You would hate me - I’ve always eaten whatever I want and somehow stay trim automatically. My wife eats a burger and gains 5 lbs.
Oh lord yes
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LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Rooster326@programming.dev 9 hours ago
I hate the game not the player
agent_nycto@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I saw a response to this which explained that it was probably in part to the Irish potato famine, where people were being genocided with starvation so the people who survived more were ones that were more inclined to store fat
dismay3915@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
It’s impossible to work out properly and not get stronger, healthier, better looking, more muscle, less fat, better skin etc. Just keep at it.
Psythik@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Losing weight from exercise alone is a fool’s errand. You can’t outrun your diet.
The secret to weight loss is to consume fewer calories than you burn. Install a calorie counting app and log everything you eat for at least a week straight to get a good idea of how much you’re eating compared to how much you need, and then adjust accordingly. When done correctly, you can expect to lose 1-2lbs per week.
Canconda@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
Also weigh your portions. Most people under count their calories because they use the default serving size instead of what they’re actually eating.
Corngood@lemmy.ml 7 hours ago
This helped me with the cost/benefit of eating (i.e. actually knowing the cost). I can cut down the rice serving and have a beer or some ice cream, rather than cutting those things out arbitrarily because they seem unhealthy.
Banana@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
As someone with a binge eating disorder (grew up playing hockey on 2 teams in highschool as well as reffing - literally on the ice every night - did not have to worry about my diet until my adulthood), 100% agree. Calorie counting in conjunction with increased cardio and weight lifting is the only thing that has worked for me
Of course, people with a tendency to develop anorexia or purging eating disorders should probably stay away from calorie counting as that can trigger dangerous disordered eating. Very important to know what works for you personally.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Gonna find a way to use “plump as a partridge” in conversation.
ordellrb@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
And when i eat more than necessary: it goes straight into the Brain and gets converted to additional worry’s and Fears. Thanks Brain
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
I just fast through sheer fucken willpower, because nothing can overrule my Scottish descended stubbornness. Also the autism certainly helps. Problem is that I sleep deprive and fast frequently enough that I struggle to define hunger and sleep.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
mmmyeah, thats not how weight works in this megamachine’s metabolic furnace. if your intake is not immediately consumed in that furnace upon ingestion, what isnt burned morphs straight to fat aka adipose. note the name ADipose. not SUBTRACTipose. adipose absolutely loves to hold onto everything it gets so you have to work harder than is sane get it to burn
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 14 hours ago
Takes mass to move mass.
VelvetPinkOtter123@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
This violates the laws of physics
Mass is energy. If you eat less and move more but still maintain or gain mass you are a free energy machine and a violation of the laws that govern the universe
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 hours ago
The last part of their sentence is about how their body goes into survival mode and tricks their brain into eating more in order to put on extra weight without them realizing it by delaying the feeling of being full longer than normal.
So burn 10% more calories but eat 25% more without realizing it and be worse off than before you started.
echodot@feddit.uk 14 hours ago
Who said anything about eating less? Exercise is very good for many things including keeping fit, and some people say it helps with their mood although I can’t attest to that personally, but to be honest if you’re doing it to lose weight you’re better off just dieting (the right kind of diet, not just these fad ones that don’t work and just leave you hungry all the time).
I can eat one kit kat finger and basically waste an entire 60 minute workout session.
HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
I can eat one kit kat finger and basically waste an entire 60 minute workout session.
Well that just tells me exercise is futile.
VelvetPinkOtter123@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
You could very well be right. Depending on your weight, athleticism, and how much you move, it could take an hour to burn off a Kit-Kat bars worth of calories, that’s pretty normal
Someone more athletic can get more movement in during that hour so they could burn off that Kit-Kat faster
Where someone less athletic probably gets less motion in during that same hour so it would take them longer, the entire hour or more, to burn off that same Kit-Kat
But moving more an eating less grantees you will lose weight because the laws of physics will not allow you to spend more energy than you take in and still keep or produce more mass
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
As one of the lucky few, yeah it’s awesome. My body basically says “oh you wanted that energy as muscle? You got it boss”
DupaCycki@lemmy.world 19 hours ago I feel like the number of people blaming genes for their unsuccessful weight loss attempts is far greater than the number of people who really do have bad genes for weight loss.
Or it might just be my personal experience with knowing people who failed to lose weight. Maybe not reflective of anything. I’ve heard this opinion may times before, but quite often it felt disingenuous.
Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
it’s almost always the amount of trash they eat.
breads, sugar ‘coffee’, sugar food, cereals… it’s all empty carbs. almost always… just watch people eating, you’ll notice a trent that a LOT of people eat nonstop trash
jj4211@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
I think it’s more about people thinking exercise is a pretty good tool for weight loss. It really isn’t, though it’s a really good idea for health broadly, but weight loss is not that significant with activity, at least to get from the low end of obesity to healthy weight.
Managing what you eat and how much you eat is pretty unavoidable if you want to manage weight, but people keep thinking a few minutes on a treadmill should take care of it.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
There actually is one excersize routine that one can do that will completely ignore/offset your diet. Competitive swimming. There is an issue. If you eat empty calories, you feel and perform like shit. Yeah, at my peak I was eating 20,000 Kcal a day, but there was no processed sugar, no bleached flour, no soda, no dyes, you basically had to make everything from scratch.
IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf 17 hours ago
How does that work though? Is there some genetic situation where consuming fewer calories than you burn doesn’t lead to weight loss?
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 hours ago
A lot of calorie expenditure is determined by hormones, and for a typical person, resting metabolism is a significant percentage of total calorie burn.
Some people respond poorly to dietary interventions because they end up with lower resting metabolic rate. Sometimes it shows up in the form of a person who is always feeling cold or exhausted.
Others have high stress hormones, which throw all sorts of metabolic loops out of wack.
And other hormones affect appetite or satiety after eating, so the biological disadvantage (whether genetic or environmental or both) sometimes comes in the form of greater difficulty with portion control or willpower compared to others. That’s not a direct effect on calories in versus calories out, but it does have an indirect effect on overall success with a weight loss program, and it’s grounded in an actual physical/physiological/biological difference between individuals.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
Nope. It’s usually people, like in this thread, not understanding what “bad genes” means.
You’re a thermodynamic machine, not magic. If you eat less then you burn you’ll loose weight.
You are also an extremely complicated machine, with complex chemical processes that govern long and short term behaviors.
“You” are a little slice of protein and fat the size of an avocado glued to the front of a more complicated machine. “You” are responsible for solving problems. The rest of your brain and endocrine system is responsible for managing most desires as well as most other things.Some people have genetics where they run a mile and their body says “oh shit, this would be easier if I turned the energy fountain up to full wouldn’t it?” And now they’re burning more energy when they’re asleep than they were before.
Other people have genetics that gives them a body that says “oh my God, you just ran nearly 2 blocks. Clearly you’re in danger, so I’m going to increase the hormones that tell you to eat a lot more food. Don’t worry, the pizza will be gone before you actually feel how much food that is”.You can override the endocrine system, but it’s hard. The frontal cortex can change what you do, but the endocrine can change what you want.
Your body is a machine, just like a car. And different cars will start to ding and nag the driver for fuel or maintenance tasks at different points, with different levels of intensity. If your car is built for the Australian outback it might be way more aggressive about fuel warnings, and have a significantly larger tank.
All that’s why excercise is a terrible way to lose weight. You lose weight by getting your eating under control and convincing the medieval peasant in your endocrine system that you’re not in a famine. Excercise makes your body feel better, more capable, and healthier.
You can excercise all you want, but you can eat your way through any excercise routine in minutes.
A peanut butter and jelly sandwich is more than an hour of vigorous time on a rowing machine.
baronvonj@piefed.social 17 hours ago Our bodies each have an equilibrium of calories consumed/burned that it really wants to be maintained. If you start dieting to reduce calories consumed, then it automatically adjusts so that your body burns fewer calories just for existing, thereby reducing the deficit you created with your diet. So people see the diet not working and give up rather than taking the time to dial in a sustainable dietary calorie deficit that allows for weight loss without leaving you physically and mentally exhausted by your bodies compensatory reaction.
Soapbox@lemmy.zip 17 hours ago
It does seem to be a thing. Just not as common as some people want it to be.
Digit@lemmy.wtf 20 hours ago
[(Don’t mind me. Just having some fun with this.)]
Hrmm… so that has me wonder what in my circumstances in my ancestors past left the evolutionary imprint on my genetic expression where I cannot gain weight and struggle with appetite.
… Though as I entertain the idea, I still suspect it more a contemporary environmental poisoning. Some chemical/physical/emotional stressor, this life, more than prior.
