I’ve seen some behind the scenes numbers for a different streaming service when “people are canceling in droves”. For every article I saw, I never once saw a significant number of cancellations.
So, I would take these articles with a grain of salt
Submitted 6 months ago by mesamunefire@piefed.social to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.newsweek.com/disney-plus-subscribers-quit-jimmy-kimmel-axe-2132535
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PotentialProblem@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe 6 months ago
PotentialProblem@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I’m not sure this level of drop shows much of anything.
devedeset@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Did any of them involve a massive government scandal involving violation of basic rights supposedly guaranteed by said government?
I’ll also take it with a grain of salt, but the difference here is that I personally know people who have cancelled. With prior boycotts I never really did, save for maybe some people shopping at Target less.
PotentialProblem@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
You’re right. It’s plausible that this is a big impact for them, but until someone releases actual numbers… I’m heavily suspicious. For whatever reason, these services often get a bump in subscribers when they’re constantly in the news like this.
jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Never much liked Jimmy Kimmel but he earned some brownie points here haha. Not sure any of this counts for a lot, the “droves” number seems to a few twitter accounts that said they cancelled and one that said the website was slow when they tried to do it.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I love this for Disney!
I was never a subscriber, and barely care about any of their products, anyway. If I never see another Disney-produced show again, I’ll be just fine.
Fuck 'em.
bigbabybilly@lemmy.world 6 months ago
If I was a subscriber, I’d quit. But I’m a pirate instead. Fuck all of ‘em.
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
Yar! Matey! Wish you good wind in your sails!
weirdbeardgame@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Then you’re already doing your part.
mlg@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Right? Couldn’t pay me to use Disney. Even Netflix I only liked during the DVD era. Streaming selection was always crap with maybe 1 actual show or movie you wanted to see.
laranis@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Next step: “It is un-American not to have Disney+ in your household. Only members of Antifa or trans people don’t have Disney+. It will be mandatory for every patriotic God loving US citizen to have Disney+ in their home and on at least three hours per week. Anyone found not to be watching the party approved level of Disney programming will be taxed $21.99 per month and the proceeds put into a new ‘Mickey Patriot Fund’.”
87Six@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Wait, do these guys seriously have beef with antifa to call someone out for being antifa like that? Or is that just an exaggeration? Genuinely don’t know what to believe nowadays lmao.
laranis@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Thinking about the whole “Antifa is a terror organization” announcement from our dear leader.
zbyte64@awful.systems 6 months ago
See also: setup a public wifi share box to help your neighbors scale back on subscriptions
merc@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
A bigger deal to them is the theme parks and cruises.
Not only are those big money makers, they’re also easier for news crews to see and report on.
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
We cancelled ours.
wolfeh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
Be aware: Newsweek has a history of posting stories that placate and reassure the non-MAGA crowd. I don’t 100% trust their intentions as an organization. Kamala Harris was definitely going to win according to Newsweek, the week before the election.
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
Almost the entire article here is reposting stuff from Xhitter. That’s the best they’ve got.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’ve said it before, but NW shouldn’t be used at all its a tabloid. Kinda disappointed in my fellow lemms that keep using it.
Joe_A@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah, unless they cite sources with real numbers I wouldn’t hold my breath.
bigmamoth@lemmy.world 6 months ago
So good, finnaly disney will have to drop their activist productions and start making great content again.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 months ago
I wrote to them and told them that ABC has been my news supplier for decades, but now I’ll be switching to NBC. I’ll also be cancelling my HULU sub.
As for their broadcast content, I told them that I will either pirate it, or watch it in TIVO, and skip the ads. That’s what really hurts them.
All media companies do not serve entertainment as their core business. They are literally nothing more than advertising platforms. That’s where 100% of their revenues comes from. The entertainment is just bait, to make us sit on our couch, and hopefully be too lazy too move our fat asses when the ads come on.
So threatening to consume their expensive bait without consuming their revenue-producing ads, really hurts.
vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
I’m sure the CEO got the message
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Probably not a great idea to tell Disney in writing you will pirate their content.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Eh, Fuck them, what are they going to do about it? You think I gave them my name and address?
Besides, I haven’t done anything wrong. I just told them of my intention, and that’s not illegal. Maybe I’ll follow through, maybe I won’t. I’m Schrodinger’s Pirate.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Don’t you still pay your cable provider if you TiVo ABC? Cable providers pay retransmission fees to the networks.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 months ago
It’s not a perfect system, but it still hurts them. They won’t be satisfied with SOME of the money, they want it ALL.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
[deleted]LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Ads have been one of the most destructive forces on humanity in the last 100 years.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 months ago
I play the guitar. I once knew a guy that pumped iron through ever commercial break.
None of that is the point. They want the chance to get into your brain, and if you don’t even allow the ads to run, then they lose that opportunity.
They paid out all that money, and you’re getting it for free. Corporations hate that more than anything.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
I didn’t have a Disney channel to unsubscribe from so I cancelled my Apple subscription.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Fair.
