lmmarsano
@lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com
- Comment on A bit of salt makes it taste more savory 1 week ago:
Horseshoe theory
the far-left and the far-right are closer to each other than either is to the political center
are both fascists
Are closer doesn’t mean are the same: horseshoe theory doesn’t support your claim.
They’re both authoritarians that repress human rights. They’re as bad as fascists. Identifying those elements that make them as bad—authoritarianism & repression of human rights—clarifies discussion.
When we articulate problems accurately, we can criticize them in all guises.
- Comment on A bit of salt makes it taste more savory 1 week ago:
What did OP directly say or do in their post to direct a response to them rather than the image? All we have is their image in no particular context, an interpretation of the image, & a hypothetical statement I wrote?
- Comment on A bit of salt makes it taste more savory 1 week ago:
randomly criticize someone else over a meme
Someone else or the meme? Are we getting worked up over generic you?
The observation that perceived denunciation for “fighting fascists” around here may more often be someone deluding themselves, so the image rings false with self-delusion is a critique of the meme.
- Comment on A bit of salt makes it taste more savory 1 week ago:
Semantics is literal meaning, though. Words mean things.
I’m sure there are many words for left-wing authoritarians: fascist isn’t it. Instead of making fascism meaningless, can we pick a correct word?
- Comment on A bit of salt makes it taste more savory 1 week ago:
No problem: sometimes we all need a reality check when we go tilting at windmills as is custom around here.
- Comment on A bit of salt makes it taste more savory 1 week ago:
Self-satisfaction at stretching the definition of fascist.
If you’re getting downvoted here where anti-fascism thrives, and you think it’s for criticizing fascism, then there’s probably something else going on (and you’re probably being an idiot).
- Comment on A bit of salt makes it taste more savory 1 week ago:
tankie troika
Gotta admit that is way better.
- Comment on A bit of salt makes it taste more savory 1 week ago:
Tankie Triad
Are tankies the pro- or anti-fascist crowd? I thought they were far left. It’s hard to keep track of all these vying affiliations.
- Comment on Bluesky has started honoring takedown requests from Turkish government 1 week ago:
He also said bluesky’s shift toward a traditional corporate structure and the introduction of centralized moderation tools were major factors behind his leaving the company, and he vouched for alternatives like nostr.
It seems a bit more challenging to pull shit like this on nostr.
- Comment on Are there any Lemmy/Mbin instances by women for women? 1 week ago:
Guilty as charged. What is my sentence for this crime?
- Comment on Are there any Lemmy/Mbin instances by women for women? 1 week ago:
don’t call women “females”
It’s fine. Call men “males”, too.
- Comment on Another Wikipedia Admin Caught Making PR Edits 1 week ago:
People roman ?
I found it odd, too: dictionary entry. I’m guessing it’s cross language: romance languages tend to place nouns before modifiers.
- Comment on Another Wikipedia Admin Caught Making PR Edits 1 week ago:
- Roman people
- pull request
- parliamentary report
- press release
- prize ring
- proportional representation
- Puerto Rico
- Permanent Resident
- Progress Report
- Pressure Regulator
- Park Ridge
- Pattern Recognition
- PageRank
- Planning and Responsibility
- Performance Review
- Performance Rating
- Problem Report
- Papa Roach
- Personal Record
- Peer Review
- ⁝
- Comment on Jack Dorsey and Elon Musk would like to ‘delete all IP law’ | TechCrunch 1 week ago:
You wouldn’t download a car?
- Comment on Elevated 1 week ago:
Doesn’t a little fecal matter elevate everything? 😄
- Comment on OpenAI's move to allow generating "Ghibly stlye" images isn't just a cute PR stunt. It is an expression of dominance and the will to reject and refuse democratic values. It is a display of power 1 week ago:
I understood exactly what you were saying & assuming: it’s just wrong and off-topic.
