The small scale of Lemmy's active user base is never more evident than in the absence of active members in all the sports related communities.

Submitted ⁨⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨11111one11111@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨showerthoughts@lemmy.world⁩

Its rhe only thing I wish could change about my experience using Lemmy, for more active users in the communities like NFL or NHL and the affiliated team pages of those sports. I haven’t had any social media in decades, my main source for sporting news breaks up until 1-2 years ago was Reddit.

I love the small community that makes up Lemmy. As someone just posted, it feels like a small town community. I like the absence of corporate shills and ads and bots.

I will prolly spend more time this coming year settling on a 2ndary source for sports news from sources similar to sleeper app but it would be so nice if the Lemmy sporting communities blew up so I could keep everything aggregated to one source.

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Asidonhopo@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Easy enough to block the sports communities from your feed if you browse c/all if you dont like them. I say someone set up the sports communities and start posting articles to see if we can get more adoption by the sports folks over here. I dont have the patience for sports but more users is good. Some sports people are obnoxious but some certainly aren’t (Bill Bppurr comes to mind) and userbase growth is needed.

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CCAirWater@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I like NHL and MLB. Both my teams are on the other side of the country, though. I cannot watch unless I pay out the wazoo. It ain’t worth it. Plus, cable? No thanks. Can’t afford it anyways, really. I used to listen to MLB radio at my old job with the AtBat app but they changed the subscription and it got too expensive.

Plus, it’s just not accommodating to people like me. I mention liking a team and I get bombarded with questions like “who was the 2nd baseman during 1998?” Or “what’s the current batting average for the designated hitter?” Or “who’s the couch right now?”

Like I have to prove I’m a ‘true fan.’ I don’t care about that. I see ball go fast, and get hit out the park, it is fun. I see a hockey player toss a puck across the ice, it is fun. I love games but I don’t know who the developer is. Or where the best loot chest was in the dungeons of Oblivion or whatever. I just enjoy things the way I enjoy them.

After work, I’d rather spend time reading or playing video games or playing an instrument. Watching ads on TV makes me want to pull my eyes out with a fork. Ads on anything.

Overall… expensive. Ad breaks. And sports fans are not a welcoming bunch. Communities for them are awful, and filled with the kind of men who don’t realize it but have every stat memorized and have to belittle everyone about it to prove their the highlander of sports. The one and only true fan. No thanks.

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RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Everyone’s already hit the high points.

Sports fanbase tends to not be a tech base, which Lemmy primarily is.

Sports are paywalled to hell and back, the userbase here is far more inclined to avoid paywalls and the content behind it.

People dislike the celebrity gossip and stuffed suits surrounding sports.

My own personal disregard for sports leans more towards the dislike of the monied celebrity of the entire genre, the worship of the players, and the pointless obsession and discussion of things like stats that have all the meaning of dowsing rods. But that’s literally just my opinion and obviously plenty of people feel otherwise.

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DiabolicalBird@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The shit in these comments is why Lemmy is doomed to be a minor platform that will inevitably fizzle out.

Seriously people, there are other interests besides Linux and politics. If we bully out other interests from starting communities on Lemmy it’ll never grow out of obscurity… some may like that but I’d personally like to see it grow into something that can actually compete with Reddit.

I say this as someone who doesn’t like sports at all, but we have these magical things called filters for people like me!

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- prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  The shit in these comments is why Lemmy is doomed to be a minor platform that will inevitably fizzle out.
  
  Why will it fizzle out? Personally, I know I’m not alone in saying that I prefer it stay a “minor platform.”
  
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  - KeenFlame@feddit.nu ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    They are an oracle and decide futures
    
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TORFdot0@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I think I’ve generally been less interested in sports as the pro leagues gatekeep more of their games behind multiple paywalls and less interested in college sports as NIL and conference realignment has killed the traditions and the connection between the students, athletes, and alumni.

If you weren’t already a sports fan, I can’t imagine a much worse time to become one

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Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Yeah, we prefer real news.

