Theres 3 things i never buy on day one. That’s everything, and 2 other things. I also don’t buy games that require 3rd party launchers, or require accounts except the ones i do buy.
Players Have Too Many Options to Spend $80 on a Video Game
Submitted 1 day ago by Ashtear@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world
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qwet@lemm.ee 3 hours ago
Almacca@aussie.zone 5 hours ago
I’m over the massive, over-produced games. I looked at the price of the new Indiana Jones game (AUD119), and even though I loved Machine Games’ previous work, I noped out. These days, I’m mostly reverting to simple arcade games more akin to the early era of gaming I grew up on. Shotgun Cop Man, from the people that made My Friend Pedro, just came out. It was $13. Finished it in one sitting, but I’ll probably play it multiple times. Much better investment.
dinckelman@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The amount of options isn’t the issue.
For most 25-40€ games I buy, i can get a great experience for the next 30-50 hours.
Indie games absolutely crush the statistics, where some sub-15€ roguelikes have such insane replayability, that i’ve clocked over a thousand hours into a couple. Not to mention how incredibly creative, unique, and story rich some of them are.
Meanwhile, what used to be 60€, and is now 80€+, is some “cinematic” 20fps on console slop, that you can barely get 5 hours of real gameplay out of. I don’t wanna sit there and watch a movie with an occasional A button press. Or even worse, play something like the Assassins Creed reboot, that had 500 hours of gameplay, 490 of which is just useless collectibles around the map.
Brokkr@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Would be interested to know what games you have >500 hours in. Especially if they aren’t multi-player online games.
tal@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Not run through Steam, so no Steam stats (though available on Steam) but I’m sure that they’re way up there:
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Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup, though that’s going back a few years.
Some others with a fair bit of playtime:
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Steel Division II (really primarily a multiplayer game, but I only play single-player)
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Elite: Dangerous. Though I don’t remember how I accumulated that many hours. Wasn’t super-impressed with the game, and would have sworn that I’d have more time in X3 (though maybe that gets split across the DLC or something).
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Carrier Command 2 (Primarily intended to be played multiplayer, but I play single-player)
trinsec@piefed.social 1 day ago
RimWorld ...
Yermaw@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Minecraft, slay the spire, civilisation, atomicrops.
Balatro could have been a contender but I lost interest suddenly and unexpectedly.
Tetris spoiler
NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Stellaris, civ v, oxygen not included, city skylines, x4, workers and resources: soviet republic, kerbal space program.
teft@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Baldur’s Gate 3, Cyberpunk, Kingdom Come Deliverance, Witcher 3, Fallout
Really any RPG you can easily get 1000 hours of play.
dom@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Factorio, stardew, civ vi are my top 3.
poleslav@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Well I’m not them, but for me: KSP1: 1800.8 hours. Current cost $40 = $0.02 an hour DCS: 1294.7 hours. Money spent eh $300 = $0.23 an hour Witcher 3: 1131.5 hours. Current cost: $40 = $0.03 an hour. Civ vi: 589.9 hours. Current cost: $60 = $0.10 an hour Stardew valley: 579.3 hours. current cost $15 = $0.026 an hour Fall out new Vegas: 543.6 hours. Current cost: $10 = $0.0018 an hour
Now if we add in the $2000 worth of peripherals I have to play dcs it’s cost balloons quite a bit but, it’s not terribly difficult to get high playtimes in cheap games. I would also say the cost per hour for me is double or triple what it actually is, as these are the current prices, and besides dcs I buy everything only on sale lol.
echutaaa@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Factorio, eu4, stellaris, satisfactory, slay the spire, etc
dinckelman@lemmy.world 1 day ago
For indie and cheaper stuff specifically? The Binding of Isaac is over 1k hours between my two copies. Rimworld, Factorio, and Terraria are all close to 500h as well. If Minecraft counts as one for you, this is an outlier with roughly 4k hours since 2011.
Otherwise, I am quite into MMOs and story-rich singleplayer RPGs, so there’s a handful of them with well over several thousands of hours played too.
DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 1 day ago
FTL for me
mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 day ago
Peglin for me. Cheaper world games I have an insane amount of hours in.
icecreamtaco@lemmy.world 1 day ago
XIV, but I never engage with other players aside from solo queue for dungeons etc
msage@programming.dev 1 day ago
Terraria is the easiest one.
I wish I had more time to play other single player time sinks like Dwarf Fortress, or even BeamNG.drive.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 day ago
It kills me the the Jedi games, TLoU2, GoW games, they’re fun but they’re what, max 30 hours to beat? And they’re trying to up the price to 80?
Red dead 2 deserves 80. Cyberpunk in its current state could deserve 80. Both are around 100-120 hour games and I’ve replayed them multiple times. 30 hour games by proportion deserve a quarter of the price.
falidorn@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Never will understand people equating monetary value with how long they spend time with a game. Quality /= quantity or else Ubisoft and gacha games would be the best games of all time.
