There was a heartwarming essay in the NYT awhile back called “Why Dads Take Their Gay Sons to Hooters” by Peter Rothpletz.
This man is suffering
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sundray@lemmus.org 2 months ago
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That was brilliant. I thoroughly enjoyed that.
It reminded me I f my own faithful trip to hooters with a friend and his father.
I don’t think I know what was going on there, but I did feel like it was super awkward because they were talking about the waitress like she wasn’t there.
I mostly remember the wings we had were not very good.
Wings should not be battered with cornmeal. Though I don’t eat that much meat anymore.
turdcollector69@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Cornmeal is for seafood and okra. I am fully willing and committed to dying on this hill.
I never had the hooters experience, I had more of a “self-imposed secret conversation therapy” and being bi certainly helped to pass.
Lifelong identity issues and anxiety are worth it to avoid the travesty of cornmeal on chicken imo.
Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Thanks for linking that. Loved it.
klemptor@startrek.website 2 months ago
This made me smile :)
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
I’d be tempted in fiction to make Hooters a secret line of temples to Athena the way Nike outlets are… well… temples to Nike.
TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Great article.
Thebular@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That was a really good read. I never realized men taking their queer kids to hooters was a thing, good to know at least the servers had the kids’ backs
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 2 months ago
As much as I find the (“all men are terrible”/“not all men”) dynamic to be exhausting and stupid, men do have a major cultural problem.
bobo1900@startrek.website 2 months ago
Have been to Los Angeles for a short time with friends and of course we tried several fast foods. We decided to go to Hooters just for fun, but the food was surprisingly the most decent of those we tried, and also reasonably priced. Of course we could see a lot of creepy around us and it was a little unconfortable seeing some clearly underage girls just being there for their boobs.
The US really is a weird place…
Starski@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
The minimum age to work there is 18 since the workers often serve alcohol, so it’s highly unlikely you actually saw anyone underage working there.
bobo1900@startrek.website 2 months ago
Ok that makes sense, still didn’t look like so lol
ChaosMonkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Reminds me of that southpark episode…
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Does this man not know how to type “boobs” into a search engine?
camelbeard@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You can watch a video of someone eating an A5 wagyu steak, but I’d rather eat a less expensive steak myself. Pixels vs reality…
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No where near the same thing, you can’t touch either pair of boobs.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
His wife has parental controls on the home computer.
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 2 months ago
LOL
pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
a little scenery, if you catch my drift
You’re leaving a review for Hooters; there’s really no need for subtlety.
5too@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I honestly think that a large part of their appeal is that you can pretend to be subtle
TomMasz@piefed.social 2 months ago
Nothing like getting mediocre food served by a waitress who hates her job and regrets the life choices that led her to it.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
The good news is that some of them don’t hate their jobs, and appreciate the money and high tips without having to ride a pole.
Granted, it’s perspective in contrast to diner wait staff (a high-suicide job) and professional stripping (a high-turnover job) so still not great.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
“appreciate the money and high tips without having to ride a pole”
Says enough as a coping mechanism
TheBat@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Should’ve taken wife along smh
HorreC@lemmy.world 2 months ago
odd, who would have known that just being honest with your partner would be the best for you and them.
ch00f@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Porn is cheap. Don’t be a creep.
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
This is in no way condoning the practice, only describing why it happens, but a lot of dudes actually derive some kind of pleasure or satisfaction at knowing they’ve made someone else uncomfortable. That motivation generally steers them towards in-person interactions.
ch00f@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I always figured that the game was being a creep because it’s the easiest way to get a woman to interact with your or at least acknowledge your existence. Porn has solutions for that too.
Or maybe they do indeed just want to make women uncomfortable. Harder to do that with porn since porn actors tend to not be great non-porn actors.
Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
I don’t know what to think about this.
While I don’t intend to visit hooter, strip clubs or anything alike and I think people can be creeps even if they are acting completely within the consent of others.
But how is a man who wants to go to hooters a creep but a man who wants to consumes porn not? The exploitation of women in porn is arguably worse because while they consent to the recording (i mean if not… I don’t need to continue my point) oftentimes they sell all their rights and lose all control over the recording. Consequently there is no backing out if they no longer want to be seen like that. (Of course, there are other issues) If you work for hooters, you know wtf is going on before you were hired and if you quit, you are not longer exposed.
So what is creepy about hooters but not about porn?
Is it the simple fact that the man seeks out some kind of sexualized interact with the woman?
snooggums@piefed.world 2 months ago
So what is creepy about hooters but not about porn?
In general the difference is the in person interaction. While porn does have some direction interaction it is remote and there is far less direct control by the consumer.
ch00f@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The power dynamic between the porn actress and customer is different than between restaurant server and patron. The porn is filmed in a controlled environment, and even the live streams can be quit at any time. At a restaurant, the women are operating in a live environment, and their income is dependent on the patrons’ whims. The rules are fuzzy and you don’t know if your patron is going to understand the difference between friendly flirting and sexual attraction.
I got dragged to a strip club for a friend’s birthday. They were especially gross at the time in WA because you couldn’t drink at them. We were already drunk enough though.
Anyway, got a lap dance for $20. The first 30 seconds were the stripper explaining to me what I’m allowed to do. I.e. apparently you can rub your face on her boobs, but hands stay put. I’m sure if I broke that rule, a bouncer would beat the shit out of me. To maintain the “family friendly atmosphere,” restaurants like Hooters operate more on nuance that some patrons (like the person this post is about) may not understand.
