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• tino@lemmy.world ⁨28⁩ ⁨seconds⁩ ago

  Get your ass outside at 0ºC and I guarantee you it’s 0% hot.

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• m0darn@lemmy.ca ⁨54⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  You guys are too ignorant to see how full of shit OP is.

  50F is not 50% hot, it’s cold. If your house was 50F you’d be saying “something is wrong with my HVAC”. You’d never heat to only 50, and you’d never cool that far. It’s cellar temperature (colder than a wine cellar, warmer than a root cellar).

  70F is 50% hot. It’s a temp you’d cool to in the summer, and a temp you’d heat to in the winter.

  100F isn’t 100% hot either, most people enjoy a hottub to be a little hotter.

  Tldr: OP is wrong

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• RBWells@lemmy.world ⁨42⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  I would prefer Celsius if it was smaller degrees, so 0 = freezing is great logic but boiling needs to be 1000 not 100. There just aren’t enough degrees between freezing and boiling, Celsius is too inexact.

  And no way is 50 medium in F, it is cold. We might actually put the heater that low because the HVAC system we have is built more for cooling, but that is very, very cold feeling. 0 in F is beyond cold, that is 32 degrees (or 18 of your civilized degrees) below freezing. Hellish cold.

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• mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Just in case because this is the internet at the end of the day. Fahrenheit is not linked to a percentage of anything. It’s mostly arbitrary in terms of assigning a number scale to temperature and it’s linked to brine solutions and human body temperature.

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• stickly@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Hot take: the best temperature scale would have 0º be freezing and 100º be human body temp. Fahrenheit is already supposed to be that but nobody gives a shit about a saline solution freeze point and they fucked up the human body temp.

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  • Luccus@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I propose the body temperature of an average opossum as the fixed point for 100 because they are cute as heck. We shall call this unit Possigrade. And anything above 100 Possigrade should be called the ‘rabies zone’ and 0 Possigrade should correspond to 8°C, as this feels very cold when dressed inappropriately. In addition, there is now the Bakers Possigrade, where 100 corresponds to 27°C, as this is the temperature at which sourdough bread rises by about ⅓ in 5.5 hours.

    But seriously: Celsius is fine. On Earth, we are primarily interested in water at atmospheric pressure. Too many things contain water (pipes, food, paint, etc) and they react differently at 0 °C than at 4 °C. For this reason, we deliberately avoid using water in applications that are regularly exposed to sub-zero temperatures. Water is simply everywhere, so 0 °C and 100 °C are important tipping points for general use.

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    • stickly@lemmy.world ⁨44⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Celsius is great for engineering because Things Happen™️ when water starts boiling or freezing. But most people aren’t engineering daily. Cooking temps generally dont require much precision and there are too many niche break points to easily factor: safe meat temps, refrigeration temps, oil smoke points, etc… Our chefs are basically screwed no matter what.

      That leaves measuring weather as the most universal daily application. Celsius not great because the temp outside your door is going to be between mid -20º and mid 40º. It’s nice to have water freezing at 0º (snow, frost, ice) but thats the only interesting break point. You could just as easily set 100º to be the temperature of the sun and have the same daily experience.

      Humans are endothermic, which means being somewhere hotter than us is Not Good™️. That would be very nice to set as a breaking point for weather purposes, but unfortunately the danger varies wildly with humidity/airflow/personal tempature regulation/hydration/etc… If we set the triple digit break to indicate an unsafe body temp then we at least can approximate the danger and get a little bonus medical utility.

      Mean body temp varies slightly based on several factors:

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      So set 100º to be one standard deviation over and its perfect for daily use. Checkmate Celciusts

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  • wabasso@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    I think I see what you’re getting at, but you could just memorize 40, 35, or even 30 as “watch out, pretty close to human body temperature”. Three anchors in the scale beats two.

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• Gobbel2000@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  We need to collectively realize that both Celsius and Fahrenheit are mostly arbitrary and not more than practical conventions to assign numbers to temperatures. Kelvin makes more sense but is impractical for daily use. It’s just US-Americans distracting from the fact that most of their units are objectively bad compared to Metric by pointing out that Celsius is only marginally better.

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  • Zoomboingding@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Kelvin is the most logical. That’s why I measure all time by seconds since January 1, 1970

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    • Lauchmelder@feddit.org ⁨43⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      ah yes, the absolute zero of time. love it!

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  • ptu@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If only there was a way to tie Kelvin to some naturally occurring, everyday phenomena

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  • Starski@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No, it’s just in response to the countless number of non Americans who constantly insult Americans because we have a slightly different measurement system that doesn’t effect the insulter in the slightest. It doesn’t help that anyone in the sciences in America do know metric, like fully, no one has a problem using it here and I know plenty of people even outside of the sciences that know enough metric to get by fine, you guys really need to get over your strange obsession with our measurement system.

