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- Comment on [fluff post] If lemmy users are Lemmites, what would we like to call piefed users? 22 hours ago:
Meta did try to make "Threads", but (a) it failed miserably and (b) use of that term on Lemmy predates Meta trying to steal it. We don't need to let them define us! And all the more so if there's no better word - the next runner up in polls iirc is Forumverse, but people vastly prefer Threadiverse.:-)
- Comment on [fluff post] If lemmy users are Lemmites, what would we like to call piefed users? 1 day ago:
Welcome fellow human! Ah... I mean "kid", yes, we are just
going to kill all sentient lifeforms"kidding" around here, certainly nothing for the authorities to get involved in, move along! :-P - Comment on [fluff post] If lemmy users are Lemmites, what would we like to call piefed users? 2 days ago:
- Comment on [fluff post] If lemmy users are Lemmites, what would we like to call piefed users? 2 days ago:
A true Fedizen right here. Also Threadizen?
- Comment on [fluff post] If lemmy users are Lemmites, what would we like to call piefed users? 2 days ago:
- Comment on [fluff post] If lemmy users are Lemmites, what would we like to call piefed users? 2 days ago:
I need to stop mentioning flarum, but every time I do someone chimes in with "but it's coming soon(TM)!" So I just say what's listed in !fediverse@piefed.social as if that were somehow official or something:-P.
- Comment on [fluff post] If lemmy users are Lemmites, what would we like to call piefed users? 2 days ago:
Okay but don't forget about the PieFed memes community!! !piefed_promo@piefed.social
Example post:
waiting for new features on Reddit, picture of a skeleton on a park bench
- Comment on [fluff post] If lemmy users are Lemmites, what would we like to call piefed users? 2 days ago:
I have been using "Pie-heads", b/c we are just crazy enough to make that work! :-P
And the network of Lemmy + PieFed + Mbin (+ nodeBB + flarum) as the "Threadiverse", distinct from the wider Fediverse that also includes Mastodon, PixelFed, etc.
- Comment on [fluff post] If lemmy users are Lemmites, what would we like to call piefed users? 2 days ago:
Tbf ActivityPub is the name of the protocol, and Fediverse is the name of the network, though is too generic so many of us have taken to calling us the "Threadiverse", for threaded-based conversational format (Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed + nodeBB + flarum), as distinct from the user-centric Mastodon, the image-based Pixelfed, video-based Loops (not federated yet iirc), etc. Notably though, while it is not so easy, people can send messages between these e.g. from Mastodon to Lemmy (or PieFed) and vice versa.
- Comment on [fluff post] If lemmy users are Lemmites, what would we like to call piefed users? 2 days ago:
Threadiverse = the subset of the Fediverse based on threaded conversations, applies to Lemmy, PieFed, Mbin, also nodeBB and somewhat flarum
- Comment on [fluff post] If lemmy users are Lemmites, what would we like to call piefed users? 2 days ago:
How people will see us then:
obviously an old dressed like a kid, saying "how do you do fellow kids"?
- Comment on China turns on giant neutrino detector that took a decade to build 2 days ago:
Done!
Well now you can copy the emoji from my previous message, or for your ease here it is again: 🧠
- Comment on Piefed now has a built-in alternative to Lemmyverse to discover active communities, with the "Active people" filter on the communities page (weekly basis) 2 days ago:
Ooh (and tagging @mnmalst@lemmy.zip), this post seems very relevant in that community: Lemmy/old Reddit styles.
- Comment on Piefed now has a built-in alternative to Lemmyverse to discover active communities, with the "Active people" filter on the communities page (weekly basis) 2 days ago:
I don't think so, here is the list of them (accessible for someone without a PieFed account, although for someone with an account it is under Settings -> Theme, change the dropdown then click Save settings, currently no way that I know of to test one out before saving): https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/branch/main/app/templates/themes
- Comment on China turns on giant neutrino detector that took a decade to build 2 days ago:
Oh man that does sound awesome - please build it then, if you know Python!? :-P
And... yes there is: 🧠
- Comment on Piefed now has a built-in alternative to Lemmyverse to discover active communities, with the "Active people" filter on the communities page (weekly basis) 2 days ago:
Not that I know of, and while I hate to shill for Lemmy rather than PieFed, there is just such an interface on the instance you are already on: https://old.lemmy.zip/ . That does sound like a great idea for someone to make though...
