LainTrain
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- Comment on This is real 18 hours ago:
lol enjoy your unseasoned boiled wheat, troll
Isn’t unseasoned grains boiled in water more of an asia thing, like rice?
Brits are using on average 250 cloves of garlic per year. If you genuinely think it’s weird and are not making a weird troll attempt here, I’m afraid you’re the weird one. I guess that’s weird either way.
But yet I’ve never heard a single Brit using so much garlic it stinks in the next apartment over, nor steams up their windows as you implied lol.
Demanding that everyone who comes to your country either stops cooking the food they grew up eating or keeps it a secret is not reasonable, and is oppressive.
I did not make such a demand, I said manage any unusual smells you emit. You need to chill out, I eat my country of origin’s food too, I just make sure that if it’s smelly, like say sardines or something, I dont leave it out or make so much of it that it disturbs my neighbours.
When I lived in a foreign country, I didn’t stop cooking my home country’s food; indeed, I shared it with my new friends in that country and we all enjoyed the experience. (No doubt this violation of my own privacy is strange to you…)
Do you not understand the difference between friends and family - willing participants, and strangers, like random neighbours or passers-by on the street you don’t own?
Because consent is everything, the former are willing participants, the latter are not.
Why do you want random strangers to know what you ate?
Hence the analogy, it’s the same question as why would you want others to know what you’re watching by blasting video on speaker on the bus?
Yeah newsflash dumbass, I also share my country of origin’s food with my friends and family and they also love it. I’m not so sure my neighbours or random strangers would love it if I threw it in their face or made the neighborhood smell like it.
Most people in the UK are right wing by voting intention. What’s your point with this?
My point is that you accused me of oppression by demanding you hide your culture, a right-wing viewpoint which I did not state and do not advocate for.
I do support diversity - a left-wing viewpoint - but I also support courtesy, and in this instance the two are seemingly at odds, and I’m forced to pick and defend the courtesy.
I’ve seen people in the past assume that my dislike of some asian food is indication of right-wing beliefs. I linked the survey that suggests - statistically it is not so.
While yes, to an extent this is just a survey of popularity of takeaways generally, that explanation doesn’t account for the entire difference nor the variance between choices. If it was just a popularity of takeaways contest or general popularity of the political parties, all of the bar charts would have the same order.
It doesn’t account for the variance in order, e.g. Labour is currently second in voting intention, but on the chippy graph it is third, after Tories, and first on the pizza graph.
Those two things are completely unconnected. Treat others as you’d like to be treated is a moral fundamental; it does not follow from a desire for privacy. A desire for privacy follows from a selfish (but entirely legitimate) desire not to suffer consequences for personal choices that don’t affect others.
Idk, for me fundamentally treating others as you’d like to be treated is about the social contract of tolerance - which is about not bothering anyone for their innate characteristics, to me if you follow the line of thought then “bother” can be defined as disruption and interference on top of outright obvious discrimination, and that includes emitting uncontrolled amounts of disruptive smells on unconsenting unsuspecting others.
It is less severe than punching someone in the face, or being punched in the face, but it is not categorically different, if that makes sense.
someone looks over my shoulder at what’s on my phone and sees I’m listening to Abba, that’s an intrusion into my privacy, but the person hasn’t suffered anything that I wouldn’t wish on myself.
You’ve got it the wrong way around:
If I look over your shoulder at what’s on your phone, and see you listen to Abba, I’m intruding your privacy.
I shouldn’t do this, because I don’t want for you to look over my shoulder and see that I’m listening to Electric Light Orchestra’s underrated album “Time” and looking kinda sad when “Ticket to the Moon” comes on.
If you do so accidentally, on say packed public transport, it’s okay, but we as a society should strive to eliminate this sort of overcrowding, IMO.
It’s the same as me being forced to smell your BO. I do not want it. I do not consent to it. Wear deodorant, and I will as well.
Basic stuff, frankly.
So as I said, these are completely separate, unrelated concepts.
No. They are intrinsically connected, as I said.
Both are ultimately stemming from a desire to be left alone.
This is extremely far from normal. We’re social creatures.
