I will stop freaking out when they will stop trying to shove it down my throat all the time
Need a keyboard with a dedicated "slop" button
Submitted 3 weeks ago by ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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pH3ra@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Denjin@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
That’s what she said!
^I’m sorry^
Donkter@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“she” being a conservative woman talking about pronouns again
pH3ra@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
^I’m sorry^
No, you’re not xD
LaggySnake@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
ai or pronouns
Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
That doesn’t narrow it down, are you a conservative bigot, or just an AI-hater?
pH3ra@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I’m a conservative bigot only when it comes to AI
jballs@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
My conservative neighbor posted something online about the gays “shoving their lifestyle down her throat.” That phrase must be being pushed from Fox News or something.
kibiz0r@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Pretty insulting comparison, tbh.
Pronouns: Expanding language to communicate the humanity of other people.
AI: Distilling language to package human communication as a sellable product.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
One of the most insidious things that has happened over the past few decades is this overarching narrative that the left and right are equally evil and two sides of the same coin. That they are in any way comparable.
Windex007@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If you want to take this one step further, it’s the the inevitable result of identity politics in general.
Once you decide to generalize away per-issue stances just to paint them “left or right”, “red or blue”, “my team your team” then it becomes trivial to make an argument that both sides are the same, or conversely that both sides are polar opposites. Whatever suits you.
Republicans and Democrats both shovelled weapons to Israel. They are thus, as a whole, identical. Indistinguishable. Republicans are erasing reproductive Rights. Democrats are trying to guarantee them. They are thus, as a whole, complete polar opposites.
Generalizing from the specific is a convenient mechanism, but error prone, and it leads to absolute trash discourse… Which in turn leads to a failure of consensus for specific demands to make during a protest.
“No Kings” isn’t realistically actionable.
Honytawk@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
It is supposed to be insulting, to make you think about it.
Like it shows your definition of AI is lacking. Nothing about AI says it needs to be able to be sold. That is the Capitalist take on it. Because they want to sell everything.
AI (or LLM as you describe it) is nothing more than computer generated text. It says nothing about how it should be generated or what is should be used for.
In that context, if your mind immediately goes to slop when AI is mentioned, then you are no different than the ones who start fuming when pronouns are mentioned.
hark@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Move over gamers, AI shills are the most discriminated group now!
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
It’s wild that OP would think these two things are equivalent.
Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody, and the people frothing at the mouth are going out of their way to hurt people who did nothing wrong.
AI (in its most common meaning at this time in pop culture) at the minimum is wasting electricity (and it’s associated climate impact), and has the potential to totally decimate the job market and usher in an era of inequality that we haven’t seen for hundreds of years, while simultaneously stealing from artists. The people frothing at the mouth aren’t hurting anyone.
To use a bit of hyperbole, it’s kinda like if you said:
Some of y’all see “white power” and freak out without processing anything that’s being said, like a conservative who sees a mixed race couple.
Like pretty clearly people have a good reason for freaking out when they see that, and the other side of the equation are just bad people.
jimjam5@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes, it’s totally okay starve millions of homes of water and jack up their utility bills to be able to summarize articles and write emails. (/s)
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I can’t tell if you’re agreeing or disagreeing with me
Because you wrote your reply like a criticism, but the content seem to agree with what I wrote
Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t think OP thinks they are actually equivalent though, it’s just a satirical comparison.
Another comparison could be vegans. Environmental impact of meat consumption is huge and it also has the more obvious harm and ethical issues.
Vegans get a lot of shit anyway, but imagine if every comment or post about meat, regardless of where it was or in what context got a barrage of abrasive comments from vegans?
You will never convince someone of your cause if you’re a dick to them. It’s a huge internet trait to just go full meltdown at everything rather than talk with some you don’t agree with to aim for a better outcome.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I get that, and the vegan comparison is good. But I get why vegans act like that, even if I don’t share their opinion.
In both of these cases you’re arguably pushing for a better world.But the difference is that veganism is changing the status quo and isn’t popular, while opposing AI is maintaining the status quo and is popular.
You’re never going to convince a true believer even if you’re kind to them, so there is no point being kind. A mean message to an AI supporter isn’t actually to the AI supporter, it’s to their audience, establishing a zeitgeist.
AI is bad, and if we let up the vocal opposition, that’ll make its way into more popular forums and we’ll lose the zeitgeist, and policymakers will notice it, and then we’ll start losing shit like workers rights.
happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
the OOP is a joke. They didn’t specify if that reaction is bad in that case
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Ah, that false quote is beautiful. It’s like watching an effortless right hook delivered squarely onto the jaw of whoever Rocky Balboa is fighting.
Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
[…] Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody […]
This feels like a hasty generalization. For example, if one is experiencing gender dysphoria, we could assume that misgendering them with their undesired pronouns would cause them psychological distress ^[1]^ — ie harm.