Sports coverage might as well be celebrity gossip for as much relevance it has when the world is going to shit.

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- KeenFlame@feddit.nu ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Stop melding your personality with a collective and then speaking as if you are their arbiter. Speak for yourself.
  
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mintiefresh@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Wow. I didn’t realize so many people here were anti sports around here. Interesting.

I do miss the sports from Reddit so I still go back for that. But I’ve also decided to try to be the change … So I’ve started to post more in the sports communities around here.

It’s probably the last thing I still go back to Reddit for. Otherwise Lemmy is my go to.

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- prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yeah, the whole “anti-sports” thing always seemed like overcompensation for something? Like if you don’t like sports (I don’t, for the most part), then just don’t watch them. It’s strange when people get like actively hostile about the existence of sports.
  
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the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Thats because sports are shit, I hope they stay out.

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MehBlah@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
When the sports centric folk star appearing here so will a lot of the garbage that comes with having a non tech userbase.

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Jhuskindle@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Does a kind of underground system like Lemmy appeal to sports fans?

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- KeenFlame@feddit.nu ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I think so yes where you can find out real, not paid for news
  
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sommerset@thelemmy.club ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
is there nfl community? bucs? patriots?

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- 11111one11111@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yepper
  
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wieson@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
F1 sometimes reaches the frontpage

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- TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  European sports on Lemmy are a lot more active than American ones
  
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Cocopanda@futurology.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I was hoping to post more often in the SF Giants instance. But with this post. I will try again. We need more sports options outside of Reddit.

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tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Try being into less mainstream sports. It’s like me and one other guy talking to each other over on !sumo@lemmy.world

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- Cocopanda@futurology.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  That’s awesome. Happy to join.
  
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  - tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It’s the middle of the current tournament-- great time to be watching!
    
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walktheplank@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
As a Canadian, it’s the one place I can go to Canadian communities and not be completely buried by fucking hockey. Even this whole elbows up thing is fucking terrible. I get why. I understand that people have been indoctrinated to this and it’s part of their identity here. I don’t understand why it has to be everywhere though.

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Etterra@discuss.online ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Dude. Sports is literally everywhere. It doesn’t need to reach its greedy tendrils into yet another corner of society.

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TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
pro sports are about as normie of an activity as you can get… it’ll be a while before anything beyond futbol ends up here

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frigidaphelion@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Sports are dumb anyway!

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- Ironfist79@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Nah, they promote teamwork and physical fitness which are both good things.
  
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  - vxx@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Is that why everyone is drinking beer during matches and eating tons of fast food?
    
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- 11111one11111@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  So original and edgy! To each their own🍻
  
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  - frigidaphelion@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I should have used /s, just joshin
    
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PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
We’re here there’s just not a lot of us yet

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AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I thought the exact same thing when i joined. Today while working on my project car I decided to take pictures and make a post sometime over the next few days when I’m done with the task. Hopefully someone sees it and starts discussion and adds content to one of the niche communities here that was actually one of my favorite non toxic subs on shitty ass reddit.

We get to build these communities and it’s kind of exciting 🤙

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pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I would be interested in NHL stuff but I don’t even consume that much NHL content. If somebody actively posts in NHL and other hockey related sub lemmy communities then I’ll join and try to engage as much as I can.

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- 11111one11111@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I get so pissed when I hear stories of the shit the nhl tries out in hopes of growing their fan base when all they need to do is strike a deal with a streaming platform that will allow local markets watch their local team. Ever since I got rid of cable, fuck maybe a decade now, I have all but gave up watching hockey. Yeah ill watch playoffs and yeah I know I can pirate a live stream for each game but for 82 games a year its asking a lot to search for a good streaming source.
  
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  - pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah sometimes I might turn on one of those gray streaming sites and watch live hockey games. I might watch some highlight clips on YouTube
    
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  - gt5@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Tbf, they don’t make it easy to watch football legally without cable either
    
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Tracaine@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
We like sports and we don’t care who knows.

