Submitted 1 year ago by rosco385@lemm.ee to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
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Sure, there was the attempted assassination of Reagan and the fears for Obama as the first black President, but in those cases it was a lone nutter rather than a conspiracy.
How long can Trump crash the market before an angry billionaire decides to take him out? The remaining Koch brother is already pouring money into legal challenges against Trump…
If it didnt happen last time, and a close yet unsuccessful attempt was made this time. My money is on, Trump lives to start harping about a third term in 2028.
If it happens, its going to be a gavrillo princip type of deal, the more planning that goes into it, the more likely the conspirators get caught simply for the amount of surveilence that goes on in this world.
if anyone is going to merk a world leader. its going to be something spur of the moment, wrong turn, wrong person, wrong time.
its going to be something spur of the moment, wrong turn, wrong person, wrong time.
The way history likes to repeat, it’ll be something stupid involving a sandwich
See my money is Krasnov going out like Elvis
Some damned foolish thing in the Balkans
Donny dumps wanted dunkin donuts and didn’t expect hole in his head?
CIA with Israel killed JFK. Israel picked Trump as the most supportive of genocide. It’s fair that every other politician would still support it, though perhaps not as far as a war on Iran.
The CIA is a “US Corporatist global champion deal facilitator”. But Trump has picked loyalists at the top of intelligence and military apparatus. Unlike the past, where best people, defined as pure warmongering evil devoted, had these jobs, current batch of diaper licking appointees lose their jobs if “crazy daddy” impeached/exterminated from policy relevance.
So none of “JFK’s checks and balances” apply today. Russia war not as important as maximum zionism.
Why would Israel want JFK dead?
CIA with Israel killed JFK
Yeah, I’m gonna <citation needed> that claim
JFK movie, Oliver Stone, got a lot of it right, with mob cutouts including Jacob Rubenstein. The Israel motivation is the threat to force zionist supremacists to register as foreign agents, and disapproved of Israel’s nuclear program. Global peace rhethoric, and lack of full war on Cuba, Laos, Vietnam made a lot of other enemies within US.
The obvious coverup of the assassination, was not to protect a small gang of agitators where involvement would end, unless they could rat out higher ups.
It’s made up bullshit with zero evidence.
a large enough mob could pull him out of mar a lago. i’m not saying it would be easy.
true just wage an insurrection against mar a lago, lmao, it’s all legal anyway, it’s just a “protest”
/s ofc
Have you seen the robotic dogs waundering that place?
But, you’re right, a large enough mob could break into anywhere.
I think by the time we hit 2026 there will be tens of millions who voted MAGA who wish that last year’s attempt would have succeeded, but logistically, it’s basically impossible now. Anything that might get Trump would probably have to be powerful enough to take out a whole crowd, and that’s just very unlikely.
You have said the actual truth
Anything that might get Trump would probably have to be powerful enough to take out a whole crowd, and that’s just very unlikely.
Hard disagree, Ukraine takes consumer drones and turns them into pinpoint bombers or ultra fast suicide drones.
IMO the only reason political violence hasn’t been more common is people afraid of losing what they have. But they’re soon to lose it anyway.
Except for the assassination of Abe, which was a resounding success by any measure. The perp got everything he wanted and more.
President Garfield also got merked. Mostly the fault of an RFK-grade doctor than the actual shooter, though. I hope we get that for Trump - he deserves to die at the paws of his own incompetent administration.
i still wonder. HOW DID THAT ONE GUY MISS?!
Did anyone actually bother to xray his head?
Half of me still thinks that whole “attempt” was staged
I also wondered that, but honestly man there’s almost no fucking way. 😂 That was a very real bullet, that went through his ear, and killed the man behind him. Combine that with all the different random-ass factors others have mentioned with the ludicrously small margin of error. Turn your head at just the right time or fucking die.
Combine that with the shooter being a random child that looks like he had fetal alcohol syndrome, that’s the “man” carefully staging a very near-miss shooting. 🥴 I mean FFS, look at his face. I wouldn’t trust him with a complicated McD’s order, let alone shooting at my fucking ear and not killing me. 😂
The only way it was staged was if you could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump was very willing to die & become a martyr, which frankly I think he’s not against if it came to that, but it’s very clear the man loves life/living. Trump doesn’t want to die.
Exhibit A: The Photo Op with the fist raised
I mean, who the fuck just stands there like an idiot after a gunman supposedly tried to kill you. It’s like they knew there’s only one gunman. Sus af 🤔
Darkest timeline, am I right?
