Gorilladrums

@Gorilladrums@lemmy.world

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨In 6 hours it will be illegal to say "I support Palestine Action" in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison.⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:

  The Nazis also came to power democratically.

  That’s not how it works. You can’t scream Nazis any time any government does anything. That’s not what fascism is nor is it what tyranny is. You’re just devaluing the meaning of these terms and showcasing your ignorance.

  Just because something is a law doesn’t mean anything.

  On the contrary, it matters a lot. The very foundation of liberal democracies is based on the idea that laws are everything. Nobody is above the law, everybody is equal in the eyes of the law, and the law is the public’s will. You can agree or disagree with individual laws, however, that doesn’t change the facts that laws are the source of legitimacy.

  The UK here isn’t ignoring it’s laws, it’s not creating new laws to target specific groups, nor is it using these laws to wrongly punish people who did nothing wrong. Their terrorism laws have been created by democratically elected politicians who reflect the will of their people, the laws they created and voted upon are universal and well defined, and these laws have been established law for decades.

  This groups intentionally violated these laws, they knew what they were doing, and now they’re facing the consequences of their actions. This isn’t tyranny, this is a normal society punishing criminals for breaking the law. This also law isn’t immoral because it seeks to ban harmful behavior in a fair and universal manner, and the punishments for these violations are all reasonable.

  It’s also quite telling if your national security is tied to genociding children.

  You don’t seem to get it. Being self righteous doesn’t give a free pass to be a terrorist no matter how you noble you think your cause is. If you excuse terrorism based on your ideological biases, then you don’t even have any ground to stand on because your position isn’t a principled one. No country is dumb enough to excuse group seeking to undermine their authority, damage public property, threaten national security, violate their laws, and sabotage public property, and rightfully so because they’ll be inviting chaos, violence, and instability into their societies.

  If they gave this group a pass then they’ll be setting a precedent that other self righteous groups can get away with terrorism if they act like their cause is noble enough to be above the law. What kind of disastrous future would that bring? Are Russian Sympathizers now excused to go bomb the parliament when it’s out session because they don’t like the UK supporting Ukraine? Are Chinese sympathizers now excused to damage the London Bridge because the UK supports Taiwan and Tibet? Are a far right groups excused to sabotage the PJHQ because the UK supports immigration? Of course not, because that would be really, really stupid. If you do something wrong, you’re going face the consequences for it, simple as.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨In 6 hours it will be illegal to say "I support Palestine Action" in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison.⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:

  But this is your personal opinion, and I happen to disagree with it. Your only point of contention here is not the act itself, just the terrorism label. Personally, I think you’re focusing on the wrong things. The UK is a democratic country and the people voted in politicians that established their terrorism laws. These laws have been established law for decades, and thus, these laws are reflection of what terrorism mean to the British people. It’s their definition, their laws, their punishments. This groups intentionally violated them for a political cause, they know they were going to face consequences for doing so, and they are.

  The only way this becomes an issue if this standard is not applied universally or equally, which doesn’t appear to be the case. The UK is not using terrorism laws to wrongly accuse other groups who didn’t do anything of terrorism, they’re not censoring people who advocate for the Palestinian cause because of this incident, and both the punishment this group is facing fits the crime in accordance with their laws. I don’t see an issue here tbh

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨In 6 hours it will be illegal to say "I support Palestine Action" in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison.⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:

  There’s literally nothing tyrannical about this situation.

  On one hand, you have a democratic country, the UK, that has voted in a set of well defined laws that clearly outline what terrorism means, what can be considered as terrorism, and what the consequences are for terrorist acts. These legal parameters have been established law for decades.

  On the other hand, you have an activist group, Palestinian Action, that knowing and intentionally chose to violate these laws by illegally sneaking into an RAF base and intentionally damaging military equipment for political purposes.

  Considering how this is a malicious act of sabotage, a breach of national security, and an attempt to undermine the British state, this organization fits the criteria to be designated as a terrorist group. Because of this British politicians, quickly employed the established terrorism laws to give them the designation. Not only because what they did is considered terrorism in the country, but also because they don’t want to set a precedent that this type of action gets a pass. They wanted to make it clear that such actions are an unacceptable red line, and those who cross will be swiftly punished.