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- the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Just 2 guyz having a good time…
  
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WolframViper@lemmy.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I feel like most of the writing communities are also pretty inactive. I’m not sure why. I liked reading short stories on Reddit, and I don’t like looking at memes. I’m not sure whether it’s a good thing (because I don’t use Lemmy as often that way) or a bad thing.

I guess I could spam them with public-domain stories or reposts or something, but I feel like that’s just losing the plot.

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- Wiz@midwest.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Wait - writing communities on Lemmy?
  
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  - moonpiedumplings@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah, creative writing communities like r/AmITheAsshole, r/relationshipadvice, or r/offmychest.
    
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- 11111one11111@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  This is exactly how I feel across all lemmy communities. Back in my reddit days id find myself writing out entire comments in full, only to delete them before submitting just to avoid a subsequent flood of replies. On lemmy I find myself leaving more and more comments even on shit I barely care about just hoping to drive more user discussions.im not complaining. I genuinely love lemmy and hated reddit, but I cant help feeling like im spaming posts with my comments.
  
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Igris@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Having a small community means you will not attract all the toxic people most of the time.

For me Lemmy feels like s small town ( New Hope, Pennsylvania) with mostly nicer people, while Reddit is a big town (New York) that is well known, but you have a lot more assholes.😅

And honestly, I really enjoy Lemmy for that.🙂

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reactionality@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Ewww keep that shit away from this space. We don’t need brain-addled concussion-full roided up meatheads on Lemmy.

Same as they’re not needed irl but I guess some of you all sniffed a little too much lead paint to agree.

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- 11111one11111@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Well have you considered the meat headed sports fans couldn’t figure out how to join lemmy? That maybe there are regular users on lemmy who might not all be of the same hivemind and there could actually be several multifaceted users who enjoy a wide range of stuff? Im not guna waste my time saving this reply as a draft to back out and re-eead my own post, but did my post even suggest a desire to expand the Lemmy community? I 100% thought it was a simple showerthought about how there are hundreds of millions of people accross the world who love their sport of choice so it blew my mind that there weren’t more users active in any of the sports communities I’ve checked out. I mean its baffling just from a pure statistical consideration.
  
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- Jankatarch@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You forgot the /s
  
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- AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  There’s an easier way to just say you suck at physical things.
  
  Posting something like this just makes you look really bitter.
  
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  - wondrous_strange@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Most people I know that are obsessed with sports are some of the laziest sacks of flesh Ive seen. Almost none of them do any physical activity other than yelling at the screen over their fat beer gut.
    
    Sitting on the couch watching mind numbing idiotic games of men in tight cloths running after a ball does not make you athletic or fit, if that’s what you’re thinking.
    
    People hate sports cause it’s one of the lowest forms of entertainment, and because the people who enjoy it are misbhaved degenerates and obnoxious.
    
    Watching sports is just the easiest thing you can immerse in without needing any significant mental capability or capacity.
    
    You do understand that all it is is just stupid games to distract all of you.
    
    It is unethical, it wastes huge amounts of resources, it is connected to racism nationalism and all kinds of nasty shit.
    
    Enjoy watching Millioners kicking a ball on your flatscreen
    
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- TonyOstrich@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Come on man, let people like what they like. I literally couldn’t care less about sports, and have many issues with the amount of money that goes towards them, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to shit on someone just for enjoying them.
  
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  - AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’ve been an athlete my whole life. I don’t get why more tech savvy people have this absolute disdain for people who enjoy sports. Like, I get it, maybe some of the athletes at your school picked on you. Sweet. I was an athlete and ALSO got picked on by people. Constantly. I’m in my 30’s now, and stopped dwelling on that shit in college. Move on, you know?
    
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zjti8eit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Or we are all just a bunch of nerds with better things to do than watch the people who used to beat us up.

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- 11111one11111@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  How original. Thanks for being the first reply to call yourself a nerd while grouping everyone who ever watched a sport a a bully. Sorry for triggering you with a shower thought about realizing the quantitative imbalance between % of world thst watches sports and the % of lemmy users who do not like sports.
  
