Okay, so now you can barely afford your rent inside a black hole. Enjoy the enhanced granularity of your desperation!
well?
Submitted 5 weeks ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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fartographer@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
dohpaz42@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That would explain why it feels like my bank account is being sucked dry.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Fortunately the universe can get Cosmic Overdraft Protection, for only a small annual fee and 11 squillion bazillion stomptillion dollars per occurrence.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
What is this black hole, my ex-wife?
tugs collar
Asafum@feddit.nl 5 weeks ago
And since you’re in a black hole with your unaffordable rent, you can’t escape it!!!
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I can barely afford rent!
Well… the good news is you can stretch your income a bit further with spaghettification!
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Beans are economical too
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
nuclear pasta is very energy dense
peregrin5@piefed.social 5 weeks ago
paying rent sometimes feels like throwing money into a black hole
dohpaz42@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The same for mortgages too really. All these people out there toting new construction and how it’s good for property values seem to forget that higher property values means 1) higher property taxes, and 2) higher priority values, for when you sell your home and need to buy a new one.
Sc00ter@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Not to mention mortgage rates are so damn high that your mortgage payment is basically like paying rent to the bank because you’re barely touching the principal on the loan
underisk@hexbear.net 5 weeks ago
Only sometimes?
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Therefore your landlord’s bank account is a black hole. Therefore black holes are inside banks. Therefore the universe is inside a bank.
peregrin5@piefed.social 5 weeks ago
cosmic horror
TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 5 weeks ago
It’s actually throwing money into BlackRock.
balderdash9@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Don’t worry, the money goes to paying your landlord’s mortgage.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
This is a postulation not a discovery.
Someone did a weird math thingy that gave a word result and this was how they tried to explain it. There’s been zero confirmation this is actually the case. Just like they can’t decide if dark energy/matter is a thing.
Johanno@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
We have a theory for expansion of the universe. It is called “the big bang theory”.
However according to the math our universe should slow down expanding, but we can observe it is speeding up. Solution? Dark Energy.
There are models that try to simulate the orbits and shit of things we can see. Now those models aren’t working however… Solution? Dark matter.
This is very run down concept of what dark matter and energy is. Basically shit we need for the math to work out to the observation we make.
However I don’t think we are inside a black hole. This would mean that instead of mostly nothing our universe would be cramped with matter…
faultyproboscus@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
If you take all the mass in our universe and run it through the Schwarzschild equation, you get a black hole with about the same radius as our observable universe.
Things don’t need to be tightly packed to be a black hole, there just needs to be enough stuff in an area.
odelik@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
There’s also been some major leaps in dark matter physics in the last few years. Revisiting primordial black holes using lasers and microlensing might actually be able to get supporting evidence here before long if the hypothesis holds.
PBS Space Time has a good video breaking this possibility and methodology down.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
Difference being that we understand dark matter exponentially more than dark energy. We can actually observe it’s gravity affecting light.
ubergeek@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
There’s also cyclic conformal universe theory, put forth by Penrose.
Where once you have an empty enough space… its mathematically indistinguishable from a singularity.
So, if its true, then yeah, we could be inside of a blackhole/singularity.
At this point, that doesn’t really matter.
ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
So, dark matter and energy is the Universe’s theorized version of the Kelevin (from The Office).
Geodad@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
What if we’re not in a black hole, but in the aftermath of a vacuum decay event?
burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
no my vacuum is working fine, thanks
Landless2029@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
But is your refrigerator running?
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
That is literally what the current big bang theory says! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflationary_epoch?wprov=sf…
Geodad@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Look up vacuum decay. It’s theoretically a thing that can rewrite spacetime at a lower energy level, and would expand out from a point in a bubble. The expanding bubble would erase and rewrite everything it touched into the lower energy level.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
Well, that might suck slightly less in the long run?
Geodad@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That depends. The chances of finding other life are lower. That would also make a cosmic horizon that we would never be able to see beyond. It would make us unable to find the beginning of everything.
bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
What if Zelda was a girl?
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
We’re inside a dust cup?
scytale@piefed.zip 5 weeks ago
Ok I've been meaning to ask this in the Space community or the NoStupidQuestions community. I've seen this news circling around the past 2 weeks and have been watching videos of people talking about it.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think the gist is that astronomers discovered with the JWST that some galaxies at the end of the observable universe appear to be younger than they are supposed to be. So it kinda blows a hole in the big bang expansion where objects farther away should be older. And that somehow ties in with the theory that our universe is inside a blackhole.
