Submitted 2 months ago by Mickey7@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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She has no points
A) women are voluntarily driving 100% of demand for this drug B) if we could make it for guys, we would. C) if we did unplanned pregnancies would dry up and women’s power/control of birth would change vastly for the first time in our biological history.
This screen shot is meaningless kindergarten thinking.
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YCT-529 just passed human safety trials last July. Its coming … so men won’t be.
Been hearing that for 30 years. That and the rapture is tomorrow. And aliens coming the day after that.
That’s not birth control that’s just like having a vasectomy. The big power of birth control is that it works after the fact so if you wake up in the morning and you realise you’ve made a mistake, you have options.
9 times per day… So ok. You know how women love to give men shit for having a poor understanding is basic female biology? This is that.
Maybe you should just count yourself lucky that you get to control your own fertility. In civilized countries at least.
That’s quickly coming to an end.
I think it’s the civilised that’s coming to an end.
All I’m seeing is I can seed my own country if I try hard enough.
Ok Musk.
Pff that lazy fuck pays someone else to do the work for him like for everything else
Centuries of discounting female medical concerns and avoiding anything that would even inconvenience men are why we’re here.
Lol this is so dumb
Nice try mr. pervert, you were trying to make me think about a woman nine months pregnant getting plowed nine times in a row.
Up vote
You wrote that comment so they accomplished that started goal of making you think about it
I’m pretty sure the birth control pill is for women because that was easy to do. A pill for men has been tried several times and they still don’t exist yet.
correction: easy to do *if you don’t care about side-effects or undermine the population taking said pill when they tall about the huge impact on their life the reason the pill for men "has been tried several times and still doesn’t exist isn’t because it’s that much harder, but because it’s harder to do with minimal side-effects the impact the pill had on generations of women is massive and completely underestimated today still
They just don’t care about the side effects for their “property”.
Yeah, and me taking a man pill doesn’t stop the lady getting pregnant if some other guys didn’t bother to take it. It does make sense for the woman to protect herself from douchebags
Let’s say you save exactly one pill and it works on anyone. Also assume 100% pregnancy rate, so if you are paired with someone and neither have the pill, then it’s an automatic pregnancy. Our goal is to minimize number of pregnancies.
As far as I’m aware, the real world operates most like a mixture of “Traditional” and “Cliques”. At least, in places where birth control is an option. But in the real world, we have more than one pill.
If we have enough for either all males or all females, then the effect is the same regardless of who gets the pill. It will always lead to 100% pregnancy reduction.
Let’s say we have enough pills for all but one male, or all but one female.
So with the goal of minimizing pregnancies, it either makes no difference or is optimal to have the pill on women (unless you’re in a harem). This is highly reductive though. We have many other considerations when deciding who should get access to birth control.
I applaud your dedication to this thought.
I needed to know if there was any validity to the claim. And if I’m doing the work anyway, I might as well share it.
Upvote for the dedication in writing this reply
Condoms?
Those also protect both people from possible other hidden cooties.
If 2,434 ladies want to test this out then hmu
I saw on Google that there are this many in your local area waiting to meet you.
All crammed into a clown car
I looked into this but the ads are a lie.
There are only 1,789 hot local women that want to meet me.
I have tried my very best with partners, but 9 times a day? Even with the most willing partner I’m not man enough for that!
I tried 4 times in a 24 hour period once with a partner and we were both far too sore to finish the last time. Maybe if we did so more regularly we might have been able to do it but the flesh is weaker than the spirit a lot of times
Sometimes we need to fly solo, but not sure that would have helped me in the same scenario
Even as a kid, my record was 5 wanks in a day.
These are crucial personal data points that we can always recall
MrSulu, you stud! I heard that gay men get more sex, but that’s a bold attempt. Does Brad now about this?!
My reality is not achieve the leaderboard of the adolescent imaginations.
The trick is not to cum. Then you can last all day.
Generic image of attractive woman with text meme.
I’m sure this is well thought through and factual.
There have been attempts, but as far as I know they stopped due to safety issues. But I could be wrong.
Vasalgel/Risug(?) have shown promising results in tests in India iirc, but the last time I checked there was almost no momentum in getting it FDA approved. It is as far as I know, 100% effective and only required administrating once. The materials used to create it are cheaper than the syringe. Why is it not making more headway? Because it eliminates profits (like ongoing prescriptions would provide) for pharmaceuticals.