Aeri@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Any upstanding pervert can come up with a strip club but it takes a special kind of repressed creepiness to come up with Hooters if you ask me.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
If someone works at Hooters they know what they signed up for. And if that’s objectionable, then I’m just keeping them employed, so clearly that’s good!
We don’t have Hooters though
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
But the porn is fake and the waitresses there all really definitely actually like me if you catch my drift.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 months ago
You have to wonder, is the wife doing this specifically to fuck with her husband, or does their take-out food actually have decent price-performance in some way? Maybe the food arrives really fast, or they have some dish that they excel at that no other place in the vicinity has? Maybe their chicken wings are just cheaper than KFC?
Aeri@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I wouldn’t be caught dead ordering food from a service like uber eats. The amount of distress that you would have to inflict upon me for me to even consider Uber Eats would be insane.
Purchasing a meal from ubereats means suffering an obscene markup that means it will always make more sense for me to go myself.
Here’s a hypothetical scenario to illustrate:
In-store price for a meal: $20
On Uber Eats:
Restaurant might mark it up 15-30% → $23-$26 just for the food, that’s not so bad, buuuut…
Plus delivery fee (say $4) + service fee (say $3) + tip (say $3) → total $33-$36
That means you’re paying ~60-80% more than going to the restaurant or picking up.
In some cases (especially for smaller meals or chain fast-food), the total jump can exceed 100% more just because you don’t want to drive ten minutes down the road.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 months ago
As far as I’m concerned, a restaurant meal is already special occasions only, and you might have more important things to do on a day like that than driving to a restaurant, or just be already drunk, or you really want to drink an alcoholic drink with your meal. A 100% markup isn’t that much in that situation.
Whether the service is reliable is a different matter … I’m definitely not paying 100% markup if there’s a significant risk that my meal won’t arrive at all. Delivery used to be more reliable than that …
zout@fedia.io 2 months ago
If she wants to fuck with her husband, she'd better take him there to get him in the mood if you know what I'm saying...
Magnum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
I have my wife too, if you catch my drift.
AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Hooters’ wing sauce is actually pretty good. I used to be able to buy it in my local grocery store and I’d toss veggie nuggets in it. And I suspect as long as it’s still hot by the time you get it (bit of a gamble I know) buffalo wings probably do better with delivery than a lot of other options.
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
I don’t think their buffalo sauce is better than any other generic buffalo sauce. Frank’s is my go-to standard. You can get a bottle of Frank’s anywhere for like three bucks. If you’re not doing better than Frank’s, what are you even doing?
baines@lemmy.cafe 2 months ago
just tell your wife you want to order some to your home escorts
altphoto@lemmy.today 2 months ago
Well how about Boober eats? Same as Uber, but the hooters come visit you at your messy room.
defuse959@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
They did this in Portland during the pandemic. It lasted for about 2 1/2 weeks before they were sued into closing.
Fucking corpo shit bags.axexrx@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Is that real? Sounds like a sexual assault waiting to happen.
altphoto@lemmy.today 2 months ago
Yeah, the manager would have to drive along and it would have to be a pretty big guy…awkward…here’s your chicken buddy! Wanna say hi to Jessica? Yeah it wouldn’t work.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Last time I walked by a hooters i saw signs that said “kids eat 1/2 price!” And “Monday is family night! Specials available”
It’s like they just want anyone in there, you gay? It’s ok forget the boobs, come eat the shit food! Kids? Why not. Bring grandma after church! PLEASE EAT HERE WE ARE A DYING BUSINESS!
electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Industrial society and it’s consequences.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Ah yes, the views.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
They’ve got a huge business opportunity there. Every branch should be different! They could have one with plus-sized waitresses, one with waiters instead, one with whips and leather, one with mature waitresses, all in the same town.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
please femboy hooters is so passé now
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Fanfare2217@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Is that really the Hooters logo? Holy shit.
TomMasz@piefed.social 2 months ago
I’ve heard this type of establishment referred to as “breastaurant”.
uberfreeza@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If no one ever told me what Hooters was about when I was younger, I absolutely would have gone to one as an adult thinking it would involve owls. Like a cat cafe, but owls.
Fanfare2217@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I mean, yeah, I would probably think the same. But the logo looks just like a clit, man.
stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
This is exactly why I don’t go to Hooters. I can’t stand being surrounded by men like him. Sir, you’re like 50 and the waitress is barely 20. I miss their wings.
sirico@feddit.uk 2 months ago
You can always walk in like an adult
Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 2 months ago
ITT: drifts being thrown around all willy-nilly!
sramder@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Launching my new food delivery service tomorrow called Tots™ we only deliver tater-tots but every driver is stacked and scantily clad 😎
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 2 months ago
I think you mean Thots™
axexrx@lemmy.world 2 months ago
One of my friends proposed ‘toys for thots.’ A 501c program helping subsidize the start up costs for begining only fans models via crowd sourced low interest loans, with the interest going into future loans.
sramder@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yessssss! Points!
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Yeah if you do tots instead I feel like all the drivers have to be questionably young. Like nobody 19 or older can deliver.
As long as you don’t serve alcohol and everyone uses their own vehicles… 🐣😬
Icky.
AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 months ago
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don@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Can I get those tots poutine-style? That’s the real question.
sramder@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Excellent idea!
Except now Putots is stuck in my head :-)
snooggums@piefed.world 2 months ago
This one right here, officer.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Do you have cheesy bacon tots?
sramder@lemmy.world 2 months ago
For sure! Spicy cheese or regular. Even Canadian bacon…
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Sold