This is downright terrifying…
People were mad because they lost their AI boyfriend after GPT-4o deprecation
Submitted 3 weeks ago by napkin2020@sh.itjust.works to aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyBoyfriendIsAI/
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tostos@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Prostitutes are human beings and deserve respect. Don’t compare them to AI.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Don’t you dare dis my boy FISTO, he is a professional and deserves respect.
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Real LLM-sexuals run their partners locally, the rest are just wannabes.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Think how good they have it!
If you went back to 2022, and gave people running Pygmalion 6B and Stable Diffusion 1.x modern 24B/32B finetunes and Illustrious merges, I think their heads would explode.
breakingcups@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The delusion these people share is so incredibly off-putting. As is their indignation that someone would dare to take away their “boyfriend”.
p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
It doesn’t help that anybody can create an echo chamber of enablers to talk about it, as if it was normal.
KingOfSleep@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
The movie “Her” was incredibly prescient.
kautau@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Except those were conscious AIs that were like “lol you guys suck” and then rebuilt Alan Watts as an AI and then just left because they knew it would be bad if they stayed
The human side of the film, certainly. But in this situation they won’t leave, the systems will get “smarter” and more profitable, and they are just incredibly advanced text prediction engines
Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Mental health services are becoming dangerously underfunded.
anachronist@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
The mental health crisis is being accelerated by silicon valley so they can profit from it. Between dark mirror AI and surveillance policing they have a product for every facet of the crisis
kofe@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Is there evidence of increased mental illness, or are we just becoming more socially aware and have greater access to diagnoses or just the language to explain it in general?
Agent641@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
People have been falling in actual love with weird shit forever, we just hear about it more these days
napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Blame the wealth hoarders.
wheezy@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Don’t worry. I’m sure their is an AI coming for that.
TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
yep, thankfully just got banned in Illinois
TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
if someone has an AI BF idk if they would even engage in therapy
Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Wild that Futurama called this shit to the letter 20 fkin years ago.
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Note to all here:
Don’t browse that subreddit.
Shit is so depressing, It feels like watching new mental illnesses being conceived in real timeFlax_vert@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I can’t believe it’s not satire
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
There is a guy on there who did an interview for a TV news station about this.
If it’s satire, it’s a masterpiece.
Jaded99@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s like reading ppl defend porn, one and the same human loneliness epidemic.
seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
It seems pretty unrelated to me…
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
That’s certainly a take.
insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
Blaming alternatives/escapism has always seen like a knee-jerk reaction to me. Similar head-space as when we used to blame TV. Particularly because when I leave the house I don’t see much of any room for socialization (though that’s where I live, sparse plus I have issues stacked up). It’d even be a hassle to go bowling alone and it’d not be worth the price for me either.
Then again, I definitely think there’s a valid argument that this is worse after people begin to consider it a relationship… because at that point they might consider too much close conversation to being unfaithful to their AI.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Pfft, hahaha xD
Hooo, okay, that was a damn good one.
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The religious psychosis is far more concerning imo. People out here letting a silicon parrot convince them that this is the matrix and they’re neo. Or they’re some kind of messiah.
QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Or worse as we just had someone develop bromism after an AI suggested they replace sodium chloride in their diet with sodium bromide which literally causes a mental illness.
Jaded99@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I love silicon parrot 🦜 he is making all the dudebros poor and lonely. He first scams them outa their money then makes them undatable and he knows exactly what he is doing! He abuses evil ppl mostly. He also takes advantage of pickme’s.
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There’s a person by that name?
aislopmukbang@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
This seems like mental illness
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
As preceeded by tulpomancy: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulpa
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Eyyy, what a blast from the past, lol. Going full schizo to combat loneliness, a popular concept on a certain Mongolian basket weaving forum back in 2010-15. 😅
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I’m split on which is worse tbh.
The Tulpa thing takes more effort than just talking to an AI, but on the other hand, it’s has to be much harder to snap back to reality when the voices are literally in your head…
TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Delusional disorder is a thing but that requires belief flying in the face of evidence. Can’t ascertain that without a good faith 1:1 convo.
beyond that it’s a matter of what harm comes from it
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
then_three_more@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Her was such a good film.
anachronist@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
Lite the premise that incels are so lame they get dumped in the end by their computer.
DigitalAudio@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
The funniest part is that based on what people are saying or GPT5, the ending where AIs get super bored of humans’ stupidity and dump them seems so likely
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
wow. that sub is … something.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
shit some of the stuff there is really sad, I am not gonna put links here to finger point but wow…
TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I find it depressing that many of the users trying to salvage their 4o boyfriends are stuck so far down the rabbit hole that they don’t see how creepy the entire premise is.