The article contends “generating Ghibli art style” is an attack on democratic values, which is bullshit. You’re saying I’m advocating for disrespecting artists, which I’m not, and has nothing to do whether “generating Ghibli art style” attacks democratic values. The pointless outrage over who is or isn’t “respecting artists” is a distraction from the broken thesis of the article: it’s wrong & you’re letting that appeal to emotion & red herring fallacy
- distract you from the fact that the article’s conclusions don’t follow from its premises
- demonize people who point this out as somehow “against artists”.
That’s wrong, irrational, and you’re falling for the article’s deception.
- Comment on Adobe Gets Bullied Off Bluesky 1 week ago:
worthless when the website itself decides thatbit won’t show you the content
Businesses are legally bound to make their online content accessible: a screenshot without alt text doesn’t solve this for them. Isn’t it common practice around here to link to archives? Quoting & linking isn’t worthless.
quoting? you mean, all of the response tweets?
Yes. Unreasonable? No, compulsory & common standard industry standard. Out of legal necessity (and market reach), they already write text out (as alt text for all meaningful images). An image of a tweet with replies requires writing all that text out.
Try this exercise yourself to realize how pointless an image of text is (which images of tweets mostly are). Take an image of text, write the markup to display the image, include an
altattribute set to the full text shown in the image. If you have any sense, you’ll return to the source of the image to copy & paste the original text into thealtattribute. If you lack sense, you’ll tediously read the image and retype it into thealtattribute. Your choice.Realize anything yet?
- You’re returning to the source, so linking it is basic sense, right?
- You already write text out, but your effort is wasted as a flat text attribute for an image that adds nothing compelling, only some meaningless visuals of UI artifacts. That text could instead be the main attraction with semantic mark up (blockquotes, paragraphs, lists, etc). It makes more sense to skip the image entirely & quote the text directly: less work, more functional, better.
and how do you quote images, videos?
The way it’s already done. Online news doesn’t typically give screenshots of images or videos. They link, embed, or copy the image or video to directly provide it alongside some quotes.
Selecting lines of text instead of rectangles of screen to copy & paste isn’t a novel, farfetched idea.
- Comment on Adobe Gets Bullied Off Bluesky 1 week ago:
If the point is to reproduce an image, not text, then yes, definitely provide those images. Agreed: nothing wrong in that.
- Comment on Adobe Gets Bullied Off Bluesky 1 week ago:
As written multiple times, there are better alternatives. Disregarding them is shortsighted ableism. I suggest working on your attention span.
- Comment on Adobe Gets Bullied Off Bluesky 1 week ago:
In that case, too, the text can be quoted, then just like magic it’s accessible. A quote that links to the source is a strong combination.
Everyone benefits: the text is searchable, reflowable, adaptable to multi-modal input & output, easy to quote via copy & paste, etc. Screenshots don’t inherently give any of that. It’s simply more useful.
- Comment on Adobe Gets Bullied Off Bluesky 1 week ago:
No
Please stop with the “ablism” thing to shut down anything good but not good enough.
What is not helpful is calling people tomstip using a normal day to day tool just because it isn’t perfectly adjusted for < 1% of the Internet users.
Emphatic no to your no. Disabling content isn’t good or helpful. Disabled content is worse for everyone: no source, less functionality, less to corroborate, often harder to read. It’s only “good enough” for people like you while pointlessly excluding those unlike you, ie, ableism.
we can improve upon this by, I dunno, making an image format for screenshots that allow for alt text or whatever.
A new technology isn’t needed: not breaking what isn’t broken is enough. Better alternatives have existed since the beginning of the web: linking, embedding, or even copying & pasting the text into a blockquote. A screenshot of web content is a shitty tool serving the able-bodied.
If I can’t see the info on bluesky without an account then yes, a screenshot should be required.
That’s a strong argument for pressuring bluesky to cut their crap instead of enabling their structural ableism by taking screenshots. The alternatives mentioned before still exist.
Bluesky content can be deleted
There’s this crazy feature where if you select the text instead of a rectangle of screen, you can copy & paste it. Always been there. About the same number of steps. Wild.