Certainly seems more tractionable, to focus on now, than give up, leaning on some excuse from before born. We play the hand we’re dealt.
And best look at what’s on the table. A lot of industry injecting gluttony-inspiring chemical agents in their junk (that they try trick us into believing it’s food, by simply calling it food). It’s same as in for-profit medicine. Like Hippocrates is reported to have said, let food be your medicine, and your medicine shall be your food. For-profit says “a patient cured is a customer lost”. So any food with health claims on its advertising and packaging, quite likely have a poison seed to perpetuate the problem you’re trying to resolve, especially if there’s a corporation behind them, with stock holders and investors to satisfy with increasing profits, and are not allowed to not do anything that would increase profits (~ that’s a fun law the corporation bought for itself… ahem, to protect the shareholders, of course).
But hey, maybe they care. /s
So since the corporation cares, it must be us. Nothing to do with them. Since our efforts (as advised by the corporation) are failing, it must be something else. Blame great great grandma. Couldn’t possibly be the corporation. ;)
[(Don’t mind me. Just having some fun with this.)]
jaybone@lemmy.zip 21 hours ago
Lot of negativity in this thread.
Ravenheart@lemmy.zip 21 hours ago
Nuh-uh!
spacegoat@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Can we not post the entire library of Reddit memes
Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 22 hours ago OP automates their posting on this platform… they have a lot of dumb content that they blanket Lemmy with because quantity > quality to them. I’m probably going to block the account soon because it’s really annoying.
Zephorah@discuss.online 1 day ago
There’s psychology in play here. For some people food is the only pleasure they get in their otherwise miserable existence. Genetically, some people get a greater pleasure “hit” from food than others, some of whom, on the extreme, treat food as this thing they have to do now and then in order to keep living.
Fixing this hedonistic approach to food means modifying their life to contain something else to replace this form of pleasure. If they can get their “hits” elsewhere, food consumption can then fall off.
Worse, in addiction scenarios, there’s no going cold turkey on food.
The resolution could be finding success in some pursuit. A relationship with someone awesome. Pleasure replacement can take many forms.
As is, for those who get a pleasure “hit” from food, there is minimal restricted access.
njm1314@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Hey denizens of Lemmy let me explain something to you. This years old meme is not asking for weight loss advice from any of you. Just laugh and move on. Resist the urge to give advice that nobody asked for.
LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Maybe she is eating too many carbs..
Fleur_@aussie.zone 23 hours ago
To everyone who didn’t move on, welcome to the trenches. and fuck you
TheparishofChigwell@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I didn’t ask you for advice!
/S
mech@feddit.org 1 day ago
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Somebody went for a waddle around the neighbourhood three times and expected to drop 5kg as a result.
LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I hate waddling people, I know everything about people by the way they walk.
Donkter@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
For instance, I can tell by the way they walk they’re a woman’s man, no time for talk.
FatVegan@leminal.space 23 hours ago
It’s my DNA’s fault
jaybone@lemmy.zip 21 hours ago
Username checks.
schnokobaer@feddit.org 1 day ago
Fwiw nobody loses weight through exercise anyway. You can only lose weight by consuming less than you burn. You burn more when you exercise, yeah, but you still have to resist just eating that bit more to cover the extra expense. Your basal metabolic rate increases when you build up more muscle mass, yeah, but yet again that doesn’t mean that your appetite will be the same as before, you’re still going to have to have the will power to eat less than you’d maybe want. Conditioning yourself to stop eating before you’re absolutely full, training to manage living with a bit of an appetite without having a snack, and learning your way around food that is more filling through fibres, protein, and complex carbs like starch is literally the only sustainable path to losing weight.
That being said you should exercise either way. It’s more important than losing weight for the vast majority of unfit people anyway.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
Fwiw nobody loses weight through exercise anyway.
If you want some depressing stats: walking around a soccer field burns 2 entire peanut M&Ms. Not 2 bags, 2 individual candies.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Is Scottish the first one people go to for European peasant?
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
No, but being at war with the English is a pretty universal experience.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 22 hours ago
Even the English, good old civil wars!
But what European country with a long history hasn’t been at war with at least a few neighbours?
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 1 day ago
I feel SO represented, and I’m German.
Rothe@piefed.social 1 day ago
For Anglocentric Americans yeah, either Scottish or Irish.
k0e3@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
It could just be OOP’s ancestry.