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    • wabasso@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I don’t disagree that people venting about F can get overzealous. I still think there’s a significant improvement with C though. Not saying it’ll make American scientists better, I believe you that they do fine with it. But that’s also contingent on the rest of the units being imperial.

      I often see conversion constants with the unit conversion baked into them, so you lose info on what was the empirically derived constant and what’s just there to allow you to multiply temperature in F against other thermo quantities that rely on relation back to Kelvin.

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    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      affect

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    • voodooattack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I write fiction and use Celsius. So what I usually have to deal with is the exact opposite of what you’re talking about.

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• pH3ra@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Americans using the word propaganda for “something I don’t understand because my school system failed me so now I overcompensate by making up factoids that make me look even more uneducated by the rest of the world”

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  • moopet@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Repurposing words like that is underrated.

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  • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Americans using the word propaganda for “something I don’t understand because my school system failed me so now I overcompensate by making up factoids that make me look even more uneducated by the rest of the world”

    Whoosh.

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• vaderaj@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  How is freezing cold, 32% hot? What am I missing here?

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  • offspec@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because I can still walk to the mailbox in shorts at 32

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    • GaMEChld@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Or pull the trash cans to the curb!

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• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  I hate that this makes sense.

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• umbraroze@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’m in Finland. I sometimes say stuff like “oh it’s -30°C today. It’s getting just a little bit nippy.”

  A friend of mine in California is like “Jesus Christ what are you talking about” and yes, he can convert that

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  • Starski@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is a really bad representation lmao, you’re giving an example of Finland in like mid winter comparing it to the reaction of someone who literally never sees winter. My state has had around -30°c for the last 2 weeks, been chilling, I’ve definitely preferred when it’s been getting closer to -20 to -10 which has been funny, actually enjoying temperatures under freezing, but I don’t get what your comments trying to say. It’s not like Finland is that temperature all year lol, the climate of my city is surprisingly similar to a lot of Finland and I gotta say being in the cold still sucks.

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• aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Celsius is percentage boiling.

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  • Lemmythings@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    only at 1013,3mbar

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• lefixxx@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  i tell them i use a 100 hour clock. Day starts at 0 at ends at 100. They see how much better it is and they have an existential crisis. And then everyone clapped

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  • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Technically, 1000 beats per day - but yes, Swatch tried this back in ‚99:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_Time

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    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Thanks, I hate that I love it

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    • MintyFresh@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Fuuuuck. That’s the coolest thing I’m in. On on .beat time now!

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• CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  and then theres Kelvin, where 0 literally is 0% hot

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  • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Image

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    • Chrobin@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I have to be that guy: it’s K, not °K.

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  • Klear@quokk.au ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We need a new scale where 0 is 0K and 100 is the temperature of the big bang.

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    • unmagical@lemmy.ml ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Another balmy day of approximately 0 degrees out.

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    • Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      May I suggest calling it the Morphius scale?

      “The temperature will be 1 °M today” “In the beginning it was 100 degrees Morphius”

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• Typhoon@lemmy.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I like how they claimed Fahrenheit made sense by relating it to a scale between 0 and 100 because a grade divided into 100 pieces (centigrade) is a system that is easy to handle. If only there was a unit of measurement that was already like that.

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  • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I might catch flak for this, but I understand Fahrenheit made a ton of sense of an illiterate bygone era (well, I guess coming back maybe)

    The vast majority of people were uneducated. Decimals were a non-starter, maybe negatives were also difficult?

    0-100 was very easy. Under 0? Don’t go outside if possible. Over 100? Don’t go outside if possible. >50/halfway? Time for a coat. Having the same scale from -15 to 40 might have been confusing and not centered for them?

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  • Cort@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No they’re relating average earth temperature/weather to a centigrade scale, instead of relating liquid water to one.

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    • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “Average earth temperature”? Lmao

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    • uienia@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It is not average Earth temperature though.

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    • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Average is one number, not a range. Do you mean standard deviation?

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• Brainsploosh@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  ITT: Water requires over double of all the hot just to boil.

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  • lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The % is for humans not water. Anything over 100 is too hot.

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    • gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨50⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Humans use water.

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• MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Except what is cold/hot varies from person to person.

  Water is more consistent.

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  • lauha@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    37 isn’t really hot yet. It’s warm. It’s around 50 degrees when it starts feeling too hot to touch.

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    • Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      37 isn’t really hot yet.

      Tell me how you feel when your body heats up just a bit, from 37 to 40. Sweating? Shivering? Hot and cold waves?

      As always, it depends on the context and on the individual

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• akfdmfckwrl@feddit.dk ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  In that case, you should change the scale to match how hot/cold it actually gets outside. In many parts of the world, and even in North America, it regularly goes below 0F or above 100F.

