What the fuck is the other 70%'s problem?
Usage Of Elon Musk’s X Dropped 30% In The Last Year, Study Suggests
Submitted 8 months ago by Hubi@feddit.de to technology@lemmy.world
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grue@lemmy.world 8 months ago
linearchaos@lemmy.world 8 months ago
He kept the 70% he wanted, it’ll be a propaganda engine and communications platform for the right wing.
selokichtli@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Whatever wing willing to pay, hondatky.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I have a lot of friends that won’t quit because of sports updates and all the shitposts
hansl@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This is in addition to the first year of losses, which are likely higher.
Dagnet@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Sunken cost fallacy
phoneymouse@lemmy.world 8 months ago
There are a lot of quasi-celebrity types with a big following that don’t want to give up their follower base.
Emmy@lemmy.nz 8 months ago
I’ll bet it’s more than 30% left but bots backfilled the space.
TheBat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
My problem is that I never had a Twitter account to stop using it lmao.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
How much did human usage drop? Because there are a shitload more bots on twitter nowadays than there were in the years before he took over.
muelltonne@feddit.de 8 months ago
This should be human usage - the user survey was done by phone.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Ah, ok, 27% -> 19%, an 8% YoY drop, and the numbers were obtained using identical methodologies across multiple years. Yeah, I agree, seems to check out.
Still, there are definitely a shitload more bots than there were before.
pdxfed@lemmy.world 8 months ago
tsonfeir@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Any time something gets too big it gets bots. Lemmy will be the same. We will see instances getting un-federated who cannot manage the spam.
Fuck Elon though
GreatDong3000@lemm.ee 8 months ago
If peoole sets up their own instances with 100% LLM bots how would we even know they are bots to defederate? The AIs are too realistic. Only giveaway would be the ones dumb enough to make accounts post/comment 24/7 with seconds between each comment.
psmgx@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Any time something gets too big it gets bots
Dead internet theory, summed up in a sentence
Hypx@fedia.io 8 months ago
I suspect even more than 30%, and by a lot. Nearly all of the communities that once thrived seem to be dead. It feels very empty.
Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Wasn’t like one of his focuses going to be getting rid of bots? Did they just not do anything and the bots just invaded or did the bots just get better?
Jesusaurus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
He got rid of like 80% of the staff. I doubt he has a functional team who can even tackle the problem.
WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I think the focus on bots was primarily used in an attempt to back out of the deal. It was never an issue, especially if it inflated his ego by pumping up his account.
Mereo@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Ever since Musk’s control of the company, Twitter (I refused to call it X) showed me multiple hate and racists posts. Basically, Twitter is showing me garbage. I now use Mastadon instead.
WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I was never active in terms of posting but I followed several news outlets, local government agencies, and a few friends. Shortly after Musk took over I saw nothing but right wing nutjobs and a lot of posts from Musk. I tried unfollowing but nothing worked ao I quit logging in. I need to cancel my account but haven’t taken the time.
otp@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Yeah, I had a Twitter account but rarely used it. Shortly after Musk took over, his account was in recommendations and his tweets were in my feed, even though I’d NEVER seen them before.
I blocked him.
He remained at the top of my recommendations.
I think I even occasionally saw his posts when they were retweeted or something by someone I didn’t even follow, because the retweet was trending, I guess?
That’s when I deleted my account.
ABCDE@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Facebook does that for me too, alongside flat earthers, anti EV crap and the occasional funny picture. It’s depressing.
Default_Defect@midwest.social 8 months ago
Oh yeah, the flat earthers, the pictures with lens flare on it being proof of “planet X” and other insanity? The best comedy I’ve ever seen.
lettruthout@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m back to calling it Twitter.
NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s such a stupid name! Everytime it’s mentioned, it has to be prepend or suffixed with something so people actually understand the “X” context.
And more importantly - If you visit x.com, it redirects to twitter.com! So what’s the fucking point of the rebrand?
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Genius, i say! The man’s an absolute genius!
Obviously. Some people say trump should run a social media platform. More and more.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Until he stops allowing deadnaming on his site, I’m going to deadname his site.
WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s only fair.
