You might lose weight just not in the region where you want it. Genetics might make you lose muscle mass, bone quality long before you lose fat. Also it might make you at the same time store everything as fat when you take an energy defecit diet.
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Fleur_@aussie.zone 2 months agoYes and regardless of any of those factors if your energy intake is below your energy usage you’re guaranteed to lose weight.
reddit_sux@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Fleur_@aussie.zone 2 months ago
Muscle mass is directly tied to how much you use the muscle. You can eat 100 protein bars and you won’t gain any muscle mass. Likewise if you continue your current level of exercise while fasting you are gonna keep the muscle and lose the fat.
djdarren@piefed.social 2 months ago Our bodies have evolved to protect against weight loss. We like to think we’re modern, enlightened creatures, but we’re still a collection of biological processes that are centred around survival in an unforgiving world. Most of us no longer live in that world.
As a result, when we diet our bodies trigger processes that limit the effects of nutritional deficit. And sure, we’ll lose weight to start with, but that hits a plateau surprisingly quickly as our metabolism catches up.
Then add into that things like ADHD (which is something affects me personally), whereby when weight loss slows to a crawl after a few weeks I get frustrated and lose interest in keeping it up. So I’m 140kg with no sign of that going anywhere any time soon.
Nora@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
The metabolic effect you’re describing is called “starvation mode” by a lot of people and while its technically real its actually quite a bit smaller than most people think, and can easily be countered by adding a work out to your routine. If you think youre not losing weight because of it, (or gaining weight, as some people claim) I would bet you’re actually not counting all your calories throughout the day.
Fleur_@aussie.zone 2 months ago
This is textbook cope. “I won’t do the thing because it’s technically not the most 100% efficient way so imma be 140 forever” I’ve got ADHD too bud. It’s possible to fast for 3 days a week.
Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Youre so mean
- djdarren@piefed.social 2 months ago
It’s not cope, it’s biology.
Fleur_@aussie.zone 2 months ago
Yes… biology you are using as an excuse to not do something, hence cope.
Jesus_666@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Unfortunately people respond differently to hunger.
Someone I know is trying to lose weight. Problem is, if they go ~100 kcal below maintenance they turn into a stress eater. ~200 below and they are unable to stop themselves from eating 400 kcal worth of food straight or of the fridge at night. All that on top of being hangry all day.
So losing weight means balancing the diet very carefully because that’s not much space between eating enough to maintain the weight and eating so little that hunger overrides reason and overcompensates.
For other people going below maintenance is just kinda uncomfortable but easily doable for a couple days. Advice like “just eat less” actually works for them without having to make a whole science out of it.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s true. I remember when I could go most of the day without eating and feel nothing but minor hunger, which was easy to ignore.
But now I’m in my 30s, and if I try to skip lunch it’s like my entire body goes into revolt. Lethargy, headaches, mood changes, the works. My metabolism has changed with age and now the effects of blood sugar actually pack a punch.
Fleur_@aussie.zone 2 months ago
Yeah but that is how you lose weight. It’s one thing to be unwilling to do it because of a mental block. It’s another thing entirely to impart that mental block on others as a way of feeling better about their own shortcomings.
teslekova@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
It’s quite important that you do not make the mistake of thinking that if you tell someone it is easy to do, because you find it easy to do, that does not make it easy for them to do.
With a kid, for example, you can tell them this and they will believe that it’s easy for everyone, then try it and fail, and suddenly believe they are fucking stupid and it must be their fault entirely. Which makes them feel bad. Which might make them eat more, or become anorexic, or any one of a number of eating disorders.
So instead, realise that there are many factors here beyond energy in and activity out. Those are important, but not the whole story. Be kind, and take your time.
Fleur_@aussie.zone 2 months ago
Yeah and I haven’t said it was easy I just said it’s how you do it
Jiral@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No s"t Sherlock. Doesn’t really change the fact that this is much easier to achieve than for others, before we are even talkkng about will power. Some people can eat much more at the same workout level as others, without gaining weight. No contradiction with thermodynamics needed.
Fleur_@aussie.zone 2 months ago
By all means keep spreading the doomer mentality of “I can’t do anything to lose weight it’s my genetics”
Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
I was such an asshole after I dropped 100 pounds in my 20s. I did it, you can too!
I was such a dick. I had actual anger towards fat folks for a few years.
Its like being mad folks are poor, just, knock it off. None of these comments actually help people lose weight. It actually scares them off further into the downward spiral. Lest not forget age gets us all, and you dont know what these people have been through, or are going through. You dont know.
My country, the shit stain one, they dont allow citizens to walk anywhere. Start there. I stayed fit when I could walk/bike places. Once I moved somewhere carcentric, guess what happened. Im not a dick to fat folks anymore.
Its not so black and white. The older I get, the more I realize its systemic, at least here in the god forsaken states.
remain positive, internal work is internal, and you cant make choicss for others. I wanted to give fitness to everyone when I was younger. But not everyone is brave enough to ride a bike in car city. I still get mad when I see parents giving their fat children candy. Sets them up for a lifetine of failure. I used to have my gaurdian lock me in a room, call me fat bitch, and literally throw a bag of mcdonalds at me in my teens.
you never know what someone has been through. Always kindness.
Jiral@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Strawman. I was saying no such thing.
Fleur_@aussie.zone 2 months ago
Not understanding what you’re saying doesn’t mean I’m making a straw man argument lol
teslekova@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Well, one of the factors makes it hard to know what your actual caloric intake is. You are right, but it’s not quite as simple as you make it sound.
Simple does not mean easy.