Canconda

So to do an accurate property value assesment (what you’re doing) you’d need to provide at least 5 examples from each of those regions, only including comparable properties.

I’m not saying solar doesn’t improve property value.

I’m saying you cannot take one example and apply it to an entire market. Which you just did x6.

The part your missing is why it’s illegal. Canadian electric code requires everything to go through the breaker box so that electricians can know there is no current in the building.

So even if the rules are changed this introduces installation costs that could be prohibitive.

A safety stamp that says these systems are good to go

Of which there are current zero devices registered for legal sale in Canada, because of the code issues prescribed above.

It’s safe, it’s proven, and it works everywhere it’s allowed.

The problem is that plug in balcony solar is not considered safe according to our electrical code.

Legalizing it would mean aligning it with the electrical code and running it through the breaker box which introduces prohibitive installation costs. It’s a safety issue, not just politics.

conservative realtors

Again respectfully, you are applying reasoning to real estate that simply does play out that way. Look up the first 3 rules of real estate. There is no substance for me to refute what you are saying because it is fundamentally anecdotal conjecture.

people aren’t stupid. If it makes economic sense

I gotta walk away from this convo bro. The biggest flaw with economic theory in general is that it assumes people make rational decisions.

in the end they will save money compared to a house without solar.

I’m not saying they won’t. I’m saying that the context where that happens doesn’t align with many peoples financial objectives and local real estate markets.

Certainly. I’m one of them.

I’m not saying solar isn’t viable. Just using my experience in mortgage financing to add more context to the conversation.

Respectfully, you are trying to generalize real estate based on your local market. That simply doesn’t work. See my other comment on balcony solar for a clear example. Your 4th point is pure speculation with no argument backing it.

I’m not saying solar isn’t viable. Just using my experience in mortgage financing to add more context to the conversation.

So the challenge with those is that they’re not legal in many places. In Canada our electric code requires everything be connected to the breaker box so that electricians can work safely knowing there is no current in the building.

Strata’s also often require panels on railings be mounted flush, facing sideways instead of angled upwards.

On that note, given where most balcony solar would be installed; changing bylaws to allow balcony shades and air drying launder would arguably reduce our energy costs significantly more than what energy solar panels on railings could harvest.

Some thoughts from a solar fan boy who knows more about finance than electronics.

1. The average time to pay off solar panels (7-12 years) is still longer than the average time most first time home owners (at least before 2015). So it’s still not as viable an option for a lot of people for people who plan on selling within 10 years.

2. There is less home ownership overall. More of us are renting and there is no incentive for these installs.

3. If these systems could be reasonably relocated and reinstalled, that would probably shift the financial equation drastically.

4. How close are we to solar breakthroughs in materials/production that might incentivize waiting?

Jokes aside:

Instead of boiling that water to run a turbine perhaps we could use a Thermal Electric Generator to extract energy without said turbine and everything that comes with it.

The talent is all there.

Apparently that’s the biggest problem with the new halo mmo or whatever they’re cooking up. All the talent that actually made these games possible was laid off and isn’t part of the company.

A gaming union just might be able to get the band back together.

Push for municipal programs. See if you can rope in funding from e-waste management. There’s also a potential education aspect, so maybe funding from there.

I get what you’re saying but you’re losing the thread by framing it the way you are. Cuz there’s quite a few layers between animals and fascism and Lord of the flies barely encompasses one.

I read your argument as “People should not blindly expect someone is going to save us from fascism.” Which I agree with.

But IMO the rest of your philosophical argument is besides the point and distracting to the audience.