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Having a baby? Use this one weird trick!

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Submitted ⁨⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Genius@lemmy.zip⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • kerrigan778@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Uh, very few countries have birthright only citizenship.

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  • whome@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Is birth citizenship that common? Won’t work here in Germany for example…

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    • Dozzi92@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Literally zero European countries do it. It seems to be in the Americas only, and Chad and Tanzania. The concept that this is some human right apparently only applies to he US.

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    • LorIps@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      None in Europe

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  • Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Well your kid won’t get citizenship, but you’ll be able to afford to birth them.

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  • Kualdir@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This only works if you go to the green countries: Image

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s pretty telling about how much Americans know about other countries that the assumption is that Jus Soli is the norm.

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    • coldsideofyourpillow@lemmy.cafe ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What if I go to the gray countries? Do I despawn?

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      • BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You can’t go there until the next expansion.

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      • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They have deathright citizenship. You automatically become a citizen if you die in their territory.

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      • neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Green: unlimited birthright citizenship Red: Limited birthright Citizenship Gray: (At least from my own country, Switzerland): No birthright citizenship

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      • Kualdir@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Either no data or they do not have birthright citizenship

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    • rustyfish@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Chad it is then.

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      • Kualdir@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        What a chad move

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    • Lumiluz@slrpnk.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Chile would be good. It has a fairly strong passport, which I believe is stronger than the USA one in 2025 (before Trump), since it can still travel to the EU visa free.

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    • alxmg@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You got a very loose concept of “nazi”

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      • Kualdir@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You are aware I’m talking about birthright citizenship here yes?

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    • spicytuna62@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I told my wife we’re going on an extended vacation in Kenya. She sounds stoked.

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    • cmbabul@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I need to tell my brother to vacation in Uruguay this winter

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      • expatriado@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        among latam countries, probably the best one to move to now

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    • tonytins@pawb.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Onward to Canada!

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      • WarlockoftheWoods@lemy.lol ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You know they hate you right?

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    • taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Might I suggest a second good reason for South American countries— when nuclear war hits the US, and it will, the southern hemisphere has a shot of surviving a nuclear winter. Billions will die but mostly in the northern hemisphere, even after accounting for fallout spread.

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      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        What a ray of sunshine

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    • Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      México is on it’s way to fascism so… Might want to check somewhere else

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      • AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Didn’t they just elect a fairly liberal president?

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  • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Doesn’t work in most countries. Being stateless isn’t very fun.

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    • Geodad@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      US citizenship comes from the mother, if born abroad. The baby would automatically be a US citizen, possibly have dual citizenship.

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      • Takumidesh@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Most countries don’t have birthright citizenship.

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      • LyD@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The mother or the father, and it depends on circumstances. The rules are more strict when the father is the US citizen.

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  • ryedaft@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Haha, that’s not how it works outside the US.

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    • HasturInYellow@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      *for the most part.

      Some places it does.

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      • ChilledPeppers@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Come to Brazil!

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    • Revan343@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      TIL the rest of the Americas don’t exist

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    • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      As much as people are criticizing the proposed changes to this concept in the US, yes, this is true. In many countries that are arguably more free and democratic than the US even, this is not the way citizenship works and the post comes off as uninformed.

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    • jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And weren’t they talking about getting rid of “birth right” citizenship in the US? So that might not even be how it works in the US anymore.

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      • 4am@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They can’t without a constitutional amendment. They might still try to argue that the current constitution says something it doesn’t; they might just extrajudicially say “fuck you” to it.

        But the only ones talking about it are assholes and - to be clear - not a majority of Americans.

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  • Corigan@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Also airlines won’t let a pregnant woman travel at that point

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    • 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Is that true? Sounds kind of discriminatory.

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      • mEEGal@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        sounds more like they don’t need a medical emergency mid flight aka 10km above the ocean

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    • kiagam@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If a doctor clears you, they can’t deny it.

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      • Dozzi92@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Sure they can. “My doctor said I can!” Well, they say you can’t. Why would a doctor’s note get you on an airplane?

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  • Juice@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Hah! Good luck finding one

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    • kiagam@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

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      • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Which is really only used in the americas. Europe/Asia doesn’t use it, except in specific circumstances where the child wouldn’t be eligible for citizenship elsewhere.

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  • lorthirk@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Not in Italy

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  • AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Don’t choose Germany, though, we (and a lot of nations, actually) still for some reason have citizenship-by-blood/heritage laws more or less straight out of the 19th century, not citizenship-by-birthplace laws.

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    • BurnoutDV@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      As a German myself I would like to here some arguments why citizen by the place you happen to be at birth is better?

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      • AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Basically: Resident enfranchisement. It’s weird, when people born in our country and having lived here their whole life can’t vote outside of local elections. My own father, for example, had a Dutch background, and was never allowed to vote in federal elections until his death. (Neither he nor I even spoke/speak a single phrase of Dutch)

        Yes, things have gotten somewhat better and easier with applications for citizenship, but that there are hurdles like that to begin with, is a bit… weird.

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      • aleats@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Both jus soli (citizenship by birth) and jus sanguinis (citizenship by blood) exist more for historical reasons than because one is better than the other. Both are simply a way to try and make citizenship a more clear-cut thing, because it’s as close to being a made-up thing as you can get, especially in cases such as parents having a different nationality to the child (which is even more confusing when both parents are of different nationalities).

        Jus soli is more common in the Americas due to various factors, including an incentive towards immigration from richer countries during colonial times and the various movements towards emancipation of the enslaved peoples a few centuries later, but the fact remains that neither system is any more arbitrary than the other. Jus soli is often favored because it simplifies things like immigration and asylum seeking and reduces statelessness, which is still a significant issue that affects millions of people worldwide, mostly around war-torn areas.

        As mentioned in another response, enfranchisement is also a very important issue that jus soli resolves, although a significant part of it is also due to other, unrelated citizenship laws that may not necessarily conflict with jus sanguinis.

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      • LesserAbe@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Why would citizenship be based on who your parents are?

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      • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Citizenship by blood can be discriminating to children of immigrants. Say, you’re born in USA and spent all your life in there, would be spit on the face not considering you as a citizen

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    • jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No European country has unrestricted jus soli for nationality. Ireland was the last one to restrict nationality by-soil to children of long term legal residents, which is the same as Germany.

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    • grue@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I wish. My ancestors moved to the US from Germany in the 19th or early 20th century, but I’m pretty sure I’m not eligible for German citizenship.

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      • sexy_peach@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Why would you be?

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  • st33lb0ne@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Here`s the fun part… you dont need an anker baby to come live in the EU. I think alot of countries here would welcome Americans who had enough of Trump

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  • Bruncvik@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ireland: Proof of residency for 3 out of the last 4 years before the child gets an Irish passport. It’s enough to present utility bills or paychecks for that period. I did it, and my kids only have Irish passports (even though they’d be entitled to both) until they are old enough to make their own decision in this matter. Or Trump decides to expand his golf course to the entire island.

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  • Raiderkev@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Goon holidays are the best kind of holiday

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  • sirico@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Best we can do is free health care

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