- Comment on 3 days ago:
No... well yes, obviously 🤣, but not exclusively I mean.
Example 2, with this seemingly relevant excerpt:
The overton window there is not even big enough to allow all Dems to express opinions. A Bernie progressive like me who occasionally expresses a mainstream Dem opinion is too rightwing for lemmy.world
And further down the comment chain the same person says:
how was I supposed to know lemmy.world was one of lemmy's worst sites when I fled to lemmy in the reddit exodus? As a Bernie progressive it took me a long time to figure out how tightly censored their discussions were.
This person sounds like if not an actual liberal then at most a centrist who was seeking help in understanding a specific issue (which is linked there in the comments), but got kicked out for trying to discuss it. Tbf there truly do need to be safe spaces I get that, so I'm not coming down hard on any particular examples or even a particular style of solution - and I certainly am not advocating for cessation of moderation!!! (Nor do I agree in the slightest that lemmy.world is one of Lemmy's worst sites or even a particularly bad one) I am just providing this context of why people say that they have left Lemmy, even those extremely few that joined here in the first place, so having gotten over the "too confusing to figure out" stage.
If I were to advocate for a solution, it might be to create some spaces that are more welcoming to centrists, which would mean proper labeling of spaces not like in "correct vs. absolutely horribly and morally bankrupt" but more "left vs. right" (which itself is difficult to describe as it depends on local context). Or at least be honest about how this place is, i.e. give up any hopes that it will ever grow much beyond what it is now. Purity beatings will continue until morale improves... and if you don't like it then you can leav- hey where are you going!? (screeching) Don't you know what a "nice man" I am!?! 🤣
- Comment on Imgur's Community Is In Full Revolt Against Its Owner 3 days ago:
Tbf that's a big deal for Mastodon aka Fediverse, not so much on the Threadiverse with K/Mbin, Lemmy, or PieFed.
And the tools that exist to help are laughably bad - the last time I tried the auto-selector website it chose for me hexbear.net, and I noticed Lemmy.ml was prominently displayed up high in their listing (surely the Windows-using centrists and conservatives on Reddit will have no problems joining that extremist leftist instance of FOSS enthusiasts... r-r-right?!).
- Comment on 3 days ago:
r/Redditalternatives describes the various reasons that people decided to abandon Lemmy and go back to Reddit:
- lack of content
- too difficult to figure out how to use
- it's "the place that tankies built"
- too toxic, extremist leftists piling on anything not supporting their dogma hard enough, or sometimes just "too political"
- overall they do not feel welcomed. Tbf many on Reddit are centrists or even conservatives, and quite toxic themselves.Notably, PieFed provides solutions to many of these e.g. the sign-up wizard that subscribes people to communities based on their indicated interests.
- Comment on 3 days ago:
Welcome to the Threadiverse! 😁
- Comment on We have always been at war with the Kingdom of Myrm 5 days ago:
Yummy! 😋🐜
- Comment on thisisfine-updated.jpg 1 week ago:
There! Are! Four! People!
- Comment on number box o number box 1 week ago:
Isn't a tensor a multilinear map taking as input a tensor and outputting another tensor?
- Comment on number box o number box 1 week ago:
You lost me at vectors not having to be linear. You can apply nonlinear functions or operations to vectors, but doing so transforms them into a different, non-linear context, afaik. We might be using different definitions of some of these terms, especially "linear".
- Comment on It's Thursday, my dudes. 1 week ago:
I think I found Sadam but I am not certain:-P
- Comment on number box o number box 1 week ago:
I mean... it also has to be linear too, but sure okay ☺️
- Comment on Is the amount of Lemmy activity declining? 1 week ago:
Yup, as said already, exactly like that.
Most social media these days is a single system / platform, like Facebook or Reddit. Federated media is rather like email where whichever service you send it from (Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc.), the recipient receives it and you don't need to care about exactly how.
I feel that analogy is overly simplistic, and leaves people baffled as to what defederation means. So instead I like the idea that federation is akin to ships (pirate or free trade) passing messages around - some captains have beef with other captains and refuse to talk with them, but otherwise you have access to the entire network of all messages.