I’ve been hoping for it to become widely available since first reading about it somewhere south of 2010. But I guess it would need to become easily manufacturable in local pharmacies for procedure to become widespread.
Last time I read about it had some issues, like the material stopped blocking way earlier than anticipated
If there was a reversible, drug-based intervention for males that prevented impregnation that shit would be given away for free on every street corner and it’s universal availability guaranteed by Constitutional Amendment lol
And Women wouldn’t trust a man has taken it because, ultimately, they’re the ones who become pregnant not men.
While companies have looked into male drug-based contraceptives, ultimately even if it were 100% effective, it would never beat female drug-based contraceptives. It’d have a market sure - but it wouldn’t stop women taking birth-control because it’d be the only way from them to be sure.
They’ve tried, but they can’t get FDA approval because the men in the clinical trials aren’t able to tolerate the side effects that pale in comparison to common side effects of hormonal birth control for women.
They stopped that one trial because a participant tried to kill himself and that’s basically the only real trial that was ever done with a larger number of participants.
Lemmy is left but also male, according to the salty responses lol
How many ‘man bad’ posts do we need?
I always end up so dissapointed by comments on lemmy, but you know
men should wear condoms, it’s not that complicated, and they help prevent spreading STI
p.s. get an sti test
That’s not true … there are also trans women here.
I know a lot of people who take birth control pills to regulate their bodies rather than prevent pregnancy.
Back when I was younger and on the road all the time I would have loved to have a pill that guaranteed I didn’t have a critical hit. But even at my peak nine times a day would have had me pushing rope.
Excuse me, but birth control is not just a pill, it’s the entire process that includes putting on a condom. And it’s expected of guys to use condoms.
Besides that, there are pills and procedures a guy can do as birth control.
Sex not gender.
And no she isn’t
classic engineering mistake, trying to fix the problem where it occurs (baby popps out), instead of where it originates (baby gets put in). Can’t be too mad at them for that. Everyone makes that mistake when they start out.
That’s not how engineering works. That’s like saying that you don’t need gas release valves you just need to never over pressure the line. Now obviously the objective is to never over pressure the line, but it’s good to have contingencies in place in case it happens.
You could equally say that you don’t need to be on birth control if you just always use condom but sometimes they fail.
Nah, engineering wise you can’t verify if a man actually has taken a pill and the sad reality is that women get stuck with the child and abortion rights are under attack. It’s like trying to implement authorization without any way to verify that the user is actually authorized. You can’t just go on vibes alone.
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Did someone call women females? Where’s the angry mob ready to crucify this heretic?
I always get the biggest laugh when some clown screams “how dare you use the word female”.
Condoms?
Women still need access to birth control in order to remain autonomous, but this is a great point.
The issue with pills for the man is, that he should still be able to get hard and produce (inactive) sperm, while for the woman it’s relatively simple.
And you forgot condoms, no?
Well to be fair they are trying to make male protection pills
Brilliant!
Also, I’d like to see this brainiac figure out how to kill many million sperm instead of just one ovum, with a pill. Surely that should be easier, but there’s an anti-woke male patriarchy conspiracy, amirite?
All you need is a white labcoat, goggles, some vials, a pocket calculator and clipboard and BOOM… Science, Bitch! Surely the “EUREKA!” moment should happen within a couple of months, but it is being kept from us! The male patriarchy is yadda yadda whatever… and here’s an extra yadda for good measure!
Disclaimer: I had a vasectomy.
But still, this person is under-educated in the same school system that spits out maga-types on the opposite side of the political spectrum.
This is yet another symptom of the severe under-education that Carl Sagan warned us about in The Demon-Haunted World: Science As A Candle In The Dark. The kind of under-informed, holier-than-thou attitude that lets fascism through the front door, because…
bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRitE
The same fascists, religious batshit zealots and incels who want women OUT of schools, OUT of the workplace, they want them IN the kitchen, illiterate, barefoot and pregnant: “That should keep them under our thumb!”
EXACTLY like it happens now in places like Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia.
She’s giving that one man an awful lot of credit assuming he can shoot a bullseye 9 times a day 365 days a year.
It’s because trying to shut down what millions of sperm production a day is hard. Even one gets through and your product fails.
Furbag@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Just FYI after the 5th one I’m just cumming air at that point, but if there are 2,430 women out there who want to give it a try anyway be my guest.
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 1 month ago
You also get a hydro homie whose sole job is to keep you hydrated and keep giving you zinc suppliments