With all the absurd turns YouTube and Google have taken, I’ve been looking at this for five minutes trying to figure out if this is a shitpost
YouTube now suggests new content *by colour*
Submitted 9 months ago by nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info to technology@lemmy.world
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LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 9 months ago
It is not, there are actual colour categories at the top of the page which allow you to filter by thumbnails. This is what the Red page looks like for me:
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
I don’t have the official app, so I choose to pretend this is a shitpost.
Haha A++ shitpost
OrangeCorvus@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’m really disappointed, was expecting all red videos to be those cringey red arrows pointing at irrelevant things.
user224@lemmy.sdf.org 9 months ago
jballs@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I saw it yesterday and thought I had brain damage for a minute.
fidodo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You interacted with it, which means some ux designer somewhere is going to see the metrics and get encouraged
Madrigal@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Nope, I’ve seen it myself. Cannot imagine a more useless feature.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Cannot imagine a more useless feature.
Especially useless for us colorblind people…
GameWarrior@discuss.online 9 months ago
Unfortunately it is not…
MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Sounds like a new and inventive way for them to push sponsored content on you but make it seem like you had some choice in the matter
Plopp@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You’ve search for Red! Here are some funny, relaxing and interesting videos from Coca-Cola, Adobe and Target!
theherk@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Please drink verification can.
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
I’m sure they’ll also share their information with “content creators” so they can all start using the most popular colors and the site can become even more generic and samey
TheFederatedPipe@kbin.social 9 months ago
@LinkOpensChest_wav That is actually why. I've heard creators talk about how YouTube is rolling this new feature now, it gives you the options to add different thumbnails with different colors to target different audience, and see which one performs the best.
AbsurdityAccelerator@lemmy.world 9 months ago
There are millions of youtube videos uploaded every single day. Why do I always get the exact same stuff in my recommendations? And why does YouTube shorts keep playing the same clips over and over again? Even the ones I disliked.
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 9 months ago
uBlock - copy the template in the link below, add it to “My Filters” to completely remove Shorts from YouTube:
SeaJ@lemm.ee 9 months ago
OMG thank you. I fucking hate shorts.
Pechente@feddit.de 9 months ago
Oh man I needed this! Not the stupid extensions that play it in a normal YouTube window or something. I just wanna remove that crappy short form video stuff altogether.
PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
That site is amazing! Thank you!
Boy_of_Soy@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You should never dislike on YouTube. They just view it as engagement and will give it you more. To actually get rid of content that you don’t like, you need to use “not interested” in the context menu.
This drove me crazy for a long time.
AbsurdityAccelerator@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Good to know. I need to see of there’s a way to do it on youtube shorts.
Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
Because those videos give Google the best ad revenue. Who cares what the users watch all long as Google gets rich along the way.
Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
What is the mechanism for that? What do you envision makes them more valuable?
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I honestly cannot envision a scenario in which I would want something like this from YouTube.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
this is for people who arrange their bookshelves by spine color.
you know, idiots.
lemmyingly@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Let me introduce you to some classics.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3pF2jkQ4vc
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpLtgcSG08s
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJLwidSohO8
Before you ask, no, I don’t watch these. I discovered these types of videos only a few months ago and was shocked at the viewer counts.
peyotecosmico@programming.dev 9 months ago
Sometimes the internet is weird
wolfshadowheart@slrpnk.net 9 months ago
Why not? Not you, I mean but why not have it as an option?
Frankly I wouldn’t use it either, but I can absolutely see the appeal. Sometimes you want some warm tones, sometimes you want cool tones. Maybe you’re having a Green party for 4/20 and you’re playing Green Day and watching green videos idk.
Lol dumbness aside, my immediate thought was “this seems like it could be nice for those who sleep to videos” - I know that I don’t always want a white-blue heavy video but something darker and red
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Okay, but what if your darker and redder video is super loud and obnoxious and your blue-white video is quiet and calm? Or the dark red one is strobing and the blue-white one is calm and soft? That’s the problem with just sorting them by color. Color doesn’t really tell you anything about the content of the video. I mean I supposed this very out-there idea of a ‘green party’ could be a weird usage case, but I think that’s a very unusual event and doesn’t really justify the feature.
Psythik@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The only people I could see this feature helpful for is those with synesthesia.
Meron35@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The ASMR and meditation community sometimes embrace a specific colour aesthetic for videos. They’re also all pretty similar in terms of audio level etc so I can see this working well in that niche.
E.g. youtu.be/lziFPKhsJ2A
JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 9 months ago
If you ever needed proof they dont know what they are doing this is it…
dutchkimble@lemy.lol 9 months ago
Or their data tells them the truth and humans don’t know what we are doing…
Advocado@lemmy.world 9 months ago
What? You don’t go to YT and think “hmm i wonder what color I’m in the mood for today”?
Weirdo.
SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Color is so stupid. Who the fuck cares what color the video is. Couldve used this to actual good like pick three minor subjects from the video and ask me if im interested in those. That would be awesome. And I know they have that data.
CluckN@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Black History Month
Separating videos based off of color.
Never change Google.
Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Even easier, pick video lengths.
<1min, 1-10min, 10-30min, 30-60min, 60min+.
I’d use that all the time.
Madrigal@lemmy.world 9 months ago
They used to have that as a filter. Although for a long while you could pick short (<4 mins) or long (>20 mins) but not medium length videos.
This, too, was a sign they had no fucking idea what they were doing.
nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 9 months ago
This reminds of how Xiaomi introduced sorting by colours of the app icon in their launcher. But that was different and I believe actually helped getting around
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
At least that would make for an aesthetically pleasing gradient for some people. Sorting videos by color makes no goddamn sense. I’m not in an orange sort of mood lmao
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I have sorted the icons on my quicklaunch bar (on my desktop PC) by color. Those typically aren’t sorted in any particular order so putting them by color was something visually interesting to do. Their titles aren’t displayed here, it’s just the icons, and there’s 12 of them, so actually it does help guide my eye, if I know I’m looking for, the Blender logo my eye tends toward orange.
PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
That is stupid. I wish it would just let me block channels for real in search. Also, I wonder how that works if you’re colorblind?
If I want something news related, that doesn’t mean I want to see Fox News or other random right wing nutjobs who scream into the camera about “wokeism” every day for 4 hours.
micka190@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Things I wish YouTube would let me do:
- See dislikes
- Disable Shorts (uBlock lets me filter them out, at least)
- At the very least let me control the fucking volume on Shorts instead of muting/unmuting them only if you’re going to force them down my throat (seriously, it makes the entire video format unwatchable on Desktop because every fucking Short video is so god damned loud)
- Disable holding left-click to fast-forward a video (I do this thing where I’m about to pause a video and hold down the click until they’re done talking and this change is just so fucking stupid, I don’t understand who needs to hold down left click to fast-forward)
- Actually block channels I’m not interested in
- Block videos based on keywords
- Recommend videos based on the one I’m currently watching if my watch history is disabled
- Seriously, since disabling it YouTube does nothing but recommend “trending” crap that has absolutely nothing to do with what I’m watching
If they’d implement even half of that, my user experience would shoot up through the roof. But, you know, they couldn’t give a rat’s ass about user experience.
usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
I’d also like them to fix the search. It only returns a small handful of results and then the rest is just recommended stuff not relating to the search
paradiso@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I know it’s been said many times, but I truly miss the old internet. Fuck this homogeneous, corporatized, spyware ridden, ad infested, data harvesting, soulless, pile of fucking dogshit called the modern internet.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Add “autoplay the next episode of the podcast I’m watching if it’s available.” Yeah, youtube, I really wanna watch Well There’s Your Problem #138 immediately after Well There’s Your Problem #43. Idiot.
echodot@feddit.uk 9 months ago
Disable holding left-click to fast-forward a video
Oh god yes I hate this so much. If I want to control the playback speed of video there is an option in the settings for that. If they wanted to make it an option to fast forward by doing something rather than just changing the setting globally, it would have been better if they had picked literally anything other than me having to keep my finger on the mouse button. It should have been if I hold down the right arrow key.
marzipan@feddit.de 9 months ago
One thing that brought back the joy of earlier times youtube for me was
- Disable thumbnails (e.g. “Clickbait Remover for Youtube” on ff)
Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Holding left click to fast forward is the best feature they’ve d added in a long time
aPirate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Currently the set up that makes youtube somewhat tolerable for me is, Ublock Origin (obviously), sponsor block, Return youtube dislike, Youtube-shorts block , and UnHook. Another option would be to use invidous, Freetube, or NewPipe, but all of them are not perfect and have their own limitations.
nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 9 months ago
Also, I wonder how that works if you’re colorblind?
This was probably a joke but I can actually answer that for you.
First of all, afaik there is no scientific consensus that people see the colours the same way. In fact, we most likely don’t. The visual colour interpretation is mostly likely merely added on by our brains basing on the knowledge of wavelengths. In other words, there is no such thing as “absolute blue”. There is “a blue” which is the colour each one of us’ brains was taught to call blue by simply showing the sky. If I were to look through your brain (but not through your eyes, eyes understand wavelengths), we would probably disagree on each and every colour.
Second of all, there are different kinds of colour blindness. It is in fact an umbrella term for different disabilities. My understanding is that they usually involve a spectrum between two hues. So most colourblind will simply be unable to tell a difference between objects of two colours: for example red and green. They see them as slightly different versions of the same colour. However it would be wrong to say that the person in question sees red as green or vice versa, because, again, there are no “absolute colours”. Their eyes cannot distinguish between these two ranges of wavelengths and the brain interprets them as the same colour.
And finally, colourblind people, when diagnosed, are fully aware of being colourblind, and furthermore, they DO NOT see in black and white. Even if a person cannot distinguish red and orange, then they still are aware there is a difference that most people around can tell and that there are concepts and feelings associated with them.
What I am trying to say is that a colour-blind person would probably still be able to, for example, associate “red” videos with action and blood, and “green” ones with nature and calmness, even though this distinction is not palpable to them.
Either way, this filtering with thumbnail colour is fucking stupid.
PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Very interesting - my job involves a lot of Excel and charts, so I recently took a training on how to make those more accessible for colorblind folks. So that’s good to know!
evatronic@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Also, I wonder how that works if you’re colorblind?
It’s orange, blue, and yellow fyi.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
That depends on the type of color blindness, there are different types
Thann@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
The recommendation algo is so bad they are testing it against a random bullshit generator…
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I fucking hate the algorithm.
I can watch 20 fucking hours of content about a subject, and it wont suggest anything similar.
but I accidentally click a link someone posts to a crazy right wing video, I get nothing but right wing violence and brainwashing fear mongering videos for over a week that I can barely break the fuck out of with hyper specific searches.
Which is the same problem facebook has, in that the algorithm favors right wing extremism and shoves people heavily down that path, and only through very significant and concerted effort can you break out of it.
Joelk111@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Holy crap, the amount of hate in here, and no actual description of what it does. It’s essentially your normal home feed, but only the videos with thumbnails of the selected color. It’s also way over at the right of the home feed filters, so it isn’t like it’s being shoved down your throats.
noodlejetski@lemm.ee 9 months ago
bfg9k@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Has anyone else noticed that if a video says ‘like and subscribe’ the subscribe button does a little animation to draw your eye to it?
Really wish there was a better way to host videos that doesn’t require a multibillion dollar company’s backing
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Probably another method of gathering user data for their AI training models.
I no longer think that big media corporations are doing stupid things for no reason because they’re dumb
I think they do stupid things because they want another way to train their dumb AI and we’re all too dumb, mindless and powerless to say or do anything about it all.
It’s crazy when you think about it … humanity is degrading itself from all corners just to raise an idiot AI child that will be just as messed up as we are.
Mango@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Can I get a feed that’s not insisting that I watch the same small selection of garbage for months? Thanks.
Minotaur@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I just used it and I thought it was kind of cute. It’s obviously “useless”, but as a small (I assume temporary) change I thought it was interesting to see how different “genres” of videos tend to color code themselves in the thumbnail.
I’m all for small, fun little things in websites. Like anytime google has an interactive daily theme
gun@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
This is a data collection strategy, not a feature
96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 9 months ago
I like algorithms giving me suggestions in all sorts of ways, but not shady ones. None of the people around me seem to mind, but I worry about a company like Google strongly influencing what information we consume.
Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
I wonder if they are doing something worse and just overshadowing it with this weird change. Like we are using your data for training AI with no opt out BUT look at this random color picker! Don’t mind the first part, LOOK! COLORS!
snek@lemmy.world 9 months ago
How revolutionaly. How disruptive. How innovative. /s
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 9 months ago
That’ll work great. More SEO to pigeonhole videos that will be abused by creators.
hal_5700X@lemmy.world 9 months ago
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 9 months ago
Nice to see another intellectual Cracking the Cryptic enjoyer. A toast in your name my friend.
Jorgelino@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
Wait that’s supposed to be for suggesting videos? When I first saw it I thought it was just for customizing the look of the feed and was very disappointed that it didn’t change anything.
_number8_@lemmy.world 9 months ago
this is beyond jumping the shark, this is a whole new category of stupid
it’s worse than musk-esque stupidity, because clearly there’s thought and research behind this, it’s all just incredibly cynical and demeaning to the human race
mmagod@lemmy.world 9 months ago
their good devs and engineers have left
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Never even looked at the home tab before, when I go there it just says watch history is off lol
pantyhosewimp@lemmynsfw.com 9 months ago
They should do it on texture instead.
- Your red velvet cake is missing this one ingredient.
- Ten Seinfeld quotes about wearing velvet.
- Your mind will be blown by this analysis of “Blue Velvet”
- All the Easter eggs in Velvet Underground album covers
- The terrible origin of the phrase, ‘iron fist in velvet glove’
All with thumbnails of the narrator with a shocked face & an illustrated arrow pointing at something vague
Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 9 months ago
Youtube seems to base my suggestions on shoots wall of videos with a shotgun style of recommendations.
I do everything in my power to stop Google from tracking me, but when I’m watching youtube videos on youtube, it should be able to gifure itself out.
And “don’t recommend this video to me, I don’t like it” does nothing. Just to see how long it will keep this up, I keep telling it I don’t want to see let’s play videos of star trek online. But it sure wants me to see them, dozens of them, daily, sometimes recommending the same video I already told it not to.
And its really been pushing me to watch right-wing conspiracy videos and flat earth videos after whatever I just purposefully clicked on, despite most of my content views being future Sci fi with either apocalyptic levels of devastation on galactic scales, or “post-scarcity utopia where energy is virtually limitless and energy/matter manipulation is easy peasy, usually liberally peppered with anti-capitalist and progressive themes”
And of course “female leads bad because feeeemale”.
elgordio@kbin.social 9 months ago
Seems like an interesting spin on what is basically ’random’. Probably a decent way to get content in front of users that might be outside their normal recommendations.
Is it some essential new feature, no, it’s just a bit of fun to find some new content.
Exec@pawb.social 9 months ago
Is this yet another “make something new bs feature to get a promotion” at google?
Plopp@lemmy.world 9 months ago
So, instead of getting the ability to search for videos properly, with negative search terms, user defined video length spans, exact dates, sort by reverse date order etc… we get ambient mode and color search? Can someone please, for the sake of humanity and my sanity, erase this company and its parent from the planet.
asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Seriously, there was a time when Google was lauded for all kinds of awesome innovation, and joked about that you needed a PhD to even be a janitor there.
Look at them now. They can’t even do basic search functionality anymore, and are so misguided that they put out color filters for video.
I 100% agree they need to just stop existing at this point.
vexikron@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
Arent there like Ralph from the Simpsons originating jokes about how like, this crayon tastes like yellow?
Congrats YouTube, thank you so much.
I can now enjoy green flavored content, fuck having a working suggestion algorithm that actually recommends interesting content, I guess I can use YouTube for what it seems to be intended for these days, as an ambient noise and color generator for my monitor and room while i actually do something else.
flumph@programming.dev 9 months ago
The fact that Google started as a search company and yet search in their own apps sucks is boggling.
In YouTube Music, when you’re building a tuner to create a station, you can’t search at all. Instead, you get an endless scroll off bands and have to find the one you want that way. The order is random.
Like … Pandora let you do the same thing with search back in the 00’s
grue@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It’s not boggling; it’s very simple: they discovered that having shitty search apparently makes them more money than having good search.
ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Stop being so chartreuse! Would it kill you to be a little more periwinkle?
Plopp@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You made me search the internet to rid me of my confusion! I’m all vermilion now!
user224@lemmy.sdf.org 9 months ago
I absolutely hate the ambient mode. I mean, I get it, it’s kind of my problem if I am trying to use ancient desktop, but it’s also pretty unnecessary.
Trying to view YouTube videos on many school computers became a pain in the ass. Some are so laggy that I can’t even get to disable the ambient mode without which it would still be somewhat usable. (But hey, piped.video works.)
Hell, even my HP 255 G7 (a fairly average office laptop with Ryzen 3 3200U) struggles with it. It gets laggy and turns into hairdryer.
Secondly, it’s distracting.
Justas@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Yes it’s super weird that porn sites had that functionality for over a decade and one of the world’s largest tech companies still can’t implement those.
Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
The search was already so abysmal that this doesn’t change much.
fidodo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This sounds like they made a cheap feature from data they already had, but didn’t stop to think why anyone would ever want it.
theherk@lemmy.world 9 months ago
💰