  “How hot it feels” is highly subjective. I would absolutely melt at 100F but feel fine at 0F, and nothing feels colder than those rainy windy days when it’s 5C outside.

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  • ouRKaoS@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Going above/below the scale just means that the weather is too hot/cold to do anything.

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    • akfdmfckwrl@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I do outdoors stuff even when it’s -20C but find it difficult to get anything done at 25C, never mind 37C.

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  • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    but feel fine at 0F

    Granted electricity is more complicated than a coat, but you absolutely need tools to feel “fine” at either temperature. Humans don’t survive at 0F without fire or clothes, whereas 100F just needs a water supply. In the modern world this translates to a shelter with heating vs AC

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    • akfdmfckwrl@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Yes, I wear clothes to feel fine at 0F, and I also need to wear clothes to feel fine at 50F. 85F is unbearable, and I would seriously consider moving north, if it regularly got that hot where I live.

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• Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  0 hot? So what about when it’s -40?

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  • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    -40% hot, that’s pretty damn cold!

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  • hoch@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    0% hot = 100% cold

    so

    -40 hot = 140% cold

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    • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If it gets hot this year I’m going to go off to my partner about how its almost 0% cold.

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    • Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Sounds like girl math. 😜

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  • adarza@lemmy.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    that’s when the two scales collide…

    -40FC…

    ‘fucking cold’

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    • db2@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Can confirm this is accurate.

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  • kinsnik@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    funnily, the same as -40 C

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    • Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yes, intentional.

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  • makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I understand you’re being sassy but below zero you do start saying “no but seriously, how can it be this cold?” Zero is about the lower limit before temperature stops being distinguishable and just becomes cold

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    • Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      T he ere is a BIG difference between 0F, -20F and -40F. And as someone that has worked in areas that has often seen -60F, -20F feels like spring in comparison.

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    • uienia@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Spoken like somebody who doesn’t experience freezing degrees very often.

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  • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Humans shouldn’t exist in zones outside 0-100

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• AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Ummmm? Well technically you can describe celsius as 0 being 0% boiling and 100 being 100% boiling with water. And it actually works pretty well because the hotter it is, the more it evaporates. Tho pretty sure its not linear and also thats a stupid way of saying it anyways.

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• realitista@lemmus.org ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I mean, he’s not wrong. Celsius is about how hot water is. As someone who has lived half my life on each continent and uses Celsius for everything, I do still think that Fahrenheit is a better unit to use for weather while Celsius is better for everything else. But using 2 units is dumb so Celsius it is.

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  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Fahrenheit is about how hot water is, and how cold brine is, and how 180 is highly factorable. Celsius is about how hot water is and how 100 is nice in base 10.

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  • uienia@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They are indeed very wrong. Their percentage is gauged for a very specific climate, and is entirely subjective. You may personally and subjectively think it suits you, but it is not objectively a better unit to use for weather in the slightest. It would make no sense where I live for example.

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• moopet@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The stupidest thing about this that I always go on about is that they’re saying the better scale is the one that goes from 0 to 100. i.e. metric. So why not use that for other measurements?

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  • PugJesus@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Switching hard 😔

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• Archangel1313@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Ummm… doesn’t this description actually fit better with celsius? 0% hot is frozen. 100% hot is boiling. No?

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  • WolfLink@sh.itjust.works ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    When the weather is 100% hot outside how hot is it?

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    • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It means sauna is ready 

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    • Archangel1313@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That depends entirely on who you ask.

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  • QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    are you water?

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    • Archangel1313@lemmy.ca ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Mostly, yes.

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• Randynippletwist@lemmynsfw.com ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That fear is them realizing they are trapped talking to a clown who proudly is grinding 100 hours at work every week.

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• harmbugler@piefed.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Is reading this what having a stroke feels like?

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• TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Percentage of what motherfucker?

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  • Mr_Fish@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Hot” I believe

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• alsimoneau@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Except 100F is the temperature of a horse, so does that mean you find horses to move maximally hot?

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• flowers_galore2@lemmynsfw.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  My face has more wat than a wat granny wat

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• gigastasio@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  With Fahrenheit, there are 180 units of degree measurement between the freezing and boiling point of water. With Celsius, there are only 100. For me this makes Fahrenheit preferable, as its units are smaller and allow for finer temperature measurement and adjustment.

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• sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  These threads always make me laugh. Maybe because of the way/where I was raised I really don’t care at all what anyone uses.

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• BallShapedMan@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I read somewhere that 0F is roughly the freezing temperature of sea water where 0C is the freezing temperature of fresh water. As England is an island I see the value in the freezing temperature of sea water at the time.

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