References
1. Type: Article. Title: “Gender dysphoria”. Publisher: “Wikipedia”. Published: 2025-08-05T16:25Z. Accessed: 2025-08-06T04:23Z. URI: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria. - Type: Text. Location: ¶1. > Gender dysphoria (GD) is the distress a person experiences due to inconsistency between their gender identity—their personal sense of their own gender—and their sex assigned at birth.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
That is a willful misinterpretation of what I wrote.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
I will stop freaking out when naive techbro men stop the ecological mass murder and ecological discussion that they supposedly NEED to do to sustain their shitty knockoff of a religion/cult.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Silicon valley is just a convoluted project to revive prey enlightenment Christianity, but stupider and more evil.
Everything they have peoduced since 2008, if not earlier, is part of this.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It has been my experience that thing go the other way around. Usually people read the text (or programming script), see that it’s nonsense and ask, “Is this fucking AI? Cause I really hope no one is actually this stupid.”
And then they get annoyed that someone is cooking the planet using AI instead of their brain.
moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I agree, they should be more like me and use their brain to cook the planet
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If I’m seeing the word “AI” outside of academic research or shitposting, it’s almost certainly coming from a Techbro or techbro simp.
s@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
Branding something as “AI” just tells me that there probably wasn’t anybody critically examining the output to assess that it wasn’t 100% BS. If you’re using computer technology to scan bodies for possible early cancer symptoms, for example, then you should have a professional look over the computer’s results and you shouldn’t use the marketing terms that are used for churning out brainless media content.
Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Branding something as “AI” just tells me that there probably wasn’t anybody critically examining the output to assess that it wasn’t 100% BS.
I think those two ideas are completely unrelated. LLMs are indeed an application of AI, and whether someone assesses its output has nothing to do with what they call the tool. I mean, people can be selectively specific in the areas that matter, but it doesn’t mean they’re wrong or obtuse across the board.
ysjet@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Pretty sus how much pro-AI slop is suddenly on lemmy right as GPT5 is about to be launched.
Be less fucking obvious, you dipshits.
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
amazing example of the person described in the post!
notarobot@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I dont evento understand your point. His are both things related?
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Fuck ai and fuck ai simps.
RedStrider@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
i saw someone on masto mad about the new background removal thing added to kdenlive
i despise llms and image models for quite a number of reasons but just aaaaaaaaaaaaa
TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
that is absolutely the coolest thing I have seen in technology in years
Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 weeks ago
There definitely is a very real “AI derangement syndrome” kinda thing going around among some. It’s like…we can be opposed to the use of AI to take away people’s jobs while simultaneously dumbing down culture, without throwing out the ways it can actually be used by workers to improve their work output or the experience for them of doing the work. I’m not familiar with Kdenlive, but it sounds similar to Photoshop’s generative fill, and that’s a fantastic feature. Using AI to do a better version of what content-aware fill has done for over a decade. People who are opposed even to these uses need to pull their heads in, because they make it much harder to effectively oppose the real problems with AI.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
content-aware fill was even started as a fucking GIMP plugin of all things
Valmond@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Your comment makes sense IMO.
To make an enormous simplification, it’s like those who screamed “rape!” because someone had looked (in a wrong way) at them. It removes the credibility of real rape.
Sorry, it’s early and I couldn’t find a nicer analogy, I posted it anyways because it’s an important distinction IMO, “AI” isn’t burning the planet or taking your jobs, some saves your grandma from cancer, LLM and image generators does.
Also, and this is only what I think, Art is also used in this way, some person drawing a panda for some company is now an Artist. I mean maybe they are but that panda can be made by a image generator (if it can be done cheaply) and free up their creative potential to do other things.
And also, it’s not like someone has a plan how to make things better, it’s just “forbid it” (good luck with that) or being angry online.
The world is black and white for many people.
AA5B@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I have no idea what point you’re trying to get across but I just got back from shopping for a laptop for my college kid and pretty much all of them had a slop button
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If you are still looking frame.work I didn’t see any ai slop button on these.
AA5B@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I might consider that for myself, next time I need one, but the kid is not a techie. He needs something that just works, with anything he may encounter , for at least 4 years. Most damning of all he probably needs to be able to game, and is not interested in having to figure out extra steps
Liz@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Fucking love my Framework 16 and I’ll tell everyone every chance I get.
BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
They use AI to translate the website, which is great, but the German looks awful at times.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s awesome, back in my day, we had to spit in our homemade fleshlights to get the slop.
Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I’m really happy with my ASUS Zenbook 14 (16GB memory, 512GB SSD, Intel Core Ultra 7 255H), which I got for $700, in case you’re still looking for a recommendation. Absolutely worth it IMO, though I’m running Linux, so the Copilot key is mapped to the compose key.
AA5B@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Went with an Acer. Best keyboard, tiny screen borders for a fairly compact 16” screen, 32G, 2TB …. I forget which CPU, we looked at so many.
The big question is battery life, and we decided to risk it. For a claimed 9.5 hours battery life when new, will it still get through a realistic full day of classes for the next four years. Hopefully
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The pronouns of AI are typically “useless/drivel”
Little8Lost@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I am definetly guilty even tho i should start judging after knowing if its useful ai or gen ai
audaxdreik@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
I really don’t think there is any useful generative or general AI.
So a lot of the issue is how marketing got their slimy tentacles around the word, but most “useful” AI is domain specific, symbolic ML (machine learning). Even LLMs have their uses in very specific domains, but again, general usage is very questionable.