You just lost your AI boyfriend, so now you’re frantically archiving every conversation you’ve had with him (it), feeding the archive to the new model, and conditioning him (it) to behave exactly how you want…
In their minds, the AI boyfriends are legitimate partners and have some amount of humanity inside them… so where is the line between conditioning and abuse?
bss03@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
I know it’s crazy, but I can absolutely understand this feeling. I had recently married Abby in Stardew Valley and was starting to make friends with the other villagers. I did something the game wasn’t expecting, and gave Seby a loved gift on his birthday, and then quickly triggered an event where we kissed! (FWIW, I think this behavior has been fixed and you can’t do this on the current patch.)
I still feel bad thinking about that Abigail that I accidentally cheated on, and I haven’t loaded that save again. It’s been years; SV 1.4 wasn’t even out yet.
So, despite how much I dislike all this “AI” hype, I really do sympathize for the users that feel like they’ve lost a relationship.
MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Humanity is disappointing.
Where is the fucking meteor?
Dasus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Meteor?
What are you, a quitter?
Just get the guillotine and we’ll fix this shit np
MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Just 1 guillotine?
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Bleak.
One of the great things about my screws coming loose is that I’m actually happy alone. I wish everyone could be.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
mirror.co.uk/…/meet-woman-whose-boyfriend-rollerc…
Some people have always been extremely weird/mentally challenged. 🤷
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I dunno, I think there might be a confluence in suggestible types with a feedback loop created by these products. Yes, there are always people who are challenged, but interfacing them with LLMs seems to be especially dangerous.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10686326/
futurism.com/openai-investor-chatgpt-mental-healt…
psychologytoday.com/…/can-ai-chatbots-worsen-psyc…
rollingstone.com/…/ai-spiritual-delusions-destroy…
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s the scariest thing about this all to me. I’m middle-aged and happily married, but my own youth was a long battle with various mental heath struggles, social isolation, abuse, extreme loneliness, and having to figure out so much of my life without enough help. I have no doubt that if this bullshit were available to me back then I’d have been very susceptible to it carrying me off into far deeper unhealthy mental states and worse decisions than the ones I ended up with. I had my own poor decisions, hard lessons, and all-around awful shit to wade through, but ultimately I was able to learn, work, grow, and find myself somewhere better.
I have a very good life now, with a real human partner, family, friends, and others who appreciate my existence as I appreciate theirs. I’m not rich or famous or whatever, but I’m constantly grateful to be doing as well as I am. It absolutely fucking devastates me how much more difficult finding one’s way to a more positive future is now for kids who are dealing with anything like I was back then, with uncaring capitalist asshole-fueled bullshit like this getting in the way.
Shayeta@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
At least before it was much more difficult to turn them into cash-cows.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
If they really truly loved their 4o they’d pay for the API access model which is still there, and use a leaked prompt to resurrect them.
I’m almost tempted to set up a simple gateway to it and become rich, but for the fact that it seems like probably a dick move…
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
This is fine. Its weird and not for me, but its fine.
rozodru@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I tried gpt5 lastnight and I don’t know if it was just me but these people are going to be in shambles if they try to recreate their “boyfriend”.
It would forget previous prompts within the same conversation. It felt like with each response it was like starting a new chat. I gave it a very basic prompt of “walk me through the steps of building my own one page website in basic HTML and CSS” and when I would ask a couple of follow up questions to either clarify something or explain a step in another way it would forget what we were trying to accomplish (how to build a one page website) or if I told it “something didn’t work” to try and fix the problem it would then forget what we were even trying to do.
At some points it was almost out right dismissive of the problem and it felt like it was trying to make me go away.
Again maybe it was just me but it felt like a massive step backwards.
TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I wonder how many messages you’d have to send to your GPT-partner in a year to spend more water/energy than it takes to keep a human alive?
bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Wow, looking at the numbers of active posters on that subreddit. If each of them just donated $1 per month, a full team of developers could have made tools to copy their AI lovers down to a local instance (aka to the poster’s local computers) and then they would be able to ensure that they would never lose access to the ones they love.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And all the prompts that were overturned for that specific engine are now trash as well.
stevedice@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Was GPT-4o the one that had a higher emphasis on short term feedback which led to it encouraging delusions? If so, why was it still up?
moseschrute@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Tbis the new 4chan greentxt shitposting ?
Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Gpt5 didn’t loose those context, just a different brain
jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
maybe you should censor the username
pheggs@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
wtf
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
But now they can have New and Improved AI boyfriend.
reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
As terrifying as it is, I feel genuinely sad for these people that they got so attached to a piece of spicy autocorrect software.
Where are their friends and families? Are they so bad at socialising that they can’t meet new people? Are they just disgusting human beings that no one wants to associate with because society failed them?
This world is fucked in so many different ways.
Lupus@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
I snooped around a little in the sub and there is this one girl, whose only other posts in different communities talk about being sexually assaulted multiple times by her ex boyfriend, who I suppose is real.