Nangijala@feddit.dk 1 day ago
This screams: I ran on the treadmill for an hour and I deserve a snack. Said snack is energy bars or something like that.
I know, because that’s how I used to think. Went to a dietist and her words were: Exercise is for toning, eating is for weightloss.
Yeah, you burn calories and you lose weight if you exercise a lot, but let’s be real, most of us aren’t exercising a lot. Going to the gym for an hour isn’t the same as doing athlete sports or manual labor.
That’s why, if we want to lose weight, we have to look at portion control, lean protein, cut down on starch and eating a lot of greens.
You can still eat a lot while losing weight, but most people aren’t going to eat the right things and that’s the issue. I was told that energy bars, crackers and anything bread-related outside of rye bread, was a weightloss killer.
It doesn’t mean you can never ever have bread again, but if your aim is to lose weight, you’re not gonna get very far if you snack on bread and crackers. If you snack on vegetables, however, you’ll be able to eat A LOT.
There are always things you can do to adjust your diet so that you will lose weight, but if you don’t know anything about what different types of food actually does to your body, you may think you’re doing the right thing by eating ten bananas a day, but the scales don’t move because you ate frigging ten bananas a day!
Doesn’t mean you can never eat bananas or squash or fatty fish ever again, but while losing weight, you’re supposed get less calories than what you need to sustain your weight. It helps reading into it and getting a basic idea of what, how and where. I didn’t know shit before I had a professional helping me. I’m still no expert and my weight still goes up and down during different seasons of my life, but I know why and I know how to fix it when I get the motivation. Losing weight is very, very, very easy once you make up your mind to do it and have a basic understanding of what food does to the body.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
Losing weight is very, very, very easy once you make up your mind to do it and have a basic understanding of what food does to the body.
No, losing weight is very very SIMPLE.
But a lot of people, like me when I was obese, don’t struggle with knowing what to eat. We struggle with our brain, with satiety, with binging. With failing and comforting ourselves with food and failing more. With controlling food as a means of controlling our lives. With not taking ownership of our problems.
It’s not easy at all. It’s really fucking hard. But at least it’s not complicated.
Nangijala@feddit.dk 22 hours ago
I’m not a stranger to having those problems, but if you read what I said, you’d also know that I said that once you make up your mind and have the knowledge necessary to make the choices that leads to weightloss, it is very very very easy.
That hard part is breaking out of the cycle and establishing a healthier habit. Once you’re on that track, losing weight is easy.
But if you don’t have the motivation and/or the right mindset, it will not happen, and there can be a myriad of reasons as to why that is. Life circumstances, mental health and such. I myself have dealt with a lot of blows in my life recently that has caused me to gain weight and I’m going to lose the weight when I go on break and finally get some time away from the stress. And after that, it’s gonna be pretty easy to keep going.
But losing weight is easy. I will always stand by that.
valgarf@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Losing weight is very, very, very easy once you make up your mind to do it and have a basic understanding of what food does to the body.
Nice if that is so easy for you. Let me tell you how that feels for me: As soon as my body does not get its usual amount of calories, it replies with relentless hunger. The kind that burns in your stomach and distracts you from everything else. The only thing my brain wants to think about is how to get more food and how tasty it would be. If I don’t give in, I go into energy save mode: I feel exhausted, my body does not want to move or do anything that could cost it valuable calories.
For a lot of people losing weight is not easy. You could also tell a smoker that it is easy to quit smoking, just don’t pick up a cigarette anymore.
This is why things like ozempic are used despite it’s side effect. It gives you time to get in the habit of a healthy diet without the brutal hunger and hopefully your body accepts that diet when you reduce the dosage.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
I’d you’re open to advice: calories aren’t what makes you feel full. Mass makes you feel full (a bit over simplified, but not completely wrong), so what you need to do is eat stuff, and I ate SO many carrots and cucumbers when I was trying to feel more full without more calories.
I absolutely hate raw carrots now, but eh, small price to pay.
For a lot of people losing weight is not easy. You could also tell a smoker that it is easy to quit smoking, just don’t pick up a cigarette anymore.
Yeah, except then you die. So actually DO keep smoking, but limit yourself to 3x a quarter of a cigarette per day. Easy, right?
Fleur_@aussie.zone 1 day ago
Listen guys. Nobody’s genetics letting them escape thermodynamics. Eat less do more. You have enough energy on your body to not eat multiple days in a row.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago Well, kinda.