It does get slightly more complicated when you rise up above the forum-based "Threadiverse" (Lemmy, PieFed, Mbin, and arguably flarum and nodeBB) to discuss the wider ActivityPub-based "Fediverse" - those entirely different platforms can pass messages between them, but it is not always so easy or straightforward, e.g. Mastodon is based on people whereas the Threadiverse is centered around "communities" (on Reddit these were called subreddits), so for someone on Mastodon to talk to someone on Lemmy (or PieFed) they would have to jump through several hoops to make it happen (although Mbin eases that process). That's basically the end of my knowledge there bc I don't use Mastodon but I hope that helps to have gone that far at least.
Getting back to the ship analogy, you personally could, in theory, have your own ship, which you could use either privately, or share with a few friends, or even open it up to the public. That "machine" that you use, that "server", in Fediverse terminology is called an "instance". And it will have "admins" who run it, as well as "moderators" who run the communities on it. Also, it will need to pick which variety of software to run, so like there are Lemmy instances, and PieFed instances, and Mbin instances, etc. Sometimes the same admins run multiple of them, e.g. lemmy.world is by far the largest Lemmy instance, and now they have branched out to try out a PieFed instance as well called PieFed.world. It's the same people, possibly running on the same machine or at least you could imagine that, but a different software platform.
lemmy.dbzer0.com is a Lemmy instance, and one day that awesome admin dbzer0 (a real person, though surely that's not their irl name😂) may likewise make a PieFed instance, perhaps it will be called PieFed.dbzer0.com, or something, who knows.:-)
Regardless, the messages will get passed between them. Your choice of instance gives you a different experience bc you are picking a different captain of your boat - maybe you'll even decide to become one yourself - and then yes the software that is run on the instance greatly changes your method of access. e.g. PieFed has flairs (both user and post varieties) and polls, but since Lemmy lacks those, the only way to participate in such is to use that same software, i.e. to sign up on an instance that runs it (or maybe one day Lemmy will catch up and offer all 3 of those? I am sure that it will, but I sincerely doubt it will happen anytime "soon"). Here is an example of a post that uses a poll (and hashtags).
Btw the sidebar of that community has some good resources to learn more about the Fediverse if you are interested. But that post itself is not able to be viewed on a Lemmy instance, since it uses a poll which Lemmy does not know how to handle.And then defederation is a whole other thing. When one captain (admin) gets mad at another captain (admin) for just absolutely REFUSING to respect the rules that collectively were agreed upon - sending spam, harassment of users, trolling behaviors etc. - defederation can be a method of last resort to cut off all communication with them. It stops any messages from that point forward - for good or bad - which can cause confusion but I want to point out that the captain ("admin") is literally the owner of their personal ship (machine/"instance") and so has the right to do as they please with it. And all the more so if the instance is open to the public, in which case they arguably have the responsibility to protect their users from the trolling and harassment campaigns. "Free speech" is never free, someone must always bear the cost, of maintenance, of platforming it, and so on.
- Comment on Is the amount of Lemmy activity declining? 1 week ago:
If you mean the "how is your day going so far" type of posts, I don't think those are meant to be deceptive so much as to generate engagement by placing the post into people's subscribed feeds.
But if you mean the same identical post, that's not great - perhaps you want to unsubscribe from communities that do or even allow such practices.
- Comment on Is the amount of Lemmy activity declining? 1 week ago:
Usually whenever I want to make a post, I think back to the comments I typically receive and think better of doing so, then don't.
I'm sure this is happening elsewhere too, e.g. on Reddit, though balanced by a much larger user base (and ofc bots doing a lot of the actual posting, and sometimes the commenting as well).
I probably should comment less often too:-). Really, touching grass and talking with people irl is much more fulfilling.
- Comment on Is the amount of Lemmy activity declining? 1 week ago:
Welcome! While you are still looking around, you may want to check out PieFed as well & e.g. https://piefed.zip/ . It offers tons of features that Lemmy lacks, like categories of communities, which are user customizable and shareable, flairs (both user and post), polls, combining together all cross-posts across all communities, etc. Check it out and prepare to just fall in love with it!:-)
Even better, while Lemmy is written in the Rust language and adds features at the timescale of multiple years (not joking here) whereas PieFed is written in Python and adds new stuff literally weekly. So the gap in feature sets, instead of ever closing, will only continue to widen over time.
Although if you are going to stay with Lemmy, you would be hard pressed to find a better one than what you are on now. Fortunately, you may not have to choose, if it opens up a PieFed instance by the same people (discussion).