I closed my apple subscription at the time because I don’t have any apple devices, but I’d close it again if I could.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
God damn it, I JUST renewed my sub for a whole year…
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Demand your money back. It’s bad enough when they are losing future biz, but they’ll really hate if they have to give any money BACK.
jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
You can still get back most of the year of you message them. This will give you time to setup a replacement on stremio + alldebrid
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’ve already started my journey to replace all streaming services with jellyfin anyway so i will be cancelling mine too.
This jimmy kimmel business just sweetens the deal.
got an old raspberry pi set up as a jump box with a tailscale vpn so i can remotely power up my pc from anywhere and watch anything i have downloaded. Just need to get a dedicated server and storage, either nas or internal in a larger tower. But for now its working really well.
kaidenshi@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Aoostar makes some really great tiny NAS devices based on the Intel N100/N150 series, and they also have an AMD unit if that’s your jam (it’s mine). If you buy the one with built in main storage it comes with Windows 11 Pro installed but you can wipe that and install Linux or a dedicated NAS OS if you wish. Or just save money and throw a NVMe SSD in for the OS and a bunch of HDDs for media and go to town.
The best part is you can buy direct from Aoostar, no need to buy from Amazon though they are offered there too.
aoostar.com/collections/nas-series
I also like UGREEN’s NAS offerings, they come with their own custom NAS OS that supports Docker so you can run all your *arrs and Jellyfin and other server apps as containers. The web-based interface is like using a normal Linux or macOS desktop.
See you on the high seas, matey.
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Thanks for the info. These look brilliant! I am more AMD incljned also but ive read that in terms of transcoding media, Intel is better. I have time though. Not gonna buy anything until after christmas.
FE80@lemmy.world 6 months ago
got an old raspberry pi set up as a jump box with a tailscale vpn so i can remotely power up my pc from anywhere and watch anything i have downloaded. Just need to get a dedicated server and storage, either nas or internal in a larger tower. But for now its working really well.
cyberpunk is now.
pslightlypsycho47@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Anyone have a guide for remote Jellyfin access running on a Linux server? Been struggling to get it working.
InputZero@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Look into:
Talescale for an easy but limited option.
Wireguard with a dynamic DNS service for something that provides more flexibility with a little set up.
Don’t open a publicly facing port unless it’s for an encrypted tunnel. If you don’t want to open your computer to a lot of threats. Always use an encrypted tunnel when opening something to the Internet.
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Depends on how you want to do it: via a VPN like Tailscale, Cloudflare tunnel, etc.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
Do you have a good, idiot-friendly, guide on how to set up JellyFin? I tried once but wasn’t able to get anything to stream.
overworkedandundersane@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’ve had trouble getting Jellyfish to stream anything. The error message it gives you in the client GUI make it sound like the problem is client-side, but it always ends up being permissions on the server (for me, anyway).
I ended up having to move my media drive into /mnt/<drive> (rather than /mnt/<username>/<drive>) and allow Jellyfin to access that folder - the Jellyfin service needs permissions.
The Jellyfin log files will show you that is having trouble accessing the files of this is the issue.
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Need to stream at home or away from home?
9cpluss@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Oh! In addition, if you want to access it from a tv or mobile device you install the client on those devices and point them at the same IP and port. My lg tv has jellyfin in the store, firesticks have it, play store (i assume apple app store too) amd the server can be managed from there too.
You can set up users and allow each user to acces different content in the settings which is good if you have kids and want to keep them from watching john wick 😜
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Perhaps its been made easier now as i don’t think i did much more than running the installer. My pc is on windows though, my server will likely be using some version of linux. I want to learn linux but need my main pc too much to make it a daily driver.
I used these instrctions for the windows installer
(Click the windows link there)
Run the installer (can set it as a service but thats only necessary if you want to run it on boot instead of after login. Afaik.)
Once installed you can access it via your local ipaddress:8096 (eg 192.168.1.100:8096)
From there you can head to management in the menus and set up your folders for movies/tv shows etc. You just make some folders somewhere on your pc and point it at those. Download all your content and organise it in there. Jellyfin is quite good at dividing things up into individual series and uses meta data to fill in names and thumbnails etc. And you can select the 3 dots when hovering over any thumbnails to edit the metadata or add custom thumnails etc.
I just tinker with it though. Decide what settings you want to use. I still need to set up https but need to look into self signed certificates and stuff first.
Hope that helps.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 months ago
I think Marvel and star wars addicts might find it hard to cancel thier subscriptions, they are so obsessed with these franchised.
LordPassionFruit@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Just weighing in as a reformed Marvel fan and lifelong Star Wars fan: I started keeping local copies of that shit almost a decade ago and recommend to anyone I know to do the same. You never know when a streaming company might decide that it is no longer worth the bandwidth to host it, or if the rights will be transferred to a new service that I won’t already have (i.e. all ot them). If you genuinely enjoy almost any media in the modern era you need to have a local copy, because if you don’t some corporate entity may just decide to make it lost media on a whim because it becomes only moderately profitable.
