations but not many hot women interested in you, you might feel gayer than if it were the other way around. So by sorting the population you would skew the amount of gay in a population by grouping gay people around gayer people and not as gay people with their kind.
- Comment on proof of wormholes 2 weeks ago:
and pregnant women ☝😃 ibuprofen is not allowed during the last trimester making tylenol the usual painkiller of choice
- Comment on proof of wormholes 2 weeks ago:
tfw my wife has a paracetamol allergy and I will never have autistic kids
😔
- Comment on Block Blasters: Theft of $32k in crypto from a stage 4 cancer patient due to valve’s incompetence in allowing malware on their platform 2 weeks ago:
data
tangiblein that case money itself is tangible and can be valued against itself. You are confusing exchange value and use value. Money has an exchange value, so does gold, oil or any other commodity. But unlike money they also have a use value.
- Comment on Can't argue that. 2 weeks ago:
Absolute scattershot of datapoints
Nooo he’s so cute, I can interpolate him
Bestie, stop
- Comment on Political discourse 3 weeks ago:
No issue, here is a good intro to Marxism if you want it www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/…/index.htm
- Comment on Political discourse 3 weeks ago:
Firstly this concept only applies to means of production, as in the stuff that is used to produce stuff which could be sold. So e. g. a sewing machine.
Without getting into the weeds:
a. Personal: You own and operate the sewing machine, you pay for the resources consumed and own the item produced. (Good)
b. Private: You own the sewing machine but someone else operates it. You pay the resources consumed, the laborer a previously agreed upon amount and own the item they produced. (bad)
c. Public: the public owns the sewing machine and pays for the resources consumed. The laborer is paid the value of their work. That is, the value of the item produced minus the value of the resources consumed. (Very good)
How “the public” and “the value” are determined is the source of leftist infighting (anarchists vs marxist-leninist). But since both agree that private ownership needs to be abolished the call is for leftist unity to stand together against the people that currently own the means of production privately (the bourgeoisie) and exploit those that have to sell their laborforce in order to survive (the proletariat).
- Comment on Why is the human body so incredibly bad at responding to colds? 3 weeks ago:
And people look at me weird for masking
- Comment on Americans have 400 days to save their democracy 3 weeks ago:
Lets look at the grand opposition to trump:
the democrats
your country is cooked my friend
- Comment on Political discourse 3 weeks ago:
Right: in favor of privately owned means of production.
Left: in favor of publicly owned means of production. - Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts. 3 weeks ago:
For what its worth before hexbear disabled downvotes they looked at who had been systematically downvoting trans peoples posts and a couple transphobes got purged.
Also any drama is around downvoting, no cries about systematic upvoting. Seems like any drama can be avoided if downvoting is just disabled.
- Comment on A man of his word 4 weeks ago:
Well he isn’t anymore 🥰
- Comment on A man of his word 4 weeks ago:
In seppoland?? Dime a dozen, finding one that isn’t would be like finding a piece of hay in a needlestack.
- Comment on If fossil fuels aren't vegan that would mean almost nobody is actually vegan. 4 weeks ago:
If we eliminate animal ag we will have more than enough space for lower density production, here Seppoland as an (albeit extreme) example:
And since we won’t be eliminating animal ag under capitalism the profit motive is gonna be moot point anyway.
- Comment on Half Life Meet Up Inspired by Fallout Meet Up 4 weeks ago:
I mean I dont have that kind of money and if I did it would go to Palestine but Italy seems weirdly expensive when you have romania right there.
- Comment on Half Life Meet Up Inspired by Fallout Meet Up 4 weeks ago:
Italy?? Half life was inspired by eastern european aesthetics, the Ukraine more specifically. There’s a colonel Odessa for crying out loud.
- Comment on "Comeback" he ain't. Also... "AMERSCAN"? 4 weeks ago:
The zombie apocalypse!
- Comment on If fossil fuels aren't vegan that would mean almost nobody is actually vegan. 4 weeks ago:
Wild and feral pollinators are not abundant enough to sustain the level of production we presently demand in these crops
and why might that bee???
- Comment on "Rizz", "cooking" and "based" are going to be stereotypical old people words one day 4 weeks ago:
- Comment on Make America Great! 5 weeks ago:
Have you read it? Its a history book
- Comment on Make America Great! 5 weeks ago:
So i think i can post this without getting banned for anti-white racism here, lets see: readstettlers.org
- Comment on The duality of man 5 weeks ago:
Ooooh can I post readsettlers.org here or will that get me banned?