It's fascinating but I don't know what to do with that information other than just be fascinated. I think it was Neil deGrasse Tyson who said "what does it matter to us? nothing", because us being in a blackhole doesn't change anything in the scale of our universe.
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
From what I’ve seen, it’s not that they’re “young” galaxies, but that they shouldn’t have had enough time to develop if the universe were truly so crazily homogenous from the big bang. It doesn’t necessarily disprove the big bang, just means the universe might not be as “smooth” as previous assumptions.
jared@mander.xyz 5 weeks ago
I’ve always liked this theory, imagining the cosmos is just a series/web/tree of black holes draining into the next. Everything gets recycled eventually.
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
It meshes well with my occasional feeling that reality is just circling the drain.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
actually, we are inside the dream of someone else, and that one too is again in a dream …
pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It doesn’t answer where it all came from. Whatever theory or religion you choose, there’s no answer to this question apart from it suddenly appeared which implies something can be created out of nothing and that creates a whole lot of new questions and possibilities.
TachyonTele@piefed.social 5 weeks ago
Another big part of it is that if the big bang happened evenly then galaxies and other objects should be spinning in random directions. So far that's not what's been observed. There seems to be a preferred direction everything spins in.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
There seems to be a preferred direction everything spins in.
I’m sorry but i think that’s just not true?
Inside the solar system, yes, planets more or less spin around the same axis than the whole solar system does.
But the axis of the solar system and of the whole milky way are like 63° towards each other. Source So, not the same direction at all.
radioactivefunguy@piefed.ca 5 weeks ago
The direction the black hole "toilet" flushes as it sucks stuff in and smashes it against each other?
Maybe there's a parallel universe called Astraliastra where the black hole flushes the other direction!
Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
We also have to remember that we can only see a bounded sphere of the universe from our frame of reference.
If we were to move our observation points to elsewhere in the universe, we’ll be able to see more of the universe and challenge our current theories.
The JSWT sees only what it can, and our theories about the universe can only extend as far as that evidence. Those galaxies might appear to be younger, but the science is never finished!
Probably goes without saying
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Maybe the far away galaxies are just the close galaxies seen from the other side?
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Nah, that would require spacetime to curve a lot more than it does. It’d also have to curve in the other direction (local spacetime is hyperbolic, “local” as in basically all of the observable universe). Calculations show the universe must be several times larger than the observable universe in order to match even Hubble observations, let alone JWST observations.
RuthBaderGonesburg@hexbear.net 5 weeks ago
The Hubble radius of the universe is also equal to its Schwarzschild radius, which is a requirement for any “we’re inside a black hole” theory.
woodenghost@hexbear.net 5 weeks ago
That’s not an empirical observation nor a new discovery though. It just an analogy that leans on the definition of Schwarzschild Radius. No one is seriously implying, that we’re somehow trapped in a black hole.
In fact, the analogy only holds, if the Hubble parameter is constant and this new result, if it holds up, would still indicate, that it is not constant. As was expected by the standard model of cosmology. If the Hubble constant is decreasing, and consensus is that it does, than the Hubble radius is also different from an event horizon in the following way: light reaching us from more than 5 billion years ago comes from regions that have always been receding from us at speeds faster than light.
fluxion@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Tax breaks for the rich is the only solution
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Wouldn’t it even be more helpful to just relieve the ultrarich from taxes? So they could better pay their rent too. I’d throw in one or two moneyz to help.
logicbomb@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I suddenly feel something trickling down from above. Is this what they were talking about all these years? Is this a good thing? It smells bad, like really bad. Like somebody is cooking meth while they have a near fatal case of diarrhea. What am I supposed to do?
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Get hooked on meth, it’ll wildly change your priorities.
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
NOT “discovered inside black hole”, just gained further theoretical evidence for the Earth being in a less dense area of the universe. There has been actual evidence of such for some time (at least a decade), but there is uncertainty at such large scales so it cannot be called conclusive based only on a couple types of observation that may have erroneous procedures.
rozodru@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
so basically We’re out in butt fuck no where in space and the aliens aren’t coming any time soon cause they essentially live in New York City and we’re in a town in Iowa that no one has ever heard of.
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
We should all be celebrating our good fortune, protection against a dark forest strike!
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Anyone got a link to either nasa or a good article explaining it?
Taalnazi@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Both are fair and valid.