Range - Trump was over 300 yards away from the shooter.
Equipment - AR pattern rifles ( I think it was a Daniel defense) with a red dot sight. That setup is for quick target acquisition and field of view. It is not meant for hitting distant targets.
Shooting conditions - The shots were taken outdoors, where there was a cross breeze.
Difficult Target - if you’ve ever seen trump on stage, he has this weird wobble he does all the time, which shifts his head rapidly and unpredictably from side to side multiple feet. He had to get hit in the head too. He probably was wearing soft body armor at this point, and there are multiple ambulances nearby and he gets priority medical care. Anything less than instantly lethal would not take him out. So it had to be a headshot.
Counter-fire. There are multiple trained and properly equipped snipers guarding trump. There was an armed policeman trying to get on the building with the shooter. This is not simply lying down at a range and taking your time.
TL; DR - it’s not like videogames.
Range - Trump was over 300 yards away from the shooter.
He was around 150 yards. Not 300.
But if he had a proper target rifle in a better long range caliber and a telescopic sight he would have had a much better chance of succeeding.
At that distance and wind conditions a chest shot would have been better. But he aimed for the head.
If we’re being real, it’s not likely at all. He’s probably safer than Biden was.
Not only does the secret service impose incredibly tight security (not perfect, mind you), but Trump doesn’t go anywhere except the White House and his shithole golf course.
In order to assassinate him, it would probably have to be an inside job. That seems exceptionally unlikely.
He’s also useful. A lot of the kinds of people who might wish to be rid of him back in the day would much rather put him to use for their own ends.
Wouldn’t that be a Reichstag fire 2.0
Yep, expect that. I bet thet they are working on that, choosing right “target”.
I can imagine JD vance declaring martial law, suspending democracy and eliminating the “rebellion”
As much as I hate the guy I hope he isn’t killed. The last thing we need is republicans having a martyr, especially before they find out how bad for them he is.
With tariff fallout there are decent chances they will not have a majority for a long time. After the tariff act of 1930 they went from having 14 seats more than democrats to a low of 16 seats out of 96 In senate in just 8 years. After that they had a senate majority once and congress majority twice in the next 50+ years.
I think the Republicans personally hate him. His only use is as a charismatic rabble rouser. Without him they will lose the only guy truly able to get their movement together.
Unfortunately GOPers are too cowardly to do anything about him.
“The first since Kennedy”
Why not “the second ever”?
Because I assume they passed basic history
Yeah we don’t really learn about American history over here. We learn about the Azteks and Inkas, but that’s about it when it comes to the Americas.
JFK was #4
I perfer him to die from the bullet of his own in a bunker (or natural causes after creating a great recession), so that people can stop worshiping toxicity and learn from the mistakes.
If there is no Hoover, there probably will never be a Roosevelt and the new deal.
Why would a billionaire be angry at Trump?
Martyrdom is an honour that Trump doesn’t deserve. If we are lucky, he will die in prison of old age.
if we’re lucky, he’ll be fed into a chipper shredder feet first on live television as a warning to other would-be fascists.
I’ll take it… it will be annoying to watch people act like he his some great figure but at least the damage he is doing will be over.
We will never be lucky, so somebody shoot him now
You’re going to have a long list of next in lines
I think he’s more likely to have a massive Big Mac Attack and just keel over. Which would be a good thing because the MAGA opportunists will claw each other to pieces trying to be the top dog, or rat or cockroach. It will frag the whole Magapublican party.
Sadly there have been people who lived to be 99 or 100 while having remarkably unhealthy lifestyles.
Wouldn’t really surprise me if Orangeboy happened to possess superlongevity genes. He’s always had pretty incredible luck for stumbling out of the way of just about everything bad that ought to happen to him.
Death from “old age” is more likely.
It could have been “by snu-snu”, but Stormy Daniels failed us…
Unlikely any bigger conspiracy or billionaire will try. They could wait 3.5 years and not have to bother with anything illegal.
MAGA candidates don’t seem to do well without Trump, so even if a republican wins it’s unlikely to be whatever this is.
If he is somehow allowed to take a dump on the constitution and get a 3rd term, maybe.
3.5 years assumes Dems have anyone who could beat him in an election. I have my doubts on that.
2.5 years assumes there will be an election at all, or a fair one. They rigged the last one, they will definitely rig the next one.
