Resonosity
@Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 1 day ago:
it is not true.
It is
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 1 day ago:
It is not. I’m sorry you have a different version of reality.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 1 day ago:
Both of you admitted animals are lesser when you negated artificial insemination with rape. There’s no going back now.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 1 day ago:
You’re telling me to be civil while theunknownmuncher’s beliefs are allowed room to breathe.
You take a side when you do this because these types of belief should be silenced. Genocidal, violent, psychopathic beliefs should not be given platforms to fester online.
Telling me to be civil is muting the response needed to counter these horrific ideas. This type of apologia and these kinds of ideas contribute to furthering domestication and slavery of animals.
You are being the equivalent of a US Liberal telling Leftwingers to follows rules and procedures to counter Right-wing fascism. Ideas of oppression, no matter the group of people or species of life, need to be shunned.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 2 days ago:
Then why won’t you say that artificial insemination IS rape?
Because that’s my whole argument. It has been my whole argument, and will continue to be my whole argument, regardless of how much you try to derail the conversation.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 2 days ago:
Artificial insemination is not a veterinary procedure though. It’s a forced action on a animal that violates their consent.
How the fuck do y’all not recognize this.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 2 days ago:
I’m questioning your support for psychopathic opinions. Because it is psychopathic to think of animals as lesser beings compared to humans that deserve less dignity, respect, and moral consideration.
That is what both you and theunknownmuncher are defending. Disgusting.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 2 days ago:
Theunknownmuncher said that I trivialize the experience of human rape victims. I never said anything that would trivialize their experiences. I advocated for broadening the scope of what we call rape to more than just humans. It’s anthropocentric to think that only humans can be raped.
Does this sub encourage bad faith discussions? That seems to be against the principle of civility.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 2 days ago:
Meet psychopathy with civility? Interesting response.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 2 days ago:
You made a personal attack when you put words in my mouth and forced me to take a position I never held.
I’m defending myself accordingly.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 2 days ago:
Interesting to hear this perspective when theunknownmuncher has been doing the same throughout my thread with them and this entire post.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 2 days ago:
You keep trying to catch me in a trap as if I fell into one. You’re hallucinating.
Real suffering
Shows your speciesist bias. How fortunate that you ignore to acknowledge that bias in order to buff up your argument and make it appear stronger than it is.
Artificial insemination is rape, and cows suffer as a result, just as women do, dogs do, and any other species.
And for the record, you don’t care about women getting raped. You literally don’t give a fuck because if you did, you’d understand the parallels between what humans can experience and what non-human animals can experience. Rape to any animal is a violation that can fuck them up, psychologically!
But your sick, egotistical, selfish world view blocks you from giving a shit. I suspect this world view also extends to other beliefs of yours.
Go crawl back into the hole where you feel morally righteous. Meanwhile, is vegans will continue to fight for animal rights which includes anti-artificial insemination and freedom.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 2 days ago:
It’s so sad that you have to project your own lack of self-awareness just to make your argument. Clearly grasping at straws here.
In the meantime, us vegans will keep convincing people successfully that any animal can be raped, and especially cows who are artificially inseminated.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
Yes dumbass. I said that IN THE CONTEXT of referring to how humans, cows, and dogs aren’t ALL the same. However, humans, cows, and dogs are ALL sentient beings with the capability to communicate and experience pain. In that way, consent is real for them, and artificial insemination via non-consent is rape for ALL of them.
You’re trying to trap me in a cognitive fallacy, when the really fallacy is your inability to understand nuance and context. Truly not shaking the dumbass reputation.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
Artificial insemination is equivalent to rape though. That’s been my whole argument this entire time.
And instead of finding good reasons to refute that, you’re doubling down on straw mans and trying to derail the conversation. You’re sweating that I won’t give up to your bigoted views.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
Cope. You’ve ran out of arguments, but you’re trying to cover your ass to make it look like you’re the one that came out on top.
Keep up the debate if you’re not uncomfortable with people pointing out the flaws in your world view for all to see.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
Show me where I perfectly equated humans to cows, cows to dogs, or dogs to humans.
It’s okay to feel uncomfortable and conflicted right now if you can’t find it. Perhaps dwell on the fact that you actually do understand that they are the same IN THE WAYS I DESCRIBED while simultaneously clinging to a world view that requires them to be different.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 3 days ago:
You wouldn’t change your mind that we should do everything we can to prevent such an event from happening?
You’d just accept your fate?
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 4 days ago:
The fact you can’t see how contradictory this is is quite humorous.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 4 days ago:
What if someone were to use that power and kill you?
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 4 days ago:
How do we know that artificial insemination isn’t traumatizing to cows? Where is your evidence of that? You claiming that rape to cows is harmless is trivializing.
Comparison doesn’t mean perfect equation. Don’t fucking put words in my mouth.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 4 days ago:
So murder to you is good or not because of the law? If there was no law, you’d be fine murdering people?
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 4 days ago:
We’re trying to get to the bottom of why you think forcible impregnation of someone is rape while of a cow isn’t.
You said that dogs can be raped, and specifically pet dogs.
I pointed out that there are no differences between pet dogs and stray dogs, and likewise between pet cows and stray cows.
I called you out for holding a subjectivist world view because the outcome of raping a pet dog and a stray dog, or pet cows and stray cow is the same. Something happens to them that they would’ve have sought out for in the first place if it wasn’t forced on them. That is the objective reality.
Subjective views of reality where empathy doesn’t apply by virtue of no personal connection sends society back into barbarism. Your world view is compatible with allowing black women to be raped in a world with chattel slavery because slaves were once though to be property of a white male.
Plain and simple: your world view is wrong and morally indefensible. If you like it that way, so be it. But you’re sick and twisted if so.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 4 days ago:
What if broad consensus changes and we allow murdering, like The Purge?
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 4 days ago:
Rape doesn’t have to involve a person. Rape must involve a sentient being that can communicate its wants and desires. Humans and cows are both of those things.
You’re losing the argument btw because you’re falling into reactionary contrarianism without providing positive meaning yourself. Keep digging your own hole.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 4 days ago:
Why not?
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 4 days ago:
Good to know we’re at the end of the line here.
You’re not willing to define rape, which is convenient for your argument because you get to worm your way out of being pinned down with good arguments. You have an inconsistent world view that undermines your qualifications to speak on this topic.
At least we didn’t waste ALL of everyone’s time getting you to reveal this.
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 4 days ago:
Should we allow serial killers to kill other humans for fun even if they think they are right in doing so?
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 4 days ago:
If someone was fucking cows
That’s the exact issue we’re talking about in this thread actually.
Intercourse does not have to involve a penis, vagina, and rectum. It can involve many more things, human related and other.
Do you think that it isn’t rape if you do it to someone with, say, a hand/fist/arm? How about a bottle?
- Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural" 4 days ago:
Something that might feel wrong to you might feel good for someone else.
Is it right for a serial killer to kill humans because they get enjoyment out of it?