This is a bioessentialist broad generalisation that doesn’t hold true when you consider how many people hate places that have many people.
I’d even go as far as to say that maybe we are social creatures in a world of like 4 million humans, not 8 billion humans.
I’m wondering if you’re autistic - it would explain an aversion to strong sensory experiences like smelling garlic, and to social interactions that are normal to most others.
You don’t know me or know anything about me, you either misunderstood what I wrote - like you implying I’m telling you to hide your culture when I said nothing of the sort.
Or:
We have a fundamental disconnect that we cannot reconcile - like you implying that strangers and friends are even remotely comparable.
Notice how I never accused you of engaging in bad faith, being a troll or attempted to diagnose you with mental illness.
I don’t make assumptions of bad faith about random internet strangers and I’d appreciate it if you did the same, thanks.
- Comment on This is real 19 hours ago:
I live in the UK, average temp where I live is 5c, given the windchill and ~80% humidity most days, it’s cold as shit.
I also don’t produce as much BO due to maintaining fairly low primary sex hormone levels intentionally for other reasons.
I wear deodorant every single day, and perfume (lush body spray though, normal perfumes stink).
We are not the same.
- Comment on This is real 20 hours ago:
Idgaf what the landlord cares about, they’re sucking the life out of society, why don’t they go suck a dick instead?
- Comment on This is real 20 hours ago:
Most food is seasoned.
Most food doesn’t stink half as much.
I’m not saying Asian food is bad.
I’m not saying don’t eat it.
What I’m saying is: be mindful of others and don’t impose smells on unsuspecting people who are unfortunate enough to be there.
You wear deodorant, don’t you? Because you don’t want others to know you are sweaty, and you wouldn’t want to smell others’ sweat, would you? So you mask BO with deodorant. Especially if you’re particularly sweaty, such as after work or a workout.
So why not do so for extraordinarily stinky food?
- Comment on This is real 20 hours ago:
The problem is only when the place is made for one person, e.g. a studio, and there is one official resident, but actually more unofficial residents that are on-paper guests, but de-facto stay there, and as such generate disruptive noise to the neighbours or overload some shared facilities.
The “cousin” example is just hyperbole for emphasis.
- Comment on This is real 20 hours ago:
What a weird hill to die on.
Of course if I’m cooking so much it steams up my windows (wtf are you cooking), I try to manage the smell because I should not impose a smell on my fellow man.
Do you not wear deodorant too, because it’s in your “culture”? Ew.
Most importantly I do not want others to know what I’m eating. It’s not information I choose to share because of a fundamental basic desire for privacy, for the same reason I wouldn’t want others to hear the music in listening to, videos i’m watching, or read my thoughts or feel my emotions unless I chose to share it with them in the way I choose to share it (words of deliberate communication).
If I was going out of my way to eat something unusually super stinky and weird like garlic containing foods, or asian food, especially Indian & Chinese, where e.g. a letting agent once showed me a flat that was reduced rent because it smelled like instant ramen because someone ate it all the time there, I would be mindful of the smell it generates because to me the past resident will forever be “ramen guy” and in the unlikely event we ever met, I highly doubt that’s how he wants to be known, and I certainly wouldn’t want to be known as that or for any food I eat or information I don’t deliberately share.
And when it’s imposed by one culture on another it starts to sound discriminatory to me.
Yeah, so when asian food in the west is imposed upon westerners and other immigrants who are happy to integrate with western culture by immigrants who are not, it’s a-okay, but me asking for reasonable adjustments is “oppression”?
Lol what the fuck. I never thought I’d be arguing for what feels like a right-wing viewpoint, but come on, surely you can see how this is absurd? When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
FYI: A survey in the UK found most asian takeaway is consumed by right-wing voters.
No.
Then we can never understand each other. If you lack the fundamental desire for privacy, from which a “treat others as you’d like to be treated” idea easily follows, thinking that maybe you shouldn’t be stinking up the street so everyone knows what you’re eating at all times, then our differences are irreconcilable and I could not begin to imagine how to even communicate with you, it is simply inconceivable.
