Private Jets MUST be outlawed
I'm doing my part!
Submitted 9 hours ago by balderdash9@lemmy.zip to [deleted]
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phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
The thing is just that its not that one woman, but hundreds of millions if not billions of people that follow trash separation rules.
This would actually have a pretty large effect, however sadly the recycling system is broken and often just a complete lie in many places in the world.pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
Isn’t it somewhere like only 1% off the recycling stuff actually getting recycled? The rest goes to some kind of landfill to a poor country that decides to take it. I saw this in some documentary
match@pawb.social 1 hour ago
about 21% of recyclables across the us: recyclingpartnership.org/residential-recycling-re…
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
For plastics, pretty much. The thing about plastic recycling is that it’s more expensive that making new plastic, and the recycled stuff is lower quality and unsuitable for many uses.
Metal.recycling, especially aluminum, makes economic sense and does better.
jaennaet@sopuli.xyz 4 hours ago
the recycling system is broken and often just a complete lie in many places in the world.
In many places in the world, or mainly the US? I keep seeing this claim repeated but usually any proof is just about the US
Gloomy@mander.xyz 3 hours ago
Krudler@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I’ve ranted in various places over the years but it’s 100% true in my city in Canada.
Decades ago we built a massive publicly-funded recycling system because the City could actually draw profit from the collection and sale of materials.
But about 15 years ago China stopped buying the waste, and it became a new shell-game of collecting the material but literally unable to do anything with it or sell it, so it any that gets does get sold mostly ends up in the down-stream recycling economy, where the bulk of it ends up being burned. The rest goes into the regular old landfill. Even waste cardboard has no value anymore.
People who separate recycling in our city now, are just pre-sorting it for the waste management company and keeping it out of their regular waste (profit) stream.
We do have our ewaste centers but knowing people that work there, I can say anecdotally I’ve been informed that the metal and rare metal waste is collected and sent for processing in Ontario, the rest of the bits (all the plastic which is 90% of eWaste) goes into the regular waste stream where it’s buried or burned, but never recycled.
Notice how Pepsi and Coke don’t use recycled plastic? If that doesn’t condemn the whole recycling “meme” as a sham, I don’t know what would.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 hours ago
I think a lot of first world countries like do it (e.g. the UK sends around 60% away), because recycling elsewhere is cheaper than doing it at home.
And it’s cheaper still if you don’t bother to check that it hasn’t just ended up in a landfill in Bangladesh or something.
I think also part of the issue is that plastic can be recycled, but not in the same way as metals or glass. That plastic bottle might get shredded and used in road surfacing (where it will doubtless leak micro plastics everywhere), which is probably not what most people envisage when they clean it up and separate it nicely.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
This is why I recycle.
But it still sucks to see so much work undone by a few greedy fucks.
Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
The latter half of your comment is why I dont even bother. The “recycling” here is picked up and dumped into the same truck, there is no separation facility, just a landfill/incinerator.
Im not paying extra to lie to myself.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
i lost faith in recycling the more I read about it.
especially when most recycling is sent to poor countries to be burned, and if it is actually recycled it is then shipped back again as a single use spoon, then sent back… all the way to less quality materials, and some uses are for fleece that produces a shit ton of microplastics.
real solutions is to ban single use plastics (maybe exceptions for medical uses).
onslaught545@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
We have separate trucks here, but I was behind the recycling truck one day and watched it pull into the landfill.
Siresly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 hours ago
It’s a fair observation and very agreeable when the intent is to focus deserved ire on the primary element responsible for the wretched state of the world. But this could also be used to absolve oneself of inaction, deny any personal responsibility, to justify exhibiting similar selfish behavior oneself, or to feel smug about demoralizing or shitting on people who seek to improve society somewhat.
As the meme itself implies, the exploitation class is the problem that needs to be addressed. No need for anyone else to catch strays.
ericatty@infosec.pub 7 hours ago
I don’t see it as a way to justify inaction. I see it as a way to be forgiving of myself if I mess up sometimes.
Example: in the worst of my grief, I threw away some recyclables because I just couldn’t wash them out properly. It took everything just to eat.
I didn’t pile guilt on myself over it. I recycle 99% of the time, I never litter. I have to check my pockets for random trash before doing laundry.
Utility companies, corporations, and rich people are not cleaning up after themselves and their inaction almost negates everything me and everyone I personally know can possibly do.
Knowing they are dumping faster than I can shovel doesn’t mean I stop shoveling. I still want and actively work to leave this place better than I found it.
Those 91 jets just mean I don’t feel overwhelming guilt when I fail. I just try to do better next time.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
Do you think they feel “overwhelming guilt” about those jets?
The idea is to blame you for all the plastic shit they have forced you to buy because you need to eat and wipe your ass and clean your floor.
They don’t care what bin you put that shit in. It all goes to the same place anyway since they have admitted recycling is a scam and has been for the last 40 years.
It’s like conserving water. In the 80s, when there were “droughts” in California, they told people not to flush their toilets. 98% of water is used by commercial agriculture. THEY should be more efficient about their water use. We are subsidizing them. And they export a ton of this shit. Like almonds. Which take a ton of aster to grow. (Spoiler alert on where they export that to…)
You ever see those public trash cans with like different holes for landfill and recycle, and then see underneath that it all goes into the same bag?
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Utility companies, corporations, and rich people are not cleaning up after themselves and their inaction
almostnegates everything me and everyone I personally know can possibly do.There’s no almost about it. On an individual level, anything you and I do to recycle is dwarfed by the callous usage of resources by corporations.
You and I are out here doing our best to recycle the cast majority of our plastic waste when one of the local factories throws away more than a month’s worth of your plastic refuse every shift when they throw away the plastic wrapping on just supply pallets. They may recycle the cardboard, but so much pallet shrink wrap would get thrown away at receiving and a shit ton more applied at shipping.