IronKrill@lemmy.ca 7 hours ago
y’all keep saying this but playing 1 round of Valorant will make you realise pretty quick how easily people drop $80+ on a game.
sheogorath@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
I know a guy who only buys games as last resort but bought all the gooner skins in Rivals.
PanArab@lemm.ee 17 hours ago
I will continue to wait until games go on discount
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 day ago
But it still spooked Wall Street, as parent company Take-Two Interactive Software Inc.’s shares plummeted as much as 10% following the news.
I think our economy might be predicated entirely on stupid.
Also, $80 is a lot when typical people’s buying power is decreasing. I think like half of americans can’t tank a $500 surprise bill, and they want people to blow nearly 20% of that on a video game? Fuck off, capitalists.
creamlike504@jlai.lu 1 day ago
We (the gaming community) say this every time, but microtransactions and lootboxes have spread like viruses because gamers are buying them.
I hate predatory pricing on principle, but whale votes count for a lot more.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 day ago
Those systems are literally designed to be psychologically addictive and prey on those weakest to such tactics. It’s not stupidity; it’s literal brain washing.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 day ago
I don’t think I’ve ever bought a microtransaction or cosmetic. I’m doing my part!
*Ok, i think I paid like $5 into warframe after 200 hours, and I used some fake money from google surveys on pokemon go, so I’m not entirely without sin.
moody@lemmings.world 1 day ago
(Which from my perspective is very silly — what’s the difference between them making a kajillion dollars in the fall and them making a kajillion dollars in May?)
This “article” was written by a moron who doesn’t seem to know anything about the stock market. I guess it shouldn’t be too surprising for Bloomberg.
Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Jason Schreier is not a no-name. I would expect the guy to figure it out, if he thought about it for a moment. But yeah, the whole article seems a bit rushed…
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I live in LATAM. I bought civ v once and never stopped playing it since
I don’t know who’s all this people who can buy games every launch, but they must be so incredibly privileged
Phegan@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Don’t pre order games. Don’t buy games at full price. Support indie devs.
lobut@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I will buy indie games at full price, thank you very much.
Zahille7@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I bought Schedule 1 for the full $20 last week.
I can’t stop playing. It’s too fun.
piyuv@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Do buy great indie games at full price to support indie devs even more (stardew, Balatro, dead cells, hollow knight, terraria, rimworld….)
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’ll still buy FromSoft games at full price. But only because I know they won’t disappoint. And Took Taro’s games.
But in general, it would be beneficial for more people to spend less on games.
caseofthematts@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
So what’s the difference for Nintendo fans that love any Mario or Zelda game, for example? I’m not trying to be an ass here, but what makes your specific “I only buy this full price” a better decision than someone else’s “I only buy this at full price”?
trashboat@midwest.social 1 day ago
Honestly itch.io has plenty of free indie gems that can last me just as long as throwing $80 at a AAA game. I’d rather donate/tip after the fact for genuine well-crafted experiences
Zahille7@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
I absolutely love Manic Miners (the fan remake of the old Rock Raiders game). The customization so you can make your own mining crew, all the old-school parts that are in the game, everything about it is fantastic.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Tell the Nintendo crowd lol
Stern@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I have 170 games in my backlog and the summer sale is coming. I ain’t spending 80 bucks on one video game.
notannpc@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What AAA title is worth $80? The most time I spend gaming is in a 10 year old shooter, and an indie survival game. Both of which I bought for <$20.
piyuv@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
One you can spend at least 40 enjoyable hours on, I’d say
MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
I’d say GTA VI would likely earn that for me. I’ll probably spend over 80 hours on that.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
There’s plenty of jrpgs half that price point with twice the length though. Heck, even the previous GTAs have at least that length for a cheaper price, and are occasionally even cheaper now. Be patient and you’ll likely even get the game given away for free.
Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
KCD2 Is pretty damn amazing.
carlossurf@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
Yeah and its worth the 80$ cause it takes like 80 hours to finish lol
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 17 hours ago
I’ve only bought one $80 game thus far (And that was during a 30% steam sale so only $55) and from my years of experience of buying games, I can confidently say that my enjoyment in games goes down as price goes up.
Although weirdly all of the $80 games that released so far have been pretty bad so that’s strange.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Nintendo fans gonna
beg daddy for another round of the beltappreciate Nintendo’s innovationmadjo@feddit.nl 23 hours ago
And Microsoft and the other “tRiPlE A” and “QuAdRuPlE A” publishers think they can ride on daddy Ninty’s coattails.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 20 hours ago
The difference being that Nintendo makes unbelievable amounts of money because Nintendo fanboys won’t stop opening up their wallets. Microsoft doesn’t have that kind of loyalty or revenue (and you can bet Sony is going to join the club before the year is out).
JTskulk@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I made a rule that I can’t spend over $10 on a game until I’ve played through my entire backlog. I haven’t bought a game over $10 in 10 years and I’ve spent $6k on Steam since I started using it.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I pirate games first before buying. Too many games become shit past the return window on Steam. I buy every game I like.
adept@programming.dev 19 hours ago
You can return games after the 2h return window. Its just that under 2h is an automated refund
Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It sucks that waiting for a sale might only bring down to the original $50 new full price it used to be.
