That thing would already have a broken cracked screen if that was mine and it started displaying ads.
What a fucking dystopia
Refrigerator ads are finally here!
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cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
expatriado@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You probably wouldn’t make the initial mistake of buying a fridge with a fixed tabled
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I still haven’t understood why people bought those. What it does a screen in my fucking fridge do any good for me?
heavy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Now you know to think twice before buying Samsung anything
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Samsung recently released UI 8 for Android, which had the astounding forward-thinking and innovative move of removing the ability to silence your phone by hitting the volume down button
idk what phone I’m gonna buy next, but that’s the last straw with Samsung for me. I’m already sick of them changing features on the phone to make them worse, like how in order to do a partial screenshot (a feature I used to use a lot) you now need to click the button and wait a few seconds for the “AI” to think about what portion of the screen to select. you cannot skip this waiting period. you cannot disable this (that I have found). you cannot ‘undo’ when you draw a box around a section that includes text and it tries to helpfully extract the text for you instead of just fucking taking a screenshot of the highlighted portion of the screen
fuck Samsung
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I like my Motorola it’s on the cheaper side but it has an AUX and a disturbingly good battery. Still android so you have to deal with BS, but hey the slightly better model has an microSD card slot so that’s good I guess.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If you’re that fed up, may as well buy an iPhone and root/flash the thing to a custom OS, or another Samsung, and do the same thing. Those brands have consistently had the best hardware, so if you’re gonna just nuke the software anyway, which is your best option, may as well get the hardware that you want.
Harvey656@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh thank fuck I disabled updates holy hell my phone would be in a billion pieces and my wife would kill me for destroying my phone.
Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
It’s a smart fridge; they didn’t even think once when they bought it
titanicx@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I don’t know there are a lot of features on a smart fridge that are pretty cool a lot of things that actually can come in handy that I really appreciate it when I considered purchasing one. I’m glad that I didn’t make the purchase before they came out with this idiotic bullshit.
pyre@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
i think eventually we’re gonna have to deal with the reality that audio/video advertising needs to be outlawed. keep it in print if necessary.
Honytawk@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Why does there still need to be advertisements though?
I’d completely ban marketing altogether. Their only purpose is to hack human brains in order to get them to buy stuff they otherwise wouldn’t. They are the reason we have overconsumption.
Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Start with the example of the city of São Paulo, the 4th largest city in the world, which banned all outdoor advertising many years ago: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cidade_Limpa
tmyakal@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
How would you even do that? Marketing is tied up into every single purchasing decision we make. The colors and fonts on the packaging; the perceived value or luxury of the store you’re buying it from; the placement of the products within that store; the price of the product itself. All of these signal things about the perceived value of the product and influence what people purchase.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 weeks ago
There are some things I want to know about that may or may not be considered advertising. Stuff like a band I like going on tour, or a video game I’m interested in releasing.
Maybe in your world those could just be like opt-in newsletters.
balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Banning “marketing” in general is impossible. In order for humans to survive, we need to acquire means of sustenance. With division of labor, you cannot acquire all the means of sustenance you need by yourself or within your local community. As such, a market is necessary to exchange commodities, including means of sustenance and means of production, and the mere act of bringing a commodity to a market is, by definition, marketing.
Banning advertising in general is more possible, but probably a bad idea. Imagine you want to buy bread. How would you go about that? Look for a “bakery” sign? Whoops, that’s advertising, can’t have that. Your best bet then is, like, going into every single open door on the street until you find a bakery, which doesn’t sound good at all.
What we should do is regulate advertising down to its minimum necessary function, which is helping people find what they are already looking for, plus maybe PSA type of ads (e.g. reminding you to get vaccinated and stuff). So yeah, most modern ads should be banned, but some should be kept because there is some actual use in them.
pyre@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I think allowing print and physical media would enable using signs outside your building, use branding on your documents, etc. plus make it more valuable for the already dying media of print, and also pretty much make advertising an opt in situation since you can choose to engage in it, rather than having something like the fucking sphere blazed into your retina with the power of 15 suns in the middle of the night.
SpiderUnderUrBed@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I disagree. I think that’s far too extreme, there shouldn’t be blanket bans because big tech ruins it for everyone, it harms stuff like minor indie creators or small buisnesses, that being said it needs to be HEAVILY regulated, like fridges should never have ads nor any smart appliance
FosterMolasses@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
How about… we go a step further and just stop making appliances “smart”?