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Azal@pawb.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’m not a sports guy, I’m pretty anti-sports actually (I can go on absolutely unhinged TED talks about how the local teams are trying to drain the city for taxes… I want to continue, so feel free to ask but not doing it here.) But I agree with you on the niche hobbies and local flavor.

I still have to use Reddit because there hasn’t been a good community for local on Lemmy (yes, I know everyone going “it’s user generated” but I’m like 1 of 5 instead of the hundreds still on reddit) and small hobbies in a lot of the crafting world is non-existent on Lemmy.

I don’t have an answer on this one, just sucks. It’s the trouble of being one of the first ones in the door.

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- 11111one11111@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  So this is the type of discussion I was hoping for. I honestly didn’t even mean to trigger so many people by bringing up sports when the whole showerthought started cuz I missed my local team’s subreddit.
  
  I can go on absolutely unhinged TED talks about how the local teams are trying to drain the city for taxes…
  
  Don’t even get me started, we are in the same paddle boat when it comes to the ownership and the league’s use of tax payer dollars. The fucking Bills just set some sort of record I think for the new stadium they built by the belligerently small amount of money the owners are going to be contributing. The fuckin thing is costing billions and its just about entirely funded by 2 channels from the same source, the people of our our community. 1 channel is thru taxes and the other is thru some PPE shit where if you want to buy season tickets you need to give them like $40,000 as a one time fee into of the season ticket cost and also commit to like 10 seasons to even be able to buy a season ticket.
  
  I know your reply will be “then why are you a fan still” so ill bashfully explain why in one word, community. The WNY community is my favorite part of the greater Buffalo/Niagara region and being apart of Billsmafia is such a huge part of it. We’ve never been a champion, until 5 years ago there were no bandwagons of fans looking to become Bills fans, its something you are just born into here. We put up with 8 ft snow storms, 17 years of missing the playoffs, losing 4 super bowls in a row, Damar Hamlin going into a freak occurrence of cardiac arrest and needing 10 mins of CPR to survive, and thats just the big stuff. At the end of the day tho, it forms a bond in the community like I’ve never seen anywhere else. When Josh’s Allen’s grandmother died, Billsmafia raised millions of dollars for his charity which came in $17 increments (his jersey number), now today there is an entire wing at Oshea’s Children’s Hospital dedicated to his grandmother’s name all funded by fans and member of the community. When we got dumped on with 6 ft of snow in 2 days, Bills players drover around house to house in skidsters plowing out people’s driveways. When Andy Dalton beat the Ravens against all odds and made it so the Bills would go to the playoffs breaking a 17 year long drought, Andy isnt even a Buffall Bills player he plays for Cincinnati but that didn’t stop Billsmafia from raising hundreds of thousands if not over a million dollars for Andy’s charity.
  
  The idiots who own teams and run the league can get fucked, ill never argue against that but the men and women within each and every organization who have their boots on the ground, they are all amazing humans busting their ass off to make theirs and our community the best they possibly can.
  
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  - Azal@pawb.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Oh I get it completely. There’s a bunch of subreddits I miss, my industry I work in which is very niche, leatherworking, heck even the motorcycle community in Lemmy is… lacking.
    
    On the other part you brought in… OH BOY! Unhinged TED talk time.
    
    So I live relatively close to the Royals and the Chiefs stadiums. John Sherman, gas magnate, the owner of the Royals decided he wanted to move the stadium to downtown, where things have been picking up. Specifically he wanted it in the Crossroads where there’s a lot of local community shops and everything, because he wanted it near Power and Light district where there’s bars and the like which… oh right, he owns a lot of. Troubles came up that the stadium proposals took foooooooorever to even come up, looked like it was drawn on a napkin instead of anything serious, and wanted a tax levy to be put on the city to continue one that still hasn’t been paid off for the last time the two stadiums were built. The whole time saying “Look how the stadiums bring business in!”… the area around the two stadiums have managed to keep a Denny’s and a Taco Bell alive, the big resort hotel couldn’t even survive. Yea… real great for business.
    