- Comment on Unified Theory of American Reality 20 hours ago:
you’re doing the autistic version of projection, all the reasoning faults you are accusing me of doing are… the ones you are doing, and I know what that looks like because I am also autistic and used to do that when I was younger and/or flustered, seen a lot of other autists do it too.
Unhinged.
I’m not wasting time writing an in-depth response to someone who holds up economics and marketing as if they are sciences and their concepts hold serious value, and does so to accuse me of having autism lol wtf
I think if anyone has information overload it’s you, I’m not viewing your dodgy source link that starts with “read-vip.variety” until I can verify it’s legit, as I said.
I wasn’t even suggesting that your data point was incorrect either, I said it was “maybe-true”, it wasn’t relevant because the rest of your argument barely connected to it.
you can just look things up
Yeah I thought so too, but then people like you take numbers and just not understand them, so I guess maybe you can’t just look things up.
- Comment on This is real 20 hours ago:
Yeah, it sucks
- Comment on Fake Protest Videos Are the Latest AI Slop to Go Viral in MAGA World 20 hours ago:
I see people daily due to living in a city and it only makes me hate them more.
- Comment on Unified Theory of American Reality 1 day ago:
If the oldest Gen-Zer is 28, and youngest is 13, assuming an even distribution, that puts the average Gen-Z is roughly 20 and a half, long past done with school, assuming school means school and does not include university or higher ed and stops at 18, then in fact the vast majority of Gen-Z are done with the vast majority of school.
This invalidates your point, and while I’m curious about your rather odd source link that I’m not clicking till I can verify what that is at the desktop, I doubt it supports your free-associative generational generalisations about ill-defined spooks like “mindset” and some ramblings about tech scams that you happily append to your maybe-true data point about AI tool use.
As one of those “kids these days” who is 27, from my experience, very much including this exchange, boomers and the vast majority of Gen X have absolutely no intellectual capabilities and interacting with one makes it exceedingly obvious.
They often cannot read, and if they can - they cannot read more than a paragraph without getting lost, and they often cannot write properly either.
This makes sense when you consider that even in the laziest pursuit of talking with a chatbot – the average Gen-Zer probably reads more text in a day incidentally than an average Gen Xer reads in their entire life even if they’re fairly well-read.
A thought that’s been popular during the pandemic is how “our brains” weren’t “meant” to process all the information that comes from the internet and that it leads to some sort of overwhelming of the faculties, but in personal anecdote - I’ve never experienced this or even known anyone who has. If I trust my eyes and ears (and pretend like IRL isn’t just another, arguably far more self-serving selective echo chamber than any corporate algo even like the olds do), I could easily conclude that misinformation in general is a phenomenon almost entirely confined to people over the age of Gen-Z.
While the move to video is a real phenomenon, I would argue that it does not by itself evidence a decline in basic intelligence, and is a self-fulfilling prophecy where monetisation on video was much easier to do well due to inherently better CTR/engagement/impact on impressions than traditional banner ads that supported written sides, leading for it to be more widespread and therefore concentrating a lot of useful and entertaining content and information in video, leading people to read less.
Again, though – the above is a side tangent because most Gen-Z were born long before this phenomenon occurred.
And before you bring this up - yes, literacy rates have gone down due to the economic decline/collapse of the western capitalist model and monetary policies of austerity alongside the culture of anti-intellectualism and gerontocracy who perpetuates it like their arteries perpetuate lead in their bloodstream, but again – this does not impact the vast majority of Gen-Z who are done with the vast majority of schooling.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but it’s embarrassing to make such an obvious error in an argument where you claim “kids these days” are somehow dumber.
The skill involved in not simply parroting points that fit your conclusions, but actually understanding what you’re parroting is called critical thinking.
While I’m no scientist and I actually don’t think I’m smart at all, I do think what thinking skills I do have - I owe to exposure to various “tech scams”, making mistakes, examining them, disregarding authority, not blindly trusting, learning the difference between an opinion and truth, and learning to reason correctly.
I focus my equally free-associative personal anecdote observations (the immovable object to the unstoppable force of an overly broad generalisation) on the boomers and the gen-x, but millennials to me while definitely more outwardly intelligent probably due to better education, diet, habit and lesser alcohol consumption, overall they lack a certain rigour and intensity required to truly drill deep.