I fucking hated working for one of the local places and just watched all the plastic waste build up every shift.
tatterdemalion@programming.dev 1 hour ago
I think most of us understand that, and you’re just being obnoxious for pointing it out.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 7 hours ago
Well put. Don’t insult the person doing what they can.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 5 hours ago
instead, redirect them to better use their limited energy
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
It’s not attacking the girl or suggesting she should stop. She’s doing the right thing. It’s attacking the rich psychopaths ruining the environment is ways that are orders or magnitude greater than my life will ever do.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 hours ago
The problem is interpretation. You read it one way because of your life context and frame of mind. Many others will have a different interpretation.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
It really just highlights the growing injustice in the world and that our problems are growing too severe to solve them with personal responsibility. We need to make billionaires illegal or things with keep spiraling downwards.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 hours ago
We need collectively to be pinching pennies, but doing so when you cant pry yourself away from tge roulette wheel is nonsense.
Robin@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Eat the rich, but not with plastic cutlery!
jojo@piefed.social 6 hours ago
Even better: compost the rich!
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
Burn the rich so we don’t introduce prion diseases to the soil!
gilgameth@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Shit the rich
frog@feddit.uk 4 hours ago
How much plastic and silicone will go to the plants?
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
Eating them creates compost in the long run anyway, but with the added benefits of also providing protein to hungry poor people without the damage from factory farming livestock.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 5 hours ago
please don’t eat apex predators, they’re high in lead content and other toxins
Ougie@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Wait till you hear how much pollution the army creates when they decide to mobilize an entire camp for no reason
YaksDC@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
It may have changed now but when I was in the Navy in the late 80s we just tossed all our trash into the ocean twice a day. Everything: paint cans, medical waste, regular trash. It was disgusting
bigfondue@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Wow, I’m starting to think the military might be net negative on this earth.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
Navy just dumping jets in the ocean, like fuck it.
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Just the army
nthavoc@lemmy.today 5 hours ago
You know what’s also shitty about recycling? The companies that pick that bin in some areas throw it in another bin which gets shipped an “out of country” recycling company to make it someone else’s problem. In the shipping process, that plastic falls off into the ocean making a worse problem now than just throwing it into regular waste management. Also, the process to recycle is more toxic than just throwing it away because the companies use really old processes; like paper for example. I gave up recycling except for metals.
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 hours ago
Glass is good too AFAIK
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
In the US the majority of recycling isn’t.
PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Yeah this is largely a US problem. Not that some of this doesnt happen in other countries but at least in my part of Canada most of the recycling is sold to in-province companies. A few get exported to the states. A very small amount goes to Europe or Asia.
bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 8 hours ago
What’s the point here? Shitting on a good deed because someone else has done something bad? Arguing that small contributions don’t matter because others cancel that out? Great, now everbody feels entitled to shitty behaviour because they’re not the most rotten apple in the barrel. I’m sure many good things will come from that line of thought.
The rule is “Don’t be a jerk”, not “Don’t be a jerk if you’re the only one”
balderdash9@lemmy.zip 8 hours ago
The post is not an indictment of recycling per se. Rather, it points to the absurdity of promoting individual contributions while ignoring the carbon footprint of corporations and the obscenely wealthy.
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
More like, we have to be perfect but billionaires get to be unethical.
LoreleiSankTheShip@lemmy.ml 8 hours ago
Even if most every day people would lower their carbon footprint as much as possible, corporations would simply say “Neat, we can pollute more, we’re within target emissions”, and they would
Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
Microsoft is literally buying and pumping shit in the ground to offset carbon produced by their useless AI. It’s ridiculous
InputZero@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Bingo! Well said.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
They do say that already, since that is how carbon credits work.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 hours ago
So, this ‘personal responsibility’ recycling thing was pushed by corporations to excuse their wasteful bullshit.
Except it really is bad enough we need to be pinching fucking pennies ecologically. So we should be doing stuff like this (and actually recycling things rather than just dumping them, as happens now)
But noje of that matters while billionaires are fucking around; you’re just ordering cheap drinks at the craps table so maybe you can play a few more rounds. Your gains will be harvested to fuel the degenerate tendencies of the wealthy. They would matter in another world, but don’t in this one.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
if I told you jumping jacks would save the world would you do it? if what she’s doing is exactly as effective as jumping jacks, should she be eating her time, or finding a method that is effective?
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
the point of these memes is to normalize that line of thought, i would not be the least surprised if they originate from the fossil fuel industry.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 6 hours ago
🚨 reduction in single use plastic and reduction in co2 emissions are two SEPARATE goals not one 🚨
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
how hard is it to recycle, seriously? the way people complain about it you’d think it causes rashes…
hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
In the US it’s nearly impossible since the pandemic. Most waste collection firms are dumping both cans in the same truck and not recycling anything. Plastic recycling in particular turned out to be much more expensive than waste management was prepared to keep doing so they stopped.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Got a source on that “most”? The ones around here DEFINITELY don’t do that.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 hours ago
notice how you’re immediately moving the goalposts: you’re not talking about an individual separating packaging, you’re talking about the industrial process.
Philharmonic3@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Welcome to dystopia. Time to choom it up or die trying.
then_three_more@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Surely it’s fraud. They say they’re going to recycle (presumably charge whoever they charge based on that too) then just dump it.
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 46 minutes ago
Slightly off topic, but I find it goddamn funny that someone like MrBeast made a bootleg copy of squid game on his YouTube channel, considering the entire point of the programme was to show that billionaires will do whatever evil they please and get away without any single negative consequence. Not that the premise was too subtle, considering that the villains use humans as literal footrests. How someone can be this tone deaf or uncaring is beyond my understanding.