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Imagine actual oligarchs and nazis staying in power because people love stories they control about imaginary people defeating imaginary oligarchs and nazis to much to stop giving them money.
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
For those that can’t quit the content cold turkey, there are other avenues of consuming that don’t benefit Disney… 🏴☠️
bold_atlas@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The truly obsessive Star Wars fans won’t pirate. They think Disney will blacklist them and they’ll miss out on waving plastic light cones around at those freakish cult ceremonies.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
The suspension of the show has been met with condemnation and praise from both sides of the political spectrum.
Who on the left is praising it? Is this deliberate bullshit by Newsweek, or just careless copyediting?
echodot@feddit.uk 6 months ago
It’s really sloppy wordmanship but I think what it’s supposed to be saying is that the news has been met with both condemnation and praise from across the political spectrum aka condemnation from the left, and praise from the right. So technically the statement is true, but clumsily written.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
I guess it depends on whether you regard “Republicans Against Trump” as being on the Left. Trump probably does.
snowby@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
I cancelled my disney+ because of this.
echodot@feddit.uk 6 months ago
This reminds me to cancel my Disney plus subscription. Anytime I ever actually have a subscription is when there’s new episodes of Andor. I’m genuinely baffled as to what other attractor Disney plus has.
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 6 months ago
doctor who, at least for my parents and I. my parents refuse to pirate shit, though
digredior@lemmynsfw.com 6 months ago
For parents, Bluey
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Just pirate it. No commercials.
RBWells@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Clone Wars
WildPalmTree@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Alien: Earth
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
I’m genuinely baffled as to what other attractor Disney plus has.
The Bear.
zephiriz@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Welcome aboard matey?
cloudy1999@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
In addition to cancelling, which is the MOST important thing:
What about uninstalling their apps?
App providers can see the number of installations on the different platforms (Apple, Roku, Android, etc). That count falling will further raise their disquiet. Leaving an app installed or continuing to use the service before the cancellation is processed could send an unintentional message that maybe this is all just temporary and we’ll come back in a couple of weeks after the news cycle plays out.
bier@feddit.nl 6 months ago
Did that but also removed my account, I was not an active subscriber, but after logging in they push you towards subscribing. AFAIK you can only delelte your account via live chat, be sure to mention Art. 17 GDPR Right to erasure (‘right to be forgotten’).
rock_hand@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That shit is pre installed and unremovable for most non-techies using their normal tv os. It’s so annoying too.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
The most annoying thing is they put buttons on the remote for services I don’t subscribe to. Accidentally press one of those buttons when trying to change the volume? Well I guess we’re spending the next 30 seconds opening a streaming service I don’t use and then existing out of it (which they make unnecessarily difficult to do) and then finding my way back to what I was watching.
k0e3@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Good for you Americans. Don’t reactivate even if Kimmel comes back!
davidagain@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Surely resubscribing if they reverse their decision is the strongest signal to go woke or go broke. That there’s money in allowing criticism of president, that can go away again if they engage with government censorship in America (of all places) again.
k0e3@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
That’s an interesting take, but I don’t like to reward mega corporations. They know what makes them go broke, so they should build up that trust again. It’s not like their service is essential, so why go back so quickly?
As a Canadian, I’ve been doing my best to avoid US products and services since January and I don’t plan on stopping if 100% of Americans “get the hint” tomorrow.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu 6 months ago
That makes more sense to me. But I don’t have a subscription anyway
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Cancelled
SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Maybe I’m just cynical, but I feel like everyone cancelling is going to forget about this in a few months when the news cycle moves on and a new Star Wars show comes out or something.
Has a disorganized boycott like this ever worked? (honest question)
0ops@piefed.zip 6 months ago
I did
Intergalactic@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Do we have any numbers?
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I tell ya, its fucking hilarious seeing the right and left switching sides on this. Back when Gina Carano got fired, the right were all “Cancel disney plus!!!” and the left were like “Freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences!!!”. And now its the left crying about free speech, and the right circlejerking “consequences”.
Humanity is fucked.
Professorozone@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Clickbait. Friggin article never mentions what"drives" means. I was hoping to find out 1 million people cancelled or something, but it just mentioned a few specific people.
Also, they didn’t mention me. :(
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 6 months ago
HBO Max or whatever it’s called. Hulu and ESPN.
The only language they speak is money. So give them a taste of speaking with money.
frog_brawler@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I don’t even like Jimmy Kimmel, but I cancelled too. Don’t fuck with the 1st amendment.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
There’s nothing like getting stroked by the invisible hand of the free market.
QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
I don’t even watch Kimmel but the mouse is out
altphoto@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Hey, did you guys all get the invitation to see the inside of a people powered Disney world heating system?
I heard that it was just a big box with steam tubes running on the top. You just need to people to power it. They call it the Great Accessible Steam Chamber!
Can’t wait to see you all there with me powering the world!