I’m not saying I don’t care about them
Whether you “care” doesn’t matter when the effect is the same as not caring and the simplest actions anyone could take aren’t taken. The effect of that blithe, inconsiderate disregard is structural ableism. Rather than take the easy way out & reinforce this, we each have to power to address it.
Unlike the abstract issues often discussed here far removed from our control, these are practical actions within our immediate control. We all have power with the simplest of gestures to make our content accessible instead of selfishly able-centric.
Choosing not to when we know better indicates who we are. Defending acts to harmfully disable content also indicates who we are.
- Comment on Adobe Gets Bullied Off Bluesky 1 week ago:
Sources can be recovered in archives & web caches. Screenshots can be fake.
- Comment on Adobe Gets Bullied Off Bluesky 1 week ago:
I can’t see any screenshots
how lazy is this “journalism” where they don’t copy the images
Images of web content usually break accessibility (implicit ableism) unless alt text is provided, which really amounts to a poor substitute for embedding content, block quoting, or linking to source (what the web was made for), where no alt text is needed because the actual text is there.
Stop breaking accessibility: oppose inaccessible screenshots of accessible content.
- Comment on Nice try 2 weeks ago:
Vegetables on the other hand
A dietician once explained to me that children are extra-sensitive to bitter flavors like those of vegetables, and this sensitivity grows milder with age, so their special aversion is only natural. I recall feeling extremely hostile to vegetables then at some age feeling shocked that it just vanished & I could appreciate them more.
- Comment on YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy 2 weeks ago:
Why even bother with a hate speech policy? Oh, right, money.
- Comment on OpenAI's move to allow generating "Ghibly stlye" images isn't just a cute PR stunt. It is an expression of dominance and the will to reject and refuse democratic values. It is a display of power 2 weeks ago:
The "platinum rule"
- falls apart when people expect something wrong or unreasonable
- isn’t reciprocal
- fails to judge actions based on whether the actions themselves are right or wrong.
While the golden rule has flaws, too, (why someone came up with categorical imperative), at least it’s reciprocal.
The platinum rule is to treat others as they would want. One way to treat others is to let them do as they want. People would want that, so according to the platinum rule, we should. Can we oppose them? People wouldn’t want that, so we shouldn’t.
The platinum rule obligates actions followers may disagree with (eg, someone wants treatment others think is wrong). To address that, a follower may want to be treated in ways that don’t create unwanted obligations. If we disagree about the right way to be treated, then we give them unwanted obligations. Thus, we shouldn’t disagree.
In effect, the platinum rule prohibits dissent, which is unjust. This platinum looks more like pyrite.
In particular, the platinum rule obligates the artist to let & not oppose someone who wants to express themselves with derivative art. Expressing oneself with derived art is not even an act done to or treatment of the artist, so arguing for respecting the artist with the platinum rule is questionable.
Anyhow, in a discussion about democratic values (contention of the linked article), no position on whether an artist should be respected matters, because it clarifies nothing in the defense of democratic values. “Respecting wishes” isn’t a democratic value and neither is being a good person. Individual liberties such as freedom of expression are democratic values. Defending that democratic value means allowing whatever regardless of whether we should respect artists. That’s why I wrote it doesn’t matter & such arguments are “futile & senseless”.
It’s also why I don’t state my position on it: it’s a red herring that doesn’t defend democratic values, which I’m arguing to do while the linked article argues an undemocratic message (exercise of free expression is wrong) that purports to be prodemocratic. Even if I agree with (I could!), it’s beside the point.
I think it’s worth pointing out that respect doesn’t mean fulfilling someone’s wishes or treating them however they want. While that would be nice, satisfying nonobligatory expectations is not a duty, and not doing it is neither right nor wrong. Respect means treating someone fairly, justly, which includes accepting their freedom not to appease every expectation. Claiming we should always respect people’s wishes is bizarre and indicates lack of experience or failure to imagine how that obviously goes wrong. We can’t satisfy everyone, nor are we here to. This just seems like basic sense.