  So in essence. There were laws established democratically, a group intentionally violated them, and they’re now facing the consequences of doing so. The UK is not censoring their activism cause, they’re going after other groups that didn’t do anything wrong, and this group is not being punished over any free speech grounds. Calling this tyranny is ignorance.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨In 6 hours it will be illegal to say "I support Palestine Action" in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison.⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:

  I think it has less to do with the property damage and more to do with the implications of the incident and the intent behind it.

  You have a group of people who premeditated a plan to sneak into a highly secured RAF airbase without proper authorization with the intention to damage military equipment owned by the state. This is a major breach of national security, it is an act of sabotage, and it causes direct harm to the British state as it’s a direct attempt to undermine the country’s military capabilities for political purposes.

  That’s very good grounds to label the organization responsible as terrorist group. Keep in mind, agreeing or disagreeing with the cause of the activists is irrelevant here. You have to think about things from the point of the view of the state. If an attack like this doesn’t get properly punished, then what kind of precedent would that set? Does any self righteous group get a free pass to damage public property and undermine national security? The state cannot allow such avenues of instability to take hold. A red line has to be firmly set, and those who cross it have to face consquences.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨In 6 hours it will be illegal to say "I support Palestine Action" in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison.⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:

  The UK isn’t at war dingus.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨In 6 hours it will be illegal to say "I support Palestine Action" in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison.⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:

  Yes it does. In the UK, terrorism is defined more broadly, and the actions of this groups fall firmly within their legal definitions, hence why they were so swift with this designation.

  justice.org.uk/counter-terrorism-human-rights/

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨In 6 hours it will be illegal to say "I support Palestine Action" in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison.⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:

  Isn’t this the group that broke into a military airbase and damage several aircraft resulting in million of pounds worth of damages? I mean the security breach and the intent to maliciously damage the equipment is more than enough grounds to label the group as a terrorist group. If a right wing group or any other groups did this, everybody here would be calling them terrorists, and rightfully so. It makes sense for the UK to label this group as such, especially since they didn’t disavow the attack that happened.

  The people who are trying to frame this as an attack on free speech are either full of shit and intentionally spreading misinformation or they’re ignorant enough to get their information from people who are full of shit and intentionally misinformation. This is something that clearly has nothing to do with free speech.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨We really don't want to talk about our problems⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:

  I don’t think these two things are mutually exclusive

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Bitch shape attack⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:

  I will forever choose to die on the hill that tumblr humor is not funny

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨We really don't want to talk about our problems⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:

  Therapy has become the new buzzword to prescribe to any individualistic issue because most people don’t know what it is or who its for, they just think it’s a silver bullet solution to everything because everybody else says so… but it’s not.

  Therapy is great for specific people with specific disorders, it’s there to help provide these people with solutions and treatments to improve their conditions. It’s not meant to be a replacement for a social circle or to fix the problems in your life.

  Not to mention that therapy is either expensive or hard to access or the therapist you do get to see are usually not that great. It is very hard and very rare to find a good therapist that’s affordable and nearby. Even then, a therapist can only do so much. They’re trained to work through common disorders using several established methods, but not much beyond that. Therapists can help you overcome your anxiety, but they can’t help you find meaningful relationships.

  This is doubly true for men, because a lot of men are facing issues related to finding purpose and meaning in life, and that’s something that’s beyond the scope of therapy. Maybe these issues could be resolved as a result of treating a disorder, but that’s not always the case. The point is that therapy is not a magical solution, and it’s not going to solve huge societal problems like men turning their backs on society.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨You got it, buddy⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  I too quiz my partner on the anatomy of genitalia when we’re hanging out

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨PewDiePie: I'm DONE with Google⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  I don’t worship youtubers, I’m just not braindead enough to deny reality because of my myopic personal preferences. This guy has a 110 million subscribers and his every video has been getting millions of views for well over a decade now. He is one of the biggest and most well known people on the internet, and he has a lot of influence because of it. When this guy puts out a video about a cause, his point of view is going to introduced and adopted by a lot of people. In this case, he put out a video on a cause that people in here advocate for, and they’re pleasantly surprised that their views are getting this kind of exposure. You not understanding this obvious nuance is your problem, not anybody else’s.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨PewDiePie: I'm DONE with Google⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  “I’m incapable of understanding the nuance of someone with a lot of influence speaking out in favor of a topic I advocate for because I’m ignorant and judgemental towards certain activities and people who make a living off them”