The problem is that it isn’t a 1:1 thing.
Hormones, insulin sensitivity, neurotransmitters, gut biome, muscle mass, brain activity, there’s a shit ton of factors that go into exactly what that break point is. Worse, that break point isn’t even 100% stable. People like to think it is, but it isn’t it can change as often as daily, and at the lower end of that point, a deficit is extremely difficult for patients to maintain healthily.
And yes, it is sometimes less healthy to eat less than it is to carry some extra fat. It’s not like vitamin supplementation is ideal, even when you know for a fact that what they’re swallowing is mostly bioavailable.
And, frankly, that bullshit of “enough energy on your body to not eat…” is utter bullshit. Starvation does jack shit for a bariatric patient, period. No, the energy burned absolutely is not enough to maintain a healthy body and metabolism for days. I don’t know where people got that idea, but it is malarkey.
I strongly urge people to go and consult with a specialist if they’re having trouble reducing their body fat. It is not wise to believe the random internet stupidity that can’t be bothered to stay up to date on a subject before prattling on. Fuck, I haven’t even worked in two decades, and I’m more up to date than random assholes, and I know I’m behind current bleeding edge in that specific field.
Fuck, I swear, people’s blind fucking cruelty trying to feel superior is disgusting. Fucking h lf assed sound bite garbage.
Thermodynamics my hairy asshole. People aren’t fucking furnaces, they aren’t a closed system.
AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social 22 hours ago
You can’t convince some people. Just look at people with thyroid issues. Their diet and exercise level can remain the same and yet once the illness starts affecting their bodies, they start gaining weight. There’s a reason support groups are full of people asking how to lose this suddenly gained weight.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
The statement “Weightloss is calories in, calories out” is rather like “running a marathon is just running 100 meters and repeating it 420 more times”. It’s entirely true, but it’s reductive beyond uselessness. Yes, if you burn more calories than you eat, you will always lose weight. And if you run 421, 100m stretches you’ve done a marathon. And both of those pieces of advice are completely useless to anyone trying to do it, and they can possibly even make things worse.
Managing satiety, breaking patterns, learning recipes that work for you, finding comfort without food, learning to say no to your immediate friends and family, dealing with binging, rewarding yourself without food, and many maaaaany other things are the tools people need to lose weight.
Calorie counting is useful and foundational, but you like my therapist used to say: “you can’t live in a foundation”. But, without a good foundation, you can’t build a house either. If you switch your 5000 calorie fastfood diet for 5000 calories of fruit and vegetables, you’re not going to lose weight.
Fleur_@aussie.zone 1 day ago
Right… Well guess I’m actually dead right now since I haven’t eaten in a couple days.
TheFrirish@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 day ago That’s such a large amount of excuses that you sound like an American.
nialv7@lemmy.world 1 day ago
genetics determines how much nutrients you absorb from things you eat, it determines how easily you feel hunger, it determines your baseline energy consumption.
genetics can absolutely make you more likely to gain weight.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 hours ago Yeah this “thermodynamics” thing is so stupid, there’s enough energy in a sugar cube to power my home for months.
I also probably have the genetics to “keep warm” which helps if you want to lose weight, and as a male I don’t get the hormonal changes at a certain age that makes you gain weight, etc. etc. etc.
Then we have those who just expertly state “eat less”, yeah man who would have thought eh.
On a more reasonable scale, things like ditching sugar (including fruit, corn, cooked carrots etc) make wonders, probably because dropping that addiction (which is hard) makes it easier to eat less.
Sport in itself cannot outrun the spoon,but it might fire up desires to be in good shape, and lose weight might be part of that, and that’s really something, IMO.
Good luck with your long term goals everyone!
LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I think it’s a lot of conditioning around eating. What you write is a factor but behavior is an easy thing to fix.
There are terribly fat parents who teach their kids how to be terrible fat by example. Our DNA did not change to ultra fat mode since the 1950s.
sudo@lemmy.today 1 day ago Feeling hunger is completely different than needing nutrients and energy.
Fleur_@aussie.zone 1 day ago
Yes and regardless of any of those factors if your energy intake is below your energy usage you’re guaranteed to lose weight.
That’s because exercise doesn’t help much with weight loss, it makes you stronger. If you want to lose weight get a diet, nothing crazy tho, just make sure you’re eating the essentials and that you’re eating less calories than your daily need, there are calculators online to find out your daily calories need.