My toaster doesn’t need AI to tell the difference between a fucking bagel and a slice of bread. They already figured out solutions to this shit decades ago.
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I don’t think a content provider should be allowed to have more than 5-10% of their content be advertisements.
Website screen space, newspapers, tv channels, etc
Instagram shouldn’t have more than 1-2 sponsored post for every 20 posts. At the moment it seems closer to 10.
An hour long TV slot shouldn’t have more than 3-6 minutes of advertisement. At the moment it’s closer to 20-30.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What about QVC tho
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
It could be moved onto a special “reservation” where it could continue to live in its own way, with its ancient customs and traditions.
CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Wow. Not even a tasteful design, just turning the fridge into a full fledged highway billboard. Disgusting.
jonne@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
At least it’s static. They could’ve done a constant animation for maximal annoyance while you’re trying to focus on cutting onions.
CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I’m sure it’s in the pipeline, with sound. Gonna have our appliances acting like gas pumps do.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Have you used one of those gas pumps with a screen recently? That’s definitely where it’s going.
thingAmaBob@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Please stop buying these & they will stop making them.
Soup@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is capitalism, they will stop making the normal fridges and only make these fucking things. The only power customers truly have is through regulation(though we should still boycott things because it still helps).
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Then people will claim no one was buying the normal ones. /looks at light trucks and smartphones with a headphone jack
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
In which case a new industry appears that makes smart appliances stupid.
sureshot@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
That’s not really true, we’re at the point where oligarchs basically have the unlimited money glitch, they don’t give a fuck about what the consumers ask for and just demand that we want things that help them screw us over. That’s why every job and every application process demands that prospective employees have their own car and their own smartphone.
mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Appliance repair man here. You can turn the screen off from a cover you remove from the top of the fridge door. Do so. You don’t need a fucking android tablet on your fridge.
Also don’t buy these kinds of appliances. They’re terrible!
Raiderkev@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah man, I’ll take my 1990’s ass GE fridge I got for free over one of these any day.
mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s a significantly better fridge in every way a lot of my clients have a really hard time understanding or believing that.
hydroxycotton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Are there any brands that are total shite these days? We are gonna have to replace our crappy Samsung fridge from 2013 soon.
odelik@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Bosch makes a few descent models.
Things to skip on all brands.
External water & ice dispensers,doesnt matter the brand. You’re cutting a fucking hole in the thermal envelope to put a faulty device that’s experince ing mechanic stress on parts every time you open/close the door. It’s not a matter of if it will fail, but when. Also, increased operational cost. Internal water dispensers and automatic ice makers are always the better option if you want those features.
Smart features. Why the fuck do yiu need smart features on my fridge? Even if it’s using AI vision to scan for recorders… Just no, fucking no. That’s more personal data on you to be bought, sold, data breached, and utilized to fuck you somehow.
Fridges that split the freezer and fridge on a vertically.
Zanathos@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I just bought this one a couple months ago. It goes on sale frequently for $2K from Lowe’s: www.lowes.com/pd/…/5013313509
Pretty sure we got an RMA for the first unit as the door had a scratch and the compressor fan sounded high pitched. Got a next day replacement and no complaints on the second one. Was concerned about sqft as we were coming from a 25sqft but am surprisingly happy with this one.
mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If you’re in the states you’ve probably had the ice maker replaced in that fridge.
I wouldn’t expect it to last much longer definitely count on it breaking down at some point in the very near future.
Cricket@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I’ve heard that appliances in general and refrigerators specifically, from the last many years are crap. I don’t know what the cut off date is, but I hear that they’re generally made to break after a few years now and don’t have replacement parts for very long. @mechoman444@lemmy.world may have a more informed answer, but it seems to me that people are better off buying old fridges used from friends or relatives.
Psythik@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What the fuck do they even do? I thought they were supposed to scan the ingredients in your fridge, then tell you what’s about to expire and what recipes you can make. But apparently they can’t even do that, so what purpose do they serve that I can’t already accomplish by bringing my phone into the kitchen?
Can they at least monitor the temperature across different areas of the fridge, or connect to my power meter like my thermostat can and optimize power usage to be lower when electricity is more expensive? Or are they literally just an Android tablet glued to a fridge?
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Or are they literally just an Android tablet glued to a fridge?
Yes
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Your first mistake was buying anything Samsung.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
How long before the fridge’s compressor swells up and explodes
Draegur@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
You joke but Samsung fridge compressors ARE notorious for catastrophic mechanical failure.