Looking back at political debates and discussions during the Great financial crash in 2008, it really does feel like I’m watching simpletons talk about rather basic things as if they’re complex and puzzling. I stand on the shoulder of giants etc. etc. but this even applies to ideas that to them and me are equally from the distant past.
- Comment on This is real 1 day ago:
You’re not reading right. I said the legal document of a rental agreement is dry, and morons won’t read it, so they have to have something more shouty and threatening shoved in their face, simplified and made emotional, like how you’d speak to a misbehaving animal, simple words, emphasis on the tone.
If you’d still want to do the opposite, you’re just antisocial and probably the reason this was put up.
Having dealt with such antisocial behaviour before, it was a nightmare, I only wish it was legal to deliver such individuals to the hell in which I hope they burn for all eternity.
- Comment on This is real 1 day ago:
I meant weed lol.
As for asian food, I think it’s a very well known fact that asian food has a smell that lingers and carries far more than most other cuisines commonly encountered in the english-speaking world.
- Comment on This is real 1 day ago:
I like the tone actually. Hate landlords and yeah it’s a bit nasty when you think of the social dynamics but honestly sometimes you just have to reach people, because the kinds of people who become an issue also don’t tend to read the dry legal document that is their rental agreement, I guarantee you.
- Comment on This is real 1 day ago:
Yeah you’re right one of them is a smell some people can somehow stand because they live in it and it doesn’t make it any more appropriate to emit
- Comment on Unified Theory of American Reality 1 day ago:
Bro what are you smoking. Gen-Z is getting up their 30s, they’re by far the most vocally anti-AI group out there. The only ones who willingly and readily outsource their brains to it are boomers.
- Comment on This is real 1 day ago:
That seems fairly reasonable. No one should have to put up with noisy neighbours stomping around all night or throwing house parties packing like sardines into overcrowded flats like it’s a bus in India or constantly emitted smells of dogshit, weed and asian food or be harassed for no reason or feel unsafe or otherwise disrupted in their own home or the surrounding infrastructure that they need to use as part of daily life like exits/entrances/walkways etc.
It’s called the social contract.
- Comment on Lifetime of earnings not enough for UK workers to join wealthiest 10%, report says 1 day ago:
It means hypothetically, in the abstract - if you got your lifetime earnings as a lump sum in one day it still wouldn’t be enough to get rich which shows how little wage labour pays compared to ways the rich make money e.g. assets
- Comment on Ministers to announce significant changes to UK’s planning system 3 days ago:
Can’t build on dirt, can’t demolish old Victorian mcmansions, can’t build high because of the skyline boomers, can’t build infrastructure because budgets are drained by endless consultancies to funnel money to the private sector etc etc.
In the 60s the UK built the entire actually modern and livable city of Milton Keynes with all its endless cycle highways and incredibly walkable design for less than 1/4th the cost of the HS2 thus far and we have literally not built any of it yet even.
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Adjusted for inflation, it’s £11b Vs £40b.
- Comment on Apple has REMOVED the ICEBlock app from the App Store due to “objectionable content.” 3 days ago:
You do realize that countries outside the US exist, right? Because the answer is No. No, they do not do these things outside of United States of America - which is 1 country.
Yes, as weird as it seems to you - the world is not entirely in one country called United States and what applies to what you know of your country does not apply in the entire world.
Here in the UK even grandma does not mail in bill payments, nor do most places accept this, she does it via the app or the utility company website for Direct Debit, or she has someone do it for her via the app before she goes on to be racist on Facebook.
This is the same way for blue collar workers. They in-fact - must have debit cards because they must have bank accounts to even get paid via PAYE and IR35 and thus pay taxes. While there are jobs outside of that, the people who work those jobs will be paid into bank accounts, and cash in hand jobs mean via PayPal or Venmo or some such that all also require bank accounts and KYC.
Hell, you can’t even rent a place without showing them your bank statements, or straight up letting the letting agency login to your bank account via some third party data harvesting / “income analysis” tool so they can “confirm” your income and employment status. I had this exact thing demanded when I was looking for a place up and down the country just over half a year ago.