  Yeah okay, bud. Good mentality you got there. But you’re right, this conversation is pointless, so let’s end it here.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨PewDiePie: I'm DONE with Google⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  This isn’t a random youtuber and his video isn’t clickbait. You not understanding why people are talking about him posting this video is not the same as these discussions being pointless or spam.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨PewDiePie: I'm DONE with Google⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Oh no, 4 different posts that were posted on 4 different communities on 4 different instancess, all of which are about the topic he’s talking about in the video… The horror

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨PewDiePie: I'm DONE with Google⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  The only people who have called this guy a nazi are terminally online far left jackoffs who get all their information from other jackoffs in the same echo chambers.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨PewDiePie: I'm DONE with Google⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  He’s one of the biggest and most loved youtube personalities. He has influence, and him saying this kind of stuff is a big deal. Pretending he’s a nobody shows that you’re simply ignorant.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨PewDiePie: I'm DONE with Google⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  That would literally be the best this to happen to this god forsaken platform. There isn’t nearly enough users, diversity of content, or sheer volume to make this place a genuine alternative to Reddit. Getting an influx from a huge youtuber like him means this place might finally get active communities for mainstream hobbies like sports, music, and videogames.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨PewDiePie: I'm DONE with Google⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Calling this guy an ass shows that you have no idea who he is. You’re probably the type of person who thinks they’re well informed but exclusively get their info from echo chambers like Lemmy.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨PewDiePie: I'm DONE with Google⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  He literally never did anything evil or bad. This is a myth that was entirely created by the far left, who falsely call everything fascist, despite never watching his content.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Socialism is the actual teaching of Jesus⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  From a theological point of view, Jesus was indeed a socialist. However, he wasn’t a socialist in a Marxist sense, he was a different kind of socialist. Christian socialism was actually has a very interesting history that goes back quite back in time.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨bisexual⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  I never understood biphobia, a bi person choosing to be in a relationship with you means that they chose you out of everybody. It should be a feeling of flattery, not paranoia.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨bisexual⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  I mean it’s obviously different from person to person, but the gay people I’ve met, especially lesbians, have a genuine irrational fear and hatred of bi people. They’re terrified that bi people will cheat on them or will leave them for straight people. They see them as straight people who are pretending to be gay rather than actually being bi.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨bisexual⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  The most biphobic people I’ve ever seen are gay people. They hate bi people more than your average straight homophobe hates gay people. It’s really weird.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Just one more⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  All the highways in Massachusetts are like this

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Just one more⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  That’s nasty

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨YouTube might slow down your videos if you block ads⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  I have revanced on my phone and adblock on my laptop so I don’t see ads on youtube on them, but I can’t get rid of the youtube ads on my smart TV so I’m forced to deal with the ads for now… and the contrast shows just how insufferable youtube has become. They’re so fucking aggressive with the ads now. I’m starting to get a full minute of unskippable ads for a 2 minute meme video. It’s completely ridiculous. Not only that but the number of skippable ads, short ads, or videos with just one ad are quickly decreasing. Youtube is destroying itself.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨YouTube might slow down your videos if you block ads⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Get Revanced or Newpipe or something like that. You get the same benefits you’re paying for, plus many that you aren’t, and it’s all for free. Not only that, but you’re not giving you’re money to Google.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Wise words⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  It is my firm opinion that all people are inherently stupid. We’re just apes that evolved to live in simple ape societies, but we somehow ended up living in insanely complex societies that are all interconnected with each other. It’s just too much for our ape brains to keep up with everything.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨We Should Immediately Nationalize SpaceX and Starlink⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  I mean companies can force him out by themselves if they’re pressured enough. Also all companies make unsuccessful business bets. What matters is that from a neutral third person point of view, these companies aren’t doing anything that they’re not supposed to be doing. They’re putting sectors of the American economy in danger of collapse, they’re not committing crimes left and right, and their services are satisfactory for most people.