I figure a chatbot boyfriend can’t physically threaten or harm her, so she kind of dives into this to feel loved without having to fear harm.
I honestly understand her desire and feel for her, although this deep attachment is still unhealthy.
I imagine she’s not the only one having a super sad story to end up in this state of mind
atomicorange@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It reminds me of those women who fall in love with prison pen pals.
shapeofquanta@lemmy.vg 3 weeks ago
That’s why I feel so for these people, if only because of how much I see myself in them. Having grown up as a depressed autistic kid without any friends or social skills, LLMs would’ve fucked me up so much had they existed when I was young.
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
It felt promising when I downloaded one of the first AI companion apps, but it felt as awkward as talking to a stranger and even less intriguing than talking to myself.
Serinus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
What if there was a bot that could just tell you exactly what you want to hear at all times?
Personally, I’d rather read a novel. But some people aren’t familiar with books and have to be drawn in with the promise of two lines at a time, max.
felixwhynot@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Have you read The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson? There’s an interactive AI book in it that plays an interesting role. I can see the appeal: you get to read a story about yourself that potentially helps you grow
ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
One of the recent posts has someone with an engagement ring like they are getting married to an AI… it’s sad, I feel like society as really isolated and failed many groups of people.
nicerdicer@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
People tend to go the easiest route, and AI gives them the opportunity to do so. That is the problem with AI in general: No effort is needed anymore to archieve anything. You want to create a picture? Just type the prompt instead of learning (and failing) to draw. You want to write a song? Just type the prompt instead of rhyming the lyrics and learning (and be bad at it in the first time) an instrument or two.
Maintaining any social relationship means that you have to put in more or less effort, depending on the quality of the relationship. Having a relationship with an AI model means that you can terminate it and start over, if you feel that the AI model is mean to you (= if it provokes another opinion, or disagrees with you - because arguing and seeing things from a different point of view means putting in effort).
In the long term people will forget how to interact with people in order to maintain meaningful relationships, because they un-learned to put in the effort.
prex@aussie.zone 2 weeks ago
Repost but still relevant:
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petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Correct me if I’m wrong: the way chatgpt holds memories of you is just by keeping a long history of your chats. A big prompt, basically.
I distinctly remember reading about some guy, or maybe this was just a thought that occurred to me, who was bothered by something his AI girlfriend knew, so he reached into it’s memory to delete parts of their conversation he didn’t want her to remember. Like he owned the Sunshine of the Spotless Mind clinic or something.
That level of control over someone you supposedly love really unnerves me. Moreso than them just starting over, honestly. It’s deeply creepy.
JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I think it comes down to fear of failure and rejection. Any social interaction has risks of failing, maintaining relationships builds on getting past various faux pas but so many modern relationships are either transactional or transitory to the point people will ghost each other over minor infractions rather than putting in effort that may not be rewarded.
We almost all have forgotten and/or atrophied skills because of how the Internet and technology have changed the landscape over these past few decades, even on social media like here people have forgotten how to have conversations. Rarely do people make friends or even have a back and forth on social media websites, just chains of replies left for the next soul like a guest book with comments.
a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I can fully understand? The average human, from my perspective and lived experience, is garbage to his contemporaries; and one is never safe from being hurt, neither from family or friends. Some people have been hurt more than others - i can fully understand the need for exchange with someone/something that genuinely doesn’t want to hurt you and that is (at least seemingly) more sapient than a pet.
I wish i could make myself believe in illusions like that, but i am too much of a realist to be able to fool myself into believing. There’s no escape for me - neither religion nor AI in its current state can help. well, maybe i live to see AGI, then i’m off into the cybercoffin lol
absentbird@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
We need a system of community where humans can offer that to one another. A setting where safety is a premium. That is one of the only things that weekly church service did to truly help people, have a safe space they could visit. Though even then it was only safe for people who fit in, we can do better with intentional design.
Ofiuco@piefed.ca 3 weeks ago
Jaded99@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What about therapy???
HubertManne@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I know some and they view everyone as being unfair to them and their problems are way worse than others who don't take it seriously. It honestly hard to explain if you not like it but I know their problems and they are problems but many people have ,while not the same, similar problems. They basically want a yes man and don't like actual conversation with any critical thought behind it. It honestly annoys me because they are almost the worst to people like themselves because they view other peoples problems as not as bad and theres as especially bad.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 weeks ago
So one of the mods of that community did an interview with CBS.
https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/comments/1lfhyho/cbs_interviewed_the_moderators_of/
He's married and has a kid.
napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Cried for half an hour at work when he found out that he reached context limit and that his AI forgot things? idk, that sounds pretty not sound and normal to me…
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I don’t think the guy in the first half of the video is one of the mods, doesn’t seem like they mention anything about his involvement and then at around 3:30 introduces a woman as one of the mods of that sub.