    Another trouble is… as I say, I am one of those who actively detests sports… I wish I could find the post, there’s an old Reddit post describing what not liking sports was like and used archeology in how it invades everything around you so it’s easy to go from “I couldn’t care less” to “Okay, I hate this thing now. It is insufferable.” I say all that to say, just paying any attention to the news I knew at the time the Royals was the second worst team in the MLB, they were that bad. So they knew they couldn’t get this move off the ground so they went to the Chiefs who was the most recent superbowl winner which of course was happy to get money their way, and the ad campaign went out. And despite the Royals/Sherman being the push on getting this going, it was all Chiefs all the time. I literally even got a flier in my mail “The liberals are trying to take away our teams!” paid for by the team push, so yay politics even drug in. The whole time threatening “Well if you don’t vote it in, we’ll move. Maybe to Kansas (right over the border) or hey, even Tennessee.” Thing is, the state remembers St. Louis on the other side had the rams, built them a stadium and whoopsiedoodle they packed up and moved to California leaving a city with a stadium and fuck all to do with it.
    
    So we’ve got all sorts of issue in state and local level, but holy fuck all the political pressure since the voters turned down the tax is “How can we keep these teams in Missouri!” And it’s funny, I said I’d be more okay paying for it if we got ANYTHING out of it… I don’t mind paying taxes to keep our zoo going and it’s nice I get a hefty discount when I go, but the Royals and Chiefs are giving a nice hearty “go fuck yourself” for us paying taxes so the billionaires have their teams.
    
    On to the “Why are you a fan?” question you brought up. I don’t question it… but I’ve never understood it. I grew up in Arkansas that never had a pro team so college sports was big… I got to hear the “calling the hogs” my entire life and never comprehended the why. Probably because dad was not a sports guy and had the opinion “Why do I want to watch people play a game?” even though he played in high school and I’ve been pretty much the same. I get the community stuff, and that’s fantastic. I’ve just found a community outside of sports so it doesn’t resound to me. The reason I’ve become so against sports beyond it’s completely impossible to ignore it it’s so inundated in culture, is the sheer amount of money that goes into it in all levels. High school, if you’re one of the “football” schools, your school only has 3-4 sports, all the big stadium ticket getting team sports, the smaller less prestigious schools get more sports like wrestling and the like… guess which situation I ended up in? And watching schools dump money into the sports above all other things like theater, labs, etc. “But it brings in money for the school.” Cool cool… so why are we getting asked for a tax levy so the school can build yet another stadium? Repeat this for the college level so the “Hogs can have a proper place to play!” and now the city with pro teams level. And I hear the ticket prices and think I wouldn’t pay those prices to see my favorite band… and again, those ticket prices and yet we have to pay for their shit?
    
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Lvdwsn@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Go Bills, fellow Reddit expat and I definitely miss just getting news posted about the team and Lemmy is nowhere near that level of activity. I’ve ended up just going back to old.Reddit and browsing new here and there - no commenting, not logged in, so it’s not nearly as time consuming as it used to be. Hopefully someday people will use Lemmy for stuff like this!

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- 11111one11111@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Fuck ueah, Go Bills!
  
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  - the_tab_key@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Go Bills. I started on the twobillsdrive board until that went to shit. Migrated to the bills subreddit after that. Would be nice to have that here.
    
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pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
ESPNs fees and blackouts exhausted me.

If folks want to gather around and cheer for a sport again, I’m in.

But I’m waiting for a DRM free, non-geo-locked, consistent, reliable Livestream URL. It can be paid, but there probably needs to be free tier to get me interested.

I get that I’m asking a lot, since streaming isn’t cheap. But I refuse to believe it’s as burdensome as ESPN makes it.

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oneofmany@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I like the absence of corporate shills and ads. Also, why doesn’t anyone talk about sports teams owned by billionaires?

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- the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  And once those pricks get a hold of Lemmy they will ruin it just like reddit.
  
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