Credit cards yes - most people do not use them, but that’s because not that many people are keen to borrow money or engage in any finance that could be seen as “gambling”, definitely least so the wagies, with the exception of some horse betting or memestocks or in the case of 100% brain use - a savings account at a bank or building society, all of which almost universally already require a bank account meaning a minimum of 2 apps.
You saying this interaction is pointless is very self-reporting, because you are essentially stating that you will not change your mind regardless of how many times and how much you are corrected.
It is an admission that your bizarre insistence that your experience is universal - as if you not knowing how things are in the rest of the world is some sort of attack on you - is in fact, terminal. I’m sorry for you.
- Comment on Apple has REMOVED the ICEBlock app from the App Store due to “objectionable content.” 3 days ago:
No, we cannot do those things any other way.
Yes, it’s a privilege to be able to simply say no to having a bank account, for one you’d need to not be in paid employment and not on any financial assistance, so basically a NEET and/or like a foreign-born investor, for which you need to be pretty rich.
- Comment on Apple has REMOVED the ICEBlock app from the App Store due to “objectionable content.” 3 days ago:
Genuinely shocking. Idgaf about any of this but the America-centrism is crazy.
- Comment on Apple has REMOVED the ICEBlock app from the App Store due to “objectionable content.” 3 days ago:
I am not American you weird internet man. In the rest of the world and specifically my part of it - Europe, all banks require their app, there is no way around it, and there is no way to use foreign bank accounts or not have a bank account at all etc etc.
I wrote about all this before, including ITT.
Why the fuck do I have to explain this over and over like you was born yesterday?
Stop assuming your country’s experience is at all representative of the rest of the world, because evidently - it is not.
- Comment on Apple has REMOVED the ICEBlock app from the App Store due to “objectionable content.” 3 days ago:
Because you can’t get paid I to a foreign bank you absolute child.
- Comment on Apple has REMOVED the ICEBlock app from the App Store due to “objectionable content.” 6 days ago:
In most of the world.
- Comment on Apple has REMOVED the ICEBlock app from the App Store due to “objectionable content.” 6 days ago:
Yeah. And to think, it’s a fairly small amount of nuance - it’s very basic and intuitive and information about it is literally everywhere. We are hopeless when it comes to far more complex and nuanced social issues. People seem to think socialism is like “be nice to each other” or some stupid aestheticism about “empathy”.
- Comment on Apple has REMOVED the ICEBlock app from the App Store due to “objectionable content.” 6 days ago:
Yeah it’s unhinged, FOSS is as communism in practice as it gets right now and the left just ignores it, dismissing it as “tech bad” because they can only think in AnPrim brainrot terms most of the time and judge only by aesthetics and make sweeping generalisations about social media that lack any and all imagination.
- Comment on Apple has REMOVED the ICEBlock app from the App Store due to “objectionable content.” 6 days ago:
Yes but you can’t motherfucker, don’t you understand that? In most of the world you have to use the app, you CANNOT use online banking without the bank’s app on your phone, it is the only way to sign in, there is no “home banking”, and you are not even allowed to enter a physical bank location on the high street without being intercepted by a ghoul telling you to use the app or fuck off, you cannot call the bank because they have no public number, you do everything via the app or you cannot do anything.
Most of the time you don’t even have a bank card, just the bank card details in the bank app on your phone that are automatically added to Google Pay, and you use that because near everything is cashless and NFC.
- Comment on Apple has REMOVED the ICEBlock app from the App Store due to “objectionable content.” 6 days ago:
Yeah except I do actually need one for work, paying rent, paying bills etc. It’s a helluva position of privilege to be able to say no to something like that, and that’s coming from someone who doesn’t have a car, which is far less necessary.
- Comment on Apple has REMOVED the ICEBlock app from the App Store due to “objectionable content.” 6 days ago:
Useless without passing Google’s Integrity checks.
- Comment on Apple has REMOVED the ICEBlock app from the App Store due to “objectionable content.” 6 days ago:
How the fuck would I access my bank then? All banks literally require their apps to access the account or sometimes even open the account, nevermind actually pay for anything or get a debit or credit card.