But I don’t think he’ll take the chance. He was heavily hated in 2020, and if anything, he is already hated even more. The mid-terms are shaping up to be a blood bath. He can’t afford to lose his congressional majorities in either house, and have Dems take over even one of them, or they’ll control investigative committees with subpoena and arrest power. And this time they will be much more heavily motivated to be aggressive. Americans wanted bold action from Biden, and they didn’t get it, which kept the 2024 race close enough to steal. I just saw Adam Schiff in an interview, and he indicated that the Dems recognize that they didn’t act “boldly” enough, and they suffered at the polls for it. It sounds like they may have learned their lesson.
So he will create a situation in which he can declare Martial Law and suspend elections, and he’ll do it before the mid-terms. My prediction is that it will happen next year, in late-summer/ early fall, after a Hellish summer of violent protests around the country, that he will instigate. He will time his announcement close enough to election day that there won’t be time to get it through the courts, and we will skip a mid-term election for the first time on history.
Dems will scream, but they never actually DO anything, so that will soften up the citizens to accept it when he skips the presidential election, too. Then he doesn’t have to justify why he deserves a third term, his second term will just never end.
He may even start a war (you know he’s itching to do that) to justify keeping Martial Law, and claim he’s only doing what FDR did, and not leaving while a war is going on. That’s not what happened, FDR was fairly elected 4 times, but that’s the excuse he’ll use, and the MAGA Nazis will accept it.
Unless something changes, he can’t run again.
By Kennedy probably if they havent all had their jabs
Official death reason: assassination
Actual death reason: hit by a golf ball.
That is why Luigi is my favorite character when playing Mario Golf.
I’m surprised it hasn’t been taken care of already.
There’s definitely been a few attempts (though I’m not convinced they weren’t false flags)
false flags
Who the fuck tries to do a Photo Op after a gunman tried to kill you?
Also, how did secret service know there’s only one gunman?
Seems fishy 🤔
When that happens y’all are gonna need video proof that you last fucked your couch less that a week ago every time you leave home.
He will die of a heart attack within the next year, but it will be ruled as “natural causes”.
Hitler survived 30+ attempts, so don’t count on it. The people running this simulation wants to watch us suffer.
Not likely enough. There is already enough for his entire office to be the first ones prosecuted for treason but nobody got the balls.
I don’t think it’s at all likely. Trump knows he’s hated, and he isn’t about to go and do a parade in a convertible. More importantly, the secret service knows he’s hated and know they screwed up huge in letting someone take a shot at him, so they’ve dialed security up to 11.
Reagan and JFK were shot at a time when they had extremely high approval ratings. It was probably harder for the secret service to stay focused and for everyone to take threats seriously when that was the case.
This isn’t a Hollywood movie where a billionaire can go on the dark web and hire The Jackal or something. If they were to try to place a hit, most of The Jackals out there are probably feds posing as hitmen.
But, let’s say somehow a billionaire could find people willing to make the attempt. Trying to assassinate the US president is a suicide mission. If someone tries to do it as a lone gunman, they’re going up against the entire secret service. They may get the attack in, but they’re almost certainly not going to get away. If it’s a group of attackers, the more people, the more communications, the more communications, the more opportunities for the NSA to spot them.
And, this is one time we don’t have to worry about nation-states attacking the president. The US is punching itself in the dick over and over right now. If you’re someone who wants the US to fail, you just have to stand by and watch. In fact, if an enemy’s surveillance of the US turned up a plan to kill Trump, they’d probably warn the secret service to make sure Trump stays in power as long as possible.
He is certainly one of the most likely to die in office. Just on a purely actuarial basis, I should think.
Praying every day to gods I don’t even believe in.
He is messing with rich peoples money now so I’d say that’s pretty risky.
Nah he chokes on KFC
It’s a question that can’t really be answered until it can be answered
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Statistically, he’ll die of poor health in the next four years. He’s very unhealthy, and very old. Medicine can only do so much.
cdnwaffleiron@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
One can only hope…
starlinguk@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If he’s got dementia, he’ll probably die within 10 years of his first symptoms, and that’s been a while. It’ll still be too long, obviously.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Keep sending him burgers and fries
Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 year ago
We thought that when he got covid though.
Some people are kept alive through sheer meanness.
Matticus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
And in that case, access to treatment not available to the general public yet.
Red_October@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s said that the good die young. That orange shitstick might be nearly immortal.
selson@lemm.ee 1 year ago
It’s the mean granny rule.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 year ago
My hypothesis: narcissistic people live longer, because they apply the placebo effect at all times to themselves.