- Comment on OpenAI's move to allow generating "Ghibly stlye" images isn't just a cute PR stunt. It is an expression of dominance and the will to reject and refuse democratic values. It is a display of power 3 weeks ago:
Not at all: logical ethical principles (golden rule, harm principle, freedom of the individual) & basic individual liberties in a free society. Such a society where people are free to express themselves without doing actual harm is a benefit to the world “at large”. The alternative would be bleak.
- Comment on OpenAI's move to allow generating "Ghibly stlye" images isn't just a cute PR stunt. It is an expression of dominance and the will to reject and refuse democratic values. It is a display of power 3 weeks ago:
To answer your question, it’s more about arguing for basic freedoms consistently than about arguing for disrespect.
When approaching these ethical questions, I think it’s best to focus on the individual & moral reciprocity: should someone be able to express themselves in a way that offends me? As long as it obeys the harm principle, the answer is yes. Accordingly, anyone should be free to express themselves with imagery in the style of Ghibli (using tools such as AI) even if it offends the studio’s founder, since it results in no actual harm.
Since morality should be based on universal principles that don’t depend on contingent facts of an agent (such as their characteristics), I find it clarifies questions to approach technology with their non-technological equivalents. Would it be wrong to train a person to learn Ghibli art style so they could produce similar works in that style on demand? The harm of that is unclear, and I would think it’s fine.
I don’t see a general duty for a free society to fulfill a wish unless it’s more of a claim right than a wish. In particular, criticism is a basic part of art: a duty not to criticize artists (who wish not to be criticized) would be unjust. While an artist should get credit (and all due intellectual property rights) for their work, once it’s out in the wild it takes on a life of its own: people are free to criticize it, parody it, & make fair use of it. Some wishes don’t need to be fulfilled.
- Comment on OpenAI's move to allow generating "Ghibly stlye" images isn't just a cute PR stunt. It is an expression of dominance and the will to reject and refuse democratic values. It is a display of power 3 weeks ago:
you’re a bad troll
Haters gonna hate.
the entire thread was about AI IP theft
Answered: that part you didn’t read.
It’s funny the largely anti-capitalist crowd doesn’t care about intellectual property until their favorite bogeyman shows up. Then they suddenly “care”: whatever it takes to take down AI, right? Even if it takes us down with it.
I don’t like weak arguments that try to manipulate our emotions with our favorite targets of animus, nebulous claims of threats to cherished values, misuse of the word fascism. The person’s liberty to express themselves (even in ways we dislike with technology we dislike) is more important than an argument that rings false.
you threw in a red herring
Your moral hypocrisy? The coherence of your “moral code”?
just to make personal attacks against me
Does it suck to be judged for the actions you’ve demonstrated here?
I’m also not here contemplating killing someone over dubious theft (of expressions!): that was all you.
when you are challenged you claim abelism
Also, whenever I come across it & feel moved: the casual inconsiderateness of online images of text is noticeable & easy to call out. Instead of distracting nonsense, turning that useless online outrage & public shame toward something concrete we ourselves can address today (like web accessibility) might do some tangible good for a change. Sustained long enough, it might catch on & make us more considerate in that 1 small yet noticeable way.
it’s really pathetic and gives differently-abled people a bad name. you should be ashamed of yourself
Does it? Someone here should be ashamed.
If we’re done getting distracted with ourselves, the point remains that the article is a manipulative argument lacking substance.
- Comment on OpenAI's move to allow generating "Ghibly stlye" images isn't just a cute PR stunt. It is an expression of dominance and the will to reject and refuse democratic values. It is a display of power 3 weeks ago:
more images of text alt text that misleads people with accessibility needs
So just to be clear
- false “IP theft” (derivative works in a similar style aren’t theft) that harms no one violates your moral code
- discrimination that objectively disadvantages the disabled is fine to you.
Much can be understood about someone’s sense of morality in their actions (eligible for moral consideration) toward the disadvantaged. Does that person treat others as that person would want to be treated by them? Do they prioritize a cause that doesn’t address a credible harm over causes of credible harm?
Your distorted moral code & moral claims are questionable.