Peaceful science & good housing should go hand in hand.
don@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I mean, we can talk about it for a bit, Angie, if it’d make you feel better, but that’s really about it, honestly.
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 5 weeks ago
Considering NASA could be canceled by an ass hole, I think we have other problems.
sirico@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
You better start believing in compression systems you’re in one
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Don’t get me wrong, understanding the nature of the universe is valuable and noteworthy. But how would that information meaningfully impact anyone’s life or change their behavior or worldview beyond a general awe at the unfathomable mysteries we already have towards space as we’ve understood it for centuries? Am I meant to stare up at the sky from 8:15 to 8:30 every other night with my mouth agap while I try to wrap my mind around the spacetime bubble we all exist on the surface of? Or can I just eat dinner?
Jocker@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
May be that’s why it sucks to live here… It’s related
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 5 weeks ago
Man I really wish we had super fast space travel like star wars…
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Yes, we ignore it. Given the size of the universe, if being inside a black implies any conseqences that will ever hurt us, it will be a process that takes billions of years to develop, giving the human race billions of years to either become extinct or solve the problem.
shneancy@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
hasn’t this been a theory for a while now? The event horizon of a black hole keeps information minus one dimension. and the theory goes that our entire universe is just at the edge or a black hole in a 4D universe
crazycraw@crazypeople.online 5 weeks ago
we could acknowledge it as a possibility AND work to better our um… local frame of reference.
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 5 weeks ago
I mean, I think it's fair to ignore it 99% of the time. Frankly, as much as I love space science and science in general, we all should have a responsibility to solve real problems here and now. That's been my issue with a lot of science, currently - we need problem solvers rather than idle explorers.
Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 5 weeks ago
I thought black holes aren’t actually holes at all, they’re literally gigantic physical objects because they’re dead suns with shockingly high gravity that prevents light from escaping; how could our universe be inside something like that?
procrastitron@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I took a physics course at a community college over 20 years ago and one of the things that stood out to me was the professor telling us not to overthink or assign too much romanticism to the idea of black holes.
His message was basically “it just means the escape velocity is greater than the speed of light… if you plug the size and mass of the universe into the escape velocity formula, the result you get back is greater than the speed of light, so our entire universe is a black hole.”
If this was being discussed at a community college decades ago then I think the new discoveries aren’t as revelatory as they would at first appear to the general public.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 5 weeks ago
Nah really it was probably some small thing the media got a hold of and just ran with. I think you’re spot on
Klear@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Relevant xkcd
And a relevant smbc for good measure.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
On the contrary; while I have heard the explanation that the commenter you replied to has said I have also heard a slightly different theory:
Our universe is the 3 dimensional event horizon of a 4th dimensional black hole. By extension we may find that black holes in our universe have similar funky 2 dimensional areas at their even horizons.
I am sure clickbait articles are part of it but there also seems to be several actual theories surrounding the idea of the nature of our universe relating to black holes.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
squaresinger@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Journalist: What is context?
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
another thing I learned at some point: Just because a physics formula returns a result, doesn’t mean that it’s reality
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
TBF black holes themselves were originally just the result of a Physics formula, but they eventually turned out to be a “reality”. Sometimes that shit happens, yo.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Iff the rules of physics are accurate then it does, but we don’t know that they are. In fact, we’re pretty sure we’re missing some things. See: The Crisis in Cosmology.
dutchkimble@lemy.lol 5 weeks ago
Orr, you’re missing the obvious alternative here - the guy was a legendary level scientist, but the government stole his research and threatened his family and sidelined him into being a community college professor so that no one pays attention to his “drivel” so that they continue to control us into being workers for the capitalist pigs
pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I mean, the model was first developed in the 70s so maybe not that specific guy
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole_cosmology
sudo_halt@lemmygrad.ml 5 weeks ago
Would make for a decent flick, get Hollywood on the call
TachyonTele@piefed.social 5 weeks ago
Theory is one thing.
Observation is the next step.
procrastitron@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Absolutely. I don’t want to minimize the importance of the new discoveries in any way; I’m just saying this isn’t the great surprise the original post seems to think it is.
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
When I first saw pictures of galaxies as a kid I noticed they all looked like black holes.
In a way we’re all just bits of organic matter mid-flush, waiting for the Drainpipe of Destiny
MintyFresh@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Word
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Interestingly, galaxies at the edge of our ability to perceive are in fact receding away from us at velocities greater than the speed of light.
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Maybe it’s because they are outside the black hole and aren’t time dilated.