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Xitter, but the X makes a ‘sh’ sound.
tsonfeir@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Xwitter (zwitter)
Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
To the Mayan people X makes a ‘sh’ sound. That’s the way I pronounce it. Now and forever.
seaQueue@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I haven’t stopped calling it twatter
lemmyingly@lemm.ee 8 months ago
What do people call a tweet in the X rebranding?
recreationalplacebos@midwest.social 8 months ago
Xcrement
BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’ve seen “xeet” from people outside of Twitter. Not sure what an X person would say. It’s pronounced “shit” or “sheet”.
ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
I call it the x social media site
Mastengwe@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Good, but not good enough. It needs to be 0. And if you’re still on that shithole of a propaganda spreading platform- you’re supporting it.
shneancy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
i heard there’s good porn on there, probably why some decided to stick around
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Quite a few Tumblr refugees still I’d imagine. Shame mastodon and Lemmy weren’t ready yet back then.
Also twitter is still one of the biggest platforms for sharing art in general, if you want the large audience, you kinda have to be there.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 8 months ago
will never be zero accounts
at the end it will just be bots crossposting bots and replying to bots.
Toneswirly@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Needing to log in to view someones tweets means now I wont even visit the site when linked. Kinda the number 1 rule of platforms is to make them accessible to those that don’t already use it, so as to convert them later. Musk, and everyone around him letting these decisions run through, are idiots
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 8 months ago
ran into this last night.
I hate twitter, but there was something I was trying to see and the only way to get the info was from a twitter post. Couldnt view the goddamn twitter post without creating an account and logging in.
My immediate thought was “This isnt important enough for this bullshit” and immediately gave up.
I’m convinced this login to view shit is to hide the explosion of right wing white supremacy/racism/etc posts and the bots echoing it from people before they commit themselves to an account.
ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Login to view started before Musk took over, FYI. I distinctly remember avoiding Twitter to spite them in those days.
Snapz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I wrote this right as the first elon buying Twitter mentions were popping up…
Notably, Twitter facilitated communication during the arab spring, where the people organized to stand against and even overthrow several broken and corrupt government regimes throughout the middle east - including some participation in places like Saudi Arabia, for example.
Twitter’s second largest investor after a musk takeover… the kingdom of Saudi Arabia and it’s de facto leader who, among other things, killed and dismembered an American journalist without consequence somewhat recently.
And now Twitter is about to be killed… and dismembered.
the_third@feddit.de 8 months ago
Yep, Saudi Arabia bought that service and the price, giving a man child a toy that it would probably ruin quickly, looked rather attractive.
Empricorn@feddit.nl 8 months ago
What the fuck’s “x”?
psmgx@lemmy.world 8 months ago
X is one of his older websites, a financial platform that he created after his first startup was sold. Name comes from “X marks the spot” from old treasure maps, was to be the place for all transactions.
It struggled and didn’t really get off the ground, but was able to merge with another platform called Confinity, run by Peter Thiel. The merged platforms then became PayPal, and made both guys rich as shit. Thiel eventually power played Musk and got him kicked out of the company, arguably for good reason, though Thiel is quite a piece of work, too.
The new X is Musk’s attempt to make twitter more like his old site, and is why he was throwing around things like making it a peer to peer payment site, similar to WeChat / WePay or Venmo. How he plans to make tweets into bank transfers I’ve got no idea, esp. when losing 30 percent of users.
More on this: forbes.com/…/x-announces-peer-to-peer-payment-ser…
filister@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Pretty much he wants to turn X/Twitter as WeChat’s clone for the West.
As WeChat is both a messaging and payment app used by a couple of hundreds of millions of users in China where people can send themselves money, split bills, pay, etc. using the app.
Visa and MasterCard are extremely profitable companies enjoying really high margins and having very little competition. And this is very lucrative business:
66% operating profit margin for Visa and 55% for Mastercard (four-year average). 51% net profit margin for Visa and 45% for Mastercard (four-year average). 50% per annum return on capital employed for Mastercard and 21% per annum for Visa (11-year average).
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s his favorite letter or something. He’d wanted to name something X for a while. The closest he got before was SpaceX. Which I suppose now retroactively means SpaceTwitter.
jakobmn@feddit.dk 8 months ago
There’s also the poor kid that he named ‘X Æ A-12,’
Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
An obsolete windowing system for UNIX like operating systems
FiskFisk33@startrek.website 8 months ago
obsolete? say that after trying wayland on an nvidia card.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
How the fuck is that all?
EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 8 months ago
How could the jews do this to me :(
-Musk
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
That sounds like bragging. Why aren’t more people stopping this crap?
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Who the fuck is still on that shitpile? Dudes. Stahp.
maculata@aussie.zone 8 months ago
Oh you mean Twitter?
Yeah, ‘X’ is never gonna happen.
recapitated@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I deleted my account and haven’t missed it at all. Then again I was never good at making use of Twitter, it’s too hectic and disorganized for me, and I have the same problem with mastodon.
seaQueue@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Crackhappy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
How do you measure the percentage of people who never used it and are now saying “Oh hell no, not ever!”?
HatchetHaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
I’m part of the 70%.
I use it exclusively for gay furry porn.
arc@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Doesn’t surprise me. Musk has cultivated and emboldened racists, homophobes, cryptobros, misogynists, and the far right and the platform has turned into a cesspit. Meanwhile scammers & bots run rampant and the blueticks stink up every thread with cretinous remarks and trolling.
I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of people have just given up with it, or moved to another social media that isn’t so toxic.
Suavevillain@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’ve been using Bluesky more. It is better with feeds and a way less toxic general user base.
PoliticallyIncorrect@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Good
KingBoo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The 2022 and 2023 usage data was gathered through a national telephone survey of about 1,500 people aged 12 and older—further details and methodology for the 2024 usage data will be released on March 28, according to Edison.
What an interesting choice for collection method when you’re assessing a social media website in 2024.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I would find it more plausible that only 30% remains.
underisk@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Concerning
yojimbo@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Well If you take in account how hard has “The Chief Xit” tried to destroy Twitter and piss off anyone using it, this is actually unexpectadly good result! More Powah to the Man Child 😂 . Also - there is no longer the
$1payment for account creation - I guess bot traffic is better than no traffic 😂.user501213@lemmy.world 8 months ago
good
udon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The whole Musk takeover is much less relevant/interesting for people outside the western context. I asked a few friends in Japan why they still use Twitter, but they just don’t care about the platform and ownership as long as they can still interact with their friends there. Curious how the botification will affect that over time, though.
archchan@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
I miss the OC porn and algorithms but it’s whatever. I like Mastodon
intensely_human@lemm.ee 8 months ago
“suggests” is a pretty weak level of conviction
yamanii@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s a shame that other platforms that are growing for artists is just another monopoly one (bluesky) or defederated from everything and even bans the use of VPN to access it now (misskey.io).
Minotaur@lemm.ee 8 months ago
You’re telling me the company that once had ads for T-Mobile and Volkswagen and now almost exclusively has ads where random bots with NFT photos advertise ChatGPT ‘services’ isn’t doing well financially??
FaceDeer@fedia.io 8 months ago
It's important to note that "doing well financially" isn't just revenue and user count, it's also expenditures. If Twitter has managed to cut costs by more than whatever its income has dropped by then that could well be a good outcome for it, I've heard it wasn't profitable when Musk took it over.
It's kind of ironic how big companies are frequently criticized for fixating on "endless growth" and "line goes up", and then when a company or organization sheds that it also looks bad.
circuscritic@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
There’s so much wrong with your understanding here…so I’ll just point out that you’re talking about Twitter as if it’s still a public company.
And Twitter was never profitable, and it was likely never going to be profitable. But there’s a big difference between their losses and profit projections before Musk, and after.
otp@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
If “lines goes up” meant things get better for the customers, the employees, and the world in general, then people would be cheering it on. Usually it means it gets worse for at LEAST one of the three, and sometimes all 3.
Here, “line goes down” is following Twitter getting worse for the customers, the users, the employees, and the world in general. So people will cheer as it crashes.
Greg@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I thought Twitter’s infrastructure was going to collapse within weeks after Musk made all those cuts and changes. I was obviously wrong because Twitter’s infrastructure didn’t collapse. I’m not speaking to the user experience on Twitter but from a purely infrastructure perspective, Musk was right and I was wrong.
dragontamer@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Twitter has 1.3 Billion / in interest payments alone as it took on $13,000,000,000 in debt for the honor of being bought out by Elon Musk.
The owners of that debt have been quaking in their boots all last year. As Bankruptcy proceedings would make them the new owner of Twitter.