A fridge on fire is, like, literally the opposite of what a fridge should do >.>;;;
sefra1@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I would like to agree, unfortunately Samsung still gives the longest updates on sub 150 euro phones.
But yeah, why does a refrigerator needs a screen in the first place? My white branded fridge must be nearing at least 15 years old, could use new rubber but apart from what still working perfectly.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My place came with samsung laundry machines. I’ve already regretted it.
insomniac199@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This. 100%
blackjam_alex@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Samsung appliances used to be durable.
I had a Samsung washing machine for about two decades. We deciced to replace it with another Samsung, it already has a big crack in the plastic after a year of use and the top is all scratched just by dragging the clothes out.
oppy1984@lemdro.id 2 weeks ago
Speed Queen, my parents bought one in 1992 and it lasted over 20 years with almost no issues. When it finally started needing regular maintenance mom replaced it and got another Speed Queen, ten years later not a single issue yet.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
Damn, South Korean industry really going the way of American car manufacturing, huh?
InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Kill it with fire.
roofuskit@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Disconnect it from ty Internet for starters. Why else would a company want to sell you a fridge with a screen?
Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
What can you even do on an un-networked fridge screen? Play bejeweled while contemplating suicide?
ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
A hear ago I found out y TV didn’t even have a “Forget this network” button. You had to
- Make a new WiFi network
- Connect it to that
- Turn off new WiFi network
In order to disconnect it. I went down this road because every time I watched a Blu RAY, it would pop-up an ad saying “HERE ARE OTHER WAYS YOU COULD WATCH THIS MOVIE YOU OBVIOUSLY DON’T NEED!”
falseWhite@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Why does a fridge need a screen to begin with?
Sv443@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
To justify the constant upcharges
scytale@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
The best part about this is it’s an ad for Pluribus, where without spoiling anything, a message like that would absolutely work in the show.
blitzen@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
It is a perfectly placed ad.
P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Honestly, it’d work in the 5th element, or judge dredd, total recall, Cyberpunk 2077, the outer worlds, etc.
bored_boar_onboard@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Bravo, Vince!
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
by the way the fridge cost 1800$
Osan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wait why the fuck would a fridge be connected to the internet?
Aeri@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m not defending this practice because it’s remarkably awful but I will note that I have a router that lets me monitor the traffic that individual devices use and most smart devices like this actually use incredibly small amounts of bandwidth. Our smart water tank uses ~10 MB a month which is smaller than most images.
And yes I do think a smart water tank is valid because it can do shit like tell me when it thinks it’s about to explode or leak or whatever and it can also like, be remote controlled, and it has a heat pump which is nice.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Recently I read an article about smart devices uploading and downloading over 1GB per day. I tried to find the article again but all I can find is stores selling smart fridges etc. Search engines are broken. I asked chatgpt, which was able to find articles. How fucked is this. Boring dystopia. Anyway, here are some sources.
tomshardware.com/…/your-washing-machine-could-be-…
www.reddit.com/r/smarthome/s/F5ETernz6f
www.reddit.com/r/SmartThings/s/HY2E0uOBiH
In the following article they talk about devices sending up to 19MB per week, but only text (so again insane amounts of data considering it’s only text).
consumerreports.org/…/smart-appliances-and-privac…
The following is about researchers finding lots of thirst party domains when analyzing IoT traffic from Smart devices.
The following is an academic paper on how even encrypted data isn’t safe from Smart devices. Bit off topic, but still interesting.
dil@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Fridge with ads should be 1/3 the price with free repairs
Waldelfe@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Oh no, who could have ever seen that coming?
Now wait for the subscription service to get rid of ads on the fridge you bought and “own”. Oh, and that neat thing they do with cars now where you have to subscribe to get certain feature? That’s also next. "Only
5$10$20$ per month to keep your fridge cool enough so the milk won’t spoil! It’s not a normal function of the fridge, it’s our super special anti-bacterial option that costs extra.Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I’m ready to move to a commune. But like… not a hippie Luddite commune that shirks all technology. Just one that isn’t fucking insane about the tech in their lives. basically one that rewinds a bit back towards maybe the early to mid 2000s. Where we had a of the tech in a still mostly uncorrupted form.