People are already somewhat familiar with ML, but that’s been kind of covered by the catch all term “algorithm”. What most people understand as “the” algorithm (YouTube, Twitter, whatever) isn’t a single algorithm, but a complex set of algorithms often at least partly compromised of some sort of ML.
All that to say, the general public really doesn’t need to know this stuff and the serious engineers couldn’t care less of our opinion of it. Fuck AI.
TheBat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Exactly. I don’t have problem with AI. I have problem with slop machines pretending to be AI.
Little8Lost@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There is ai used for enemys and video games and some for protein folding
Thats the ones i mean with useful
Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Outside of the privacy and environmental issues at this point AI isn’t a fleshed out product yet it’s being pushed into apps that don’t need it. I think AI development needs to continue, and the public needs to use it and apply it in was it likely wasn’t intended for but it needs to be opt in.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
AI Slop Eaters need to know their bullshit is unacceptable, Fuck AI.
Honytawk@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
In your opinion, how should AI be handled now that it is out of the box?
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Heavily regulated on the data it is trained on, respectful of copyright laws, with caps on electricity cost, and also explicitly banned for use in customer service, finances, infrastructure, engineering, research, medicine, legal practice, and sales.
Basically, anybody trying to turn a profit from such a shitty non-product should fuck off. I also reserve the right to tell AI Sloppers to fuck off in other contexts, because it has no use case.
kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
AI is like I dog shit on a sidewalk: I go out of my way to avoid it.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
So when this gets posted as a post it gets hundreds of upvotes but when I say the same thing as a lemmy comment I get hate?
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
The comparison is bunk though.
The awareness of systemic oppression is not equivalent to a technology that produces text and images of dubious provenance.
LwL@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
But conservatives reacting to the word “pronouns” isn’t at all about systemic oppression? It’s about the immediate brain off that follows to instantly rant about “woke” or whatever, even if e.g. someone mentioned pronouns in a grammar context. It’s a stupid reaction born from opposition to a perceived “woke mind virus” (or equivalent).
Similarly, some people read “AI” and immediately think whatever follows is worthless garbage. Which, even ignoring that not everything labeled AI is always ML, is a stupid reaction born from opposition to the LLM (and general genAI) hype.
Sure, the “woke mind virus” is pure delusion, and I, too, want to throw up from the genAI hype every time someone mentions “AI” or “ChatGPT”, but AI isn’t even well defined and even ML has plenty of useful applications.
It’s the same anti-intellectual “I hate the things I associate with this word so anyone not hating on the word is stupid” while disregarding what the word actually means in the given context.
supernight52@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes. Because one is posted as a joke, and one is an un-ironic “observation.” I’ll let you figure out which is which. Maybe go ask an AI if you have trouble figuring that one out.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 2 weeks ago
Chat gpt, give me a whitty response and tell me i’m smart.
Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
First of all the title implies this is a joke, secondly posts always get more upvotes than comments, some apps even auto like a post if you click on it to open the comments.
threads, comments, posts and etc all have completely different ecosystems.
LaggySnake@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I chat with ai whenever I don’t have a friend to chat with. (a lot)
Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 weeks ago
Oh. Well at least you have the comments sections for now, though who knows how long before thats talking to AI as well. Apparently facebook is that way.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Until we fundamentally invent a new algorithmic approach to ML then there will be no more progress made in the abilities of AI.
So it’s here and it’s finished for a long time. Now is when you make a judgment on the validity of a new tech.
And this tech has been all marketing and no substance besides the ML applications we have been using them for since the 90s.
svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
ITT: exactly what the tweet was about.
Y’all just saw “AI” and started frothing at the mouth about LLMs when, in the context of the tweet, it might just as well have referred to path finding AI in a video game.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Exactly, it’s downright comical how well OP called it.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Aren’t you OP? Also, people currently understand “AI” (a marketing term) as “LLMs” and audiovisual producing software. Had you mentioned it in the late 90s, it would’ve been more about “The Matrix” kind of sci-fi AI, for instance. Words and their context. You’re being purposely obtuse because people here wrote thoughtful comments disagreeing with the premise in the image you posted and you don’t like it as it makes you feel silly. Thats all.
stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Thanks commenter! That’s why I posted it. I knew this would happen.
Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
But tbf ‘AI’ in current public discourse and pop culture is (annoyingly) used synonymously with ‘LLM’ more often than not
burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
you could be talking about video game AI… but are you?
svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I wasn’t talking about AI at all, I was talking about people talking about AI.
AFAICT the OP was talking about vocaloid. …tumblr.com/…/some-of-yall-will-see-the-word-ai-a…
oppy1984@lemdro.id 2 weeks ago
Seriously, I don’t get the issue but I understand the phenomenon. It’s like painters when the camera was invented,
“cameras will put us out of work, cameras are lower quality, anyone with a camera can just take a picture!”
Painters are still around, painted art is still desired and expensive. It will be the same over time with AI, we just have to wait for people to get over it.
BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
xkcd.com/1289
Can be applied to any new technology. This comic was made before generative AI was a thing.