Just have to wait longer I guess.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 day ago
patientgamers@sh.itjust.works
The amount of games on the PC is way to large to be buying right away.
Septian@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I can wait as long as necessary – just means more time for the factory to grow. Factorio was the best value I’ve ever had out of $30.
commander@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Not buying it. GTAV was the least played for me in the series besides the first 2 games. I thought it’s story was a major downgrade compared to Vice City through GTAIV. I feel like GTAV was a pullback from any bit of endearing human spirit to leaning heavily into wacky self-aware sarcasm. Not that the series wasn’t that. Just that 5 to me was an edgy non-clever series parody. It’s not that different than Far Cry. Empty commentary. Just mocking everything. Felt more affection in the 3 series and 4
Regardless since GTAIV, we’ve had a gluttony of open world games. Even the battle royale games I think fill in a niche for social multiplayer that’s wacky and real world pop culture referential. GTAVI and it’s RP community support I think will be what sends it past or below GTAV success. High sales expectations but I’m more tepid than most
B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 1 day ago
!patientgamers@sh.itjust.works
There are so many options out there that asking for $80, or whatever the equivalent is, is just ridiculous. I really hope people stand up against this bulshit.
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
For the GTA delay, if it is so they can release a less bug filled finished product instead of the usual AAA strategy as of late of throwing whatever out and maybe kinda patching it later on, then good on them for doing it how it should be done. I probably won’t buy it either way since I haven’t cared for the ton of any of the GTA games since San Andreas personally, but for the people that will it is a good thing.
As for the price of games in general. I’m not opposed to theoretically paying $80, or even more, for a game I deem worth that kind of money. Never have been. The issue is 99% of the time the games in question aren’t worth that kind of money. As an example, I am a Hitman fan. Over the course of the varies releases since 2016 to what is now just called Hitman: World of Assassination, I have spent well over $100 for maps and content. And I don’t regret it because the end result is a huge game that I have gotten untold hours of enjoyment out of over the last ~9 years.
The AAA players have simply started to price themselves out of their own market, and smaller players have started to fill the void they left behind.
InfiniteHench@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Just like other aspects of commerce, we’ll see what the market does. I hate to say it that way, but that’s simply how it works. Look at what’s happening to McDonalds right now. They’ve been raising prices for years, now tariffs have made things even worse, and people have responded accordingly and go to McDonalds less. Ball is in their court.
Another good example is the recent news about Beyoncé no longer filling major concert venues. I know there’s a lot of factors going on in these situations, but the truth at the core of it is that prices finally went up to a point where a not insignificant portion of her audience noped out of the transaction. Simple commerce.
Gorusnor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
You guys pay for games, i feel sorry for you. That is a massive debuff to gamers
Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
That’s basically what I’ve been saying ever since the switch 2 announcement, I’m glad I can just copy the Sources from this article to support my intuition. Thank you, Superjoost!
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I think Titanfall 2 is still on sale on steam for uh… 5 dollars.
Its got Northstar, a custom client that allows for private multiplayer servers… also works on linux, literally has its own custom proton version.
Oh and there are mods as well, guided installers, mod managers, etc, for windows and linux.
Runs great on a steam deck!
… and looks … basically the same as a shooter from 10 years later, at least at 1280 x 800?
(its built on a custom forked version of the portal 2 source engine, so it actually runs efficiently and looks good =D)
Doesn’t have a huge playerbase, but it is decent enough that you can probably find a few well populated servers, at least in NA region.
… looks like titanfall 3 got turned into an extraction shooter and then cancelled.
So anyway yeah, hilariously its time to return to tradition for enthusiasts of many old school competetive games from before the bullshit of endless battlepasses and MTX kicked into high gear… and as others have pointed out, the indie scene is full of gems.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Titanfall 2 has the last great FPS campaign. Nothing has come out since that’s nearly as good.
CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I just like to add that it has an oft forgotten 4 player PvE coop mode. Also low on players, but not dead, and if you’re lucky enough to have some friends you can guarantee a match. And there are usually populated Northstar servers for it as well. It’s a great mode with progression and the signature combat experience in Titan and as a pilot.
renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf 1 day ago
At garage sales books can often be found for 25 cents a piece (320 books in $80).
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 day ago
For the last 10 years I’ve only played full price for one AAA game: Elden Ring.
I’m happy to wait for sales on everything else, including the secondary market for Nintendo games, but after their recent fuckery in multiple arenas, I’m not keen buying anything they produce. (Not that it matters. Their stuff will sell regardless.)
MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 1 day ago
I’ve said this elsewhere before but video games are a commodity and an impulse buy. Very few people view the next video game as an essential purchase for themselves. So sure people can have them and haha about how much the cost of developing a video game has gone up till they’re blue in the face but that is not going to change how the consumer will feel at the register buying the game. If the person at the register does not feel that the price is justified they’re not going to pay it they’re going to wait for a sale, borrow it from a friend if they can get access to physical media, or pirate it.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 19 minutes ago
certainly wont purchase a 80$ game with mid-tier playability.