Its like “the village” for people who are utterly exhausted by corporate greed. Someone get M. Night Shammalamma or whatever on the phone.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sunflier@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Can’t wait to see this come to the dadh boards of modern cars. Oh? You’re trying to reverse and make use of your rear-view camera? Watch this 2 minute unskippable ad first.
graycube@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Is it AI powered too?
Diddlydee@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
What is the purpose of a screen on a fridge? Is this common (without the ads)?
If not, how would you not notice when you buy it. You’d need to be utterly oblivious.
Maybe they just have unnecessarily contrived fridges where this person is.
Nangijala@feddit.dk 2 weeks ago
I have seen a video about this shit also being implemented in cars. You can drive down the highway, with your GPS on and a pop up ad appears out of the blue, blocking the screen, not really allowing you to get rid of it before you remove your attention from the road to the screen, trying to figure out what button to push to get rid of the ad.
And the fact that people pay extra for cars and fridges to show them ads is just so friggin stupid. If people buy these products after knowing that they pay extra to be bombarded with ads, its 100% on them.
But in the case of the car, I do feel that shit should be illegal. It’s so fucking dangerous and irresponsible from the manufacturer to implement a “feature” that can cost lives.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
By 2030 everyone’s kitchen will look like fucking Times Square
The stairs to your basement will look like the London Underground. We’re going down the fucking tube…
Zier@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
Thank god fridges have ads now. I have been so unhappy not knowing what to purchase every day of my life. Now my fridge can tell me all the things I should purchase to fill up my home and go so deep into debt that I will be homeless.
Thanks Samsung, I was too stupid to do this without you.
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/shotdogcharmer@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Why on earth would anybody buy a fridge with a screen? Why does everything have to be screens? Why is it all one big mobile phone nowadays? Can’t we just not be staring gormlessly into a flashing screen for two fucking seconds for a fucking change??? I just got back inside from a run and now I’m going outside again for a walk in the dark and the rain because there is an entire world out there that isn’t an algorithmically driven advertising funnel trying to shove more bullshit down our eager eyes, ears, and throats.
Although, while I’m on the subject, the outside world is fucking chock full of ads. I’ve heard it’s relatively trivial to open those advertising windows on bus stops - does anybody know if it would be illegal to open one up and simply place a large black sheet of paper or something in there to cover up the ads? Not damage the ads or remove (i.e. steal) them, but just cover them up to give ourselves and our communities a break from the relentless marketers in our midst?
We deserve not have to our senses monetised and weaponised by perverts who cum themselves dry over CTRs, CLVs, CPCs, SEO, Brand Loyalty, Funnels, and Strategies, Local SEO, whatever else. We deserve to be able to look in any direction when we’re outside and for five minutes not have some massive gaudy advert designed by a bellend pushed into view.
And as for fucking User Personas? I’ve got a User Persona for you, you sick advertising creeps. It’s my fucking ballsack.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Start watching
On what, the fucking fridge?
RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I never connect smart shit to my internet but I’m sure eventually they won’t function until you do.
OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I already decided to stop buying Samsung TVs when they started showing ads in the menus.
I imagine other consumers will start to make similar choices with their appliances.
Whatever exec thought this was a good idea probably already got a huge bonus and will move on to ruin another company’s products before the impact to their bottom line is felt.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So, if I bought this at Costco, and the fridge was 10 years old, I’d use their guarantee to return the motherfucker and make a huge fucking scene if they tried to refuse.
logicbomb@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Imagine that. You not only paid for the refrigerator, but also the electricity and the internet access. And it uses all of that stuff to display ads to you. You’re literally paying for every ad it shows you.
thurstylark@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
That’s exactly the thing that turned me off cable. I’m not interested in paying for a service that’s going to pipe ads into my home. OTA TV, fine, I’m not paying for that. When I can pay for services that don’t show me ads, why would I pay for one that does?
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Don’t worry, they are gradually taking that option away too.
solrize@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Joke’s on you: product placement in movies. The ads are already there.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Yeah, but you end up paying extra to not see ads, so… it’s the same thing either way.
caboose2006@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If you paid me just 5 bucks a month I’d let them install that fridge in my house.
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yeah, I might accept that.
Actually, I could use a new fridge…
Ok, who wants to pay me a subscription fee to give me a fridge? Get in line, I’ll only be accepting applicants today!
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s a good point actually. You can eliminate these ads by taking it off the Wi-Fi.
Honytawk@feddit.nl 2 weeks ago
Why you’d connect it to the internet in the first place is a mystery to me